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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
radioman wrote:
siggy has nothing going forward, he killed leo in the 1st home game (v queensland) by not getting forward and leaving leo 1 on 2. as well as the fact he is a center back, i doubt his delivery will be much better than mullies


He's the best defender of the lot (Siggy, Mulligan, Plodder, Muscat), and none of them are particularly good going forward. So Siggy in.
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He HAS to make changes now, most of the side have had 5 games to make an impact and very few have done so. I like it when guys like Siggy get on because he looks keen and enthusiastic whereas some of the regulars look anything but.

"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington

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Sigmund Needs to replace Mulligan and someone needs to be upfront with Semltz. if this doesn't happen Smeltz will struggle to score. and if Mulligan stays in the back four we will continuously lose the ball. and how come he hasn't taken a free kick isn't that one of the things he's meant to be good at?
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Should we not be looking at the midfield, especially the centre of the park.

What options do we have, Johnson and Ferrante are not doing the tango at the moment. The only option I see is Tim Bond, is he any better than what we have.
 
Basically we have a better team performing badly, not much we as supporters can do apart from provide undying love and affection.
 
 
 
 
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tim Bond? Who's this guy, a young prodigy? Why haven't I heard of him before?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hmm is he any relation to James Bond or is it just a coincidence.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Are these out of 55 or 10
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
55 (except for moss) and Mulligans was out of 100
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Are these out of 55 or 10


Moss was out of 10 - Durante at least showed some pride in the jersey and tried to make a difference.

Mulligan out of 1000 - everyone f**king rubbish

If my dog played that badly, I'd f**king shoot it
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chuckywolf wrote:

Both our full backs were the worst players players on the park again. Locheads distribution is absolutely shocking. As for Mulligan, its already been said here.

Nailed it on the head there... I honestly think Hearfield (granted not his natural position)/Muscat could do a better job than Mulligan... at least they would have the pace to do some overlapping runs and create something... once the ball gets played to Mulligan he doesn't look like doing anything other than going long...
 
someone else touched on it but RH has been utterly unimpressive recently.. i just can't fathom what goes into his decisions as to when to make subs.... he should have seen the momentum going perth's way at the 60 min mark and that they were going straight up the middle..surely Brown should have come on then.. funny as RH always sounds so assured off the park...
 
 
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tablemanners wrote:
chuckywolf wrote:

Both our full backs were the worst players players on the park again. Locheads distribution is absolutely shocking. As for Mulligan, its already been said here.



Nailed it on the head there... I honestly think Hearfield (granted not his natural position)/Muscat could do a better job than Mulligan... at least they would have the pace to do some overlapping runs and create something... once the ball gets played to Mulligan he doesn't look like doing anything other than going long...


someone else touched on it but RH has been utterly unimpressive recently.. i just can't fathom what goes into his decisions as to when to make subs.... he should have seen the momentum going perth's way at the 60 min mark and that they were going straight up the middle..surely Brown should have come on then.. funny as RH always sounds so assured off the park...




Watching RH sit on the bench he looks like he is engrossed in the game but its passing him by. Just once I'd love to see him jump off the bench and have a bit of a rant. The perfect opportunity was when Mulligan lost his rag at Durante when Durante dared pass the ball to him with an opposition player within 12 yards. Mulligan should have been bollocked his contributions only give him the right to a seat in the stand.

Maybe a bit harsh on Mulligan surely Durante has figured out that Mulligan has a six yard first touch so if the opposition are 12 yards away its a hospital pass to him.
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Mulligan surely won't play against Sydney. Although his substitution five minutes from the end was one of the most ludicrous I've seen in a long time it did look a tad humiliating for the guy, almost like Ricki finally lost his patience and kicked him off.

I think we've seen enough to know that there are simply too many problems with his game for him to be considered a long term solution for that RB spot.
 
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Mossy - A bit of distribution work could do him good, but it hardly needs to be said that he is f**kin legendary
 
Was a bit dissapointd by the way McKain hauled down Dadi but other than that he is a classy defneder and I think that sunday night showed us that him and Dura are capable of some pretty solid central defending.
 
Mulligan has not bad any constuctive passes that I can recollect which is disspointing, as for Lochhead, I felt he seems to have finnaly gotten over his Boro trial as he was much more confident and got forward a lot, correct me if i'm wrong but I think it was him who executed that fantastic sliding pull-back that Hearfield f**ked up.
 
Johnson should not start, Brown and Ferrante in the middle as I'm sick of Richards poor passing and innability to get in the oppositions face.
 
Gao drifted in and out far to much but when he got the ball he had no support from Lochhead or his fellow midfielders. I also hope the only reason he shaved his head was because he felt sorry for cancerous children coz it looks bad.
 
Hearfield and Daniel were average, but both seemed commited and trying to get involved for the full 90 minutes. Can't wait to see Bertos back in the fold though.
 
