Player ratings v Glory

Through a sea of disappointment, this is what I think.... Feel free to disagree!

Mossy - 7 Had a good game, made one terrific save
Manny - 6 Reliable and a couple of good forays forward
Dura - 6 Covered his defence well
Siggy - 5.5 Good headers, not his fault Lia's pass was inaccurate
Doyle - 5 Mostly did well, but one mistake, then stood off to allow that cross
Riera - 7 Consistent, calm
Rodriguez - 4.5 Little impact, just knocked passes around
Roli - 5.5 A couple of terrible early touches that almost gave away a goal, Was being constantly told to close his man down in the first half. Did make some useful contributions in second half.
Wee Mac - 6.5 Some great passes but also got isolated on the wing too easily. Scored!
Burns - 6.5 Some great turns and opened up gaps. Couldn't finish the one-on-one. Stein prob would have.
Brocks - 4.5 Little impact
Louis - 5 A few useful touches
Lia - 4 I wasn't sorry to see him come on, but that pass just cost us.

Bring back Kenny!

Think Riera man of the match for me....brockie missing action....again

Not sure I agree witha couple of those ^

Siggy was worth a 5 at best - he should have been aware who the mjidfielder was and been ready for a slightly off pass.

Dura I'd drop by .5 as well, he lost his man when the cross for their forst goal came in - ended up on the floor and they scored.

Brocks, A Rod, anhd Roli need to step up next week! Cunningham will hopeully take Lians spot on the bench - my heart dropped when he came on.

Mossy - 7 I think that should be 8. Some cracking saves.

Siggy - 5.5 I think this should be a 5. He is a pro footballer and that pass was not a mile away from him and should have been running onto it. Blinkered in that criticism of Lia.
Doyle - 5 I think this should be a 6. He was no better or worse that Durante
Roli - 5.5 I think this should be a 6

Burns was a 7.5.

He crossed the ball the WeeMac scored off, and he was the one that looked most likely to score. He could have had a couple. Yes, he didn't put them in the net, but getting into those positions is a BIG part of the puzzle. He played really really well.

Agree with Jeff that Mossy was a 7.

Lia's pass was a little forward of Siggy but there was no danger. if Siggy had allowed it to run across him he would of got to the ball first or the RB Fenton would have simply picked it up as he was in line with the pass and well inside from the touch line.

But instead Siggy tried to hit the midfield and reached for the pass, despite not being there.

Poor decision making, Lia's pass wasn't great, but it was Siggy who completely ballsed it up.

Rodi was awol, Boni's touch was poor and Brockie when he did get into good positions let himself down with his touch.

One of the main things drilled into you in junior football is to never pass the ball across your own goal in defence. Because look what can happen - if it gets mis-controlled or intercepted the striker goes one on one with the keeper. Even if it wasn't the worst pass in the world, it was brainless.

In front of goal? It was on the edge of the centre circle............

In fact Lia was 6 yards short of half way and Sigmund was a yard short of the centre circle.

It was still  a horizontal pass across the last line of defence wasn't it? Look at the result if you don't agree it was a bad idea.

Edit: Actually, fair enough. My only view was at the game and I didn't really see the replay. Just watched the replay again and it wasn't as bad as I'd remembered.

But then your position is that every horizontal pass across the last line of defence is a bad idea. The reality is, yes, in front of goal, I agree. We are talking the middle of the field here and it was not a bad idea. It was poor execution from the guy receiving and normally, that would not happen on that kind of pass.

Yeah fair enough, I edited the post above. I hadn't actually seen the replay and had thought it was worse from my view at the game. Still wasn't the best idea with 2 strikers close by and even if he controls it he has an opponent on top of him immediately (in fact I'm sure taking one eye off the ball and watching the approaching Perth player is the reason he didn't control the ball) but it was further from goal than I had thought.

Probably shows me the importance of re-watching at home because you can see and remember things differently from the stands!

The pass wasnt perfect, Siggie was on his heels and was very very slow to turn.. Durante didnt have the pace to sweep behind and a great finish.. 

Shit happens.. 

They are proffesional footballers. They arent 10 year olds who cant control a pass.

They are 30+ year olds that cant make an accurate pass or control one.

Lia's passing has been shit ever since our very first season.

Not looking to getting into any long protracted discussion on the merits of vince lia but my own honest opinion is that you are wrong with that statement

nufc has been shit since vince lias first season

The header on goal at the corner had to clear the bar by 10 feet. I had wished Siggy had stayed back and got that one. At least it would have been more threatening to the Perth goal than the fans in row NN.

Dude, this is not junior football - that's OK to tell kiddies, but to limit passing options like that in professional football is just suicidal.

Two things with the pass - I'm no fan of Lia, but he did the right thing. We were moving forward as a team, and the pass was inviting Siggy to pick the ball up and drive us forward. Problem number 1 was that Siggy was on his honches and not moving forward, which made the pass further in front of him and Lia had wanted it to be. Problem 2 was that even with that, the ball was still, at most, a step away from Siggy under no immediate pressure. And I'm sorry, but if you can't control that ball, you shouldn't get paid to play football. That goal was Siggy's 100%.

People are scapegoating Lia for this when it was in no way his fault. If you look at the replay, Fenton takes off. Why? Cause of forward momentum and the way the Phoenix were heading. Fenton was not worried about the 'attacking threat'. That should have been within Sigmunds capability quite easily and echo your sentiment.

So fuckin funny. What are you, 12?

Funny, but I thought that Fenton was the obvious outlet pass for Lia, safer and the much more attacking option.

Trouble is I think Sig was thinking that too. 

It's always Lia's fault.

siggu should have been looking for the ball - it's somehting every footballer should be doing. Even if the smarter pass was to Fenton, siggy should have been ready - just in case. Fact is he wasn't, fact is Lia passed it to him. Lia took the wrong option, but siggy shouold have been there to collect the ball and send it forward.

Hmm, not convinced Fenton was the smarter pass - he hadn't moved far enough yet to be a good option, you're better off centralising play to allow him time to move further forward and get him the ball in a more advanced (dangerous) position. And if he gets covered, you still have options (going to the other side, or playing it forward/back).

If you give the ball to Fenton too early and he still wasn't in an advanced enough position, he gets shut down, and his options are more limited, allow them to squeeze the available options and potentially cause a mistake (not that we need pressure from opposition to make mistakes, mind you). So yeah, Lia chose absolutely the right option - Jesus I never thought I'd be typing those words out!

I'd still see that differently.  But I am going from memory.  Fenton was over half and had space in front of him.  It would have made for a fast transition with our front three ahead of him and Rolly/Rodriguez moving forward with him. 

Enough of the dithering around at the back and passing to their striker. 

It's a wonderful ol' world.  So many viewpoints.

Krishna if he was going to play, should have been brought on as soon as we had equalised to help force home the points. Where's Tyler? Hopefully he will get a start.

Lia has played about 100 games. Ridenton about 10, Rufer 1. I know who I would be picking

Maybe Merrick's hoping to chuck on Krishna at the end of games on the chance he gets injured and we can sign Ifill.. jokes.

Makes very little sense chucking a striker on in the 90th minute. What's he going to do? Got to give him 15-20 minutes surely.

What's he going to do? hopefully score a goal in the 91st :d

How often does that happen? He might not even get to touch the ball in the 2 or 3 minutes injury time he gets. Got to give him some time to get into the game.

I guess my point is around match fitness not experience...