It was another case of Smeltz not getting enough service to be noted, and when he did try to create something he was completely shut down by two, even three Perth boys, they knew what to do to stop us from scoring.
You know we belong together...

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el grapadura wrote:
Tim Bond? Who's this guy, a young prodigy? Why haven't I heard of him before?
 
He is a close cousin of Shane Bond, fragile as an egg... Always on ACC..
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Oska wrote:
Was a bit dissapointd by the way McKain hauled down Dadi but other than that he is a classy defneder and I think that sunday night showed us that him and Dura are capable of some pretty solid central defending.
 
 
 
Agree totally. But the problem is that one mistake from McKain cost a point. Id forgive him the original error to give the ball away as that was unlucky, but he had no reason to bring Dadi down.
 
At the end of the day Im not so concerned about the defending. Mulligan is certainly dodgy and cant go forwards, but in time I can see the back four imrproving. 
 
The real problem is that there is really NO quality football going forwards. None at all.
We dont have enough ball winners or enough aerial ability.
 
It aint that hard to pick out a forward player with a 40 yard ball, Beckham showed how easy it was when he was here.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ironic that the headline from the 15th on the official Nix site states "Confidence On The Rise". Oh dear.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Anyone else think that McKain looks a little overweight and unco? Maybe he just wears a big shirt or something.

a.haak

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
radioman wrote:
also I thought it was the worst I had seen the nix play!
 
have we got a case for both muscat and christie to both get a start this week at left and right back?


The Adelaide game was the worst i've seen us play

[edit] sorry for double post
valeo2008-09-23 14:43:02

a.haak

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valeo wrote:
Anyone else think that McKain looks a little overweight and unco? Maybe he just wears a big shirt or something.
 
Yep, unco alright.
I found him a sad sort of funny, maybe he's there to make all the other dumbass unco players on the field look good. He's probably quite popular with the team. 
I'd be keeping him as far away from our goal as possible.
Left right out maybe, but then that goes for most of them, inc the coach.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
A couple of days late, but here was my take.

Moss - solid again, some good saves to keep us in it. Like Ballane and others I question his distribution, and perhaps his communication? The past Durante put pass Mulligan would have been better directed to Moss, had he called for it.

Mulligan - In all sorts of trouble against Sekulovski(?) in the 2nd half, should have been changed earlier. Would Sigmund have done better? Don't know, but Ricki had to try something. Too many long balls.

Durante and McKain - showed the foundations of the partnership we hoped they would form at the begiining of the season. Not perfect, but solid, and should improve.

Lochhead - Linked well with Daniel at times, defended well, crossed poorly.

Gao - didn't do much right or wrong. Possibly because he was under Mulligan's long balls? A number of you have been calling for him and Daniel to start together. We need more than one game to see if it works.

Ferrante - good distribution, especially in first half

Johnson - Solid but unspectacular first half, poor second with too many passes going astray. Anopther who should have come off earlier.

Daniel - worked hard, got more ball than Gao, didn't do much wrong, nor create a lot with it. Like Gao, can fall over too easily running past players.

Hearfield - Not a striker, but worked/ran hard.

Smeltz - not much to work with, but as commentators said, seemed a little out of sorts as well.

Ricki - As others have pointed out, use of subs wasn't the best. I've made the point elsewhere that he is hamstrung to an extent by only being able to name 3 outfield subs, but this applies to all teams. Agree with Martinb (and others) that our subs were too little, too late. We were under the cosh for at least 10 minutes before the penalty, and nothing was changed.

wolfman2008-09-23 16:13:53


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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I started watching the MySky recording, given I missed the game on Sunday, but just couldn't do it.

In the 30 mins or so I saw Mulligan was absolutely woeful again, always caught out of position and too slow to track back. Johnson's distribution was terrible also. Those were the only performances (or lack thereof) that stood out to me.

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Arsenal wrote:
I started watching the MySky recording, given I missed the game on Sunday, but just couldn't do it.

In the 30 mins or so I saw Mulligan was absolutely woeful again, always caught out of position and too slow to track back. Johnson's distribution was terrible also. Those were the only performances (or lack thereof) that stood out to me.


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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You love it Surge. 

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
auskiwi wrote:
valeo wrote:
Anyone else think that McKain looks a little overweight and unco? Maybe he just wears a big shirt or something.


Yep, unco alright.

I found him a sad sort of funny, maybe he's there to make all the other dumbass unco players on the field look good. He's probably quite popular with the team.

I'd be keeping him as far away from our goal as possible.

Left right out maybe, but then that goes for most of them, inc the coach.

Did you see when he stopped that ball from going in off a header from Robinson's cross. If he keeps defending like that i want him to be one of the closest to the goal!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mulligan is complete crap. I'd prefer Cleberson.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I felt sorry for Moss. He made some brillant saves and lost his clean sheet to a penalty. Perth looked so much better going forward and probably should have won 3-0. Durante/Mc Kain did well to keep them out as did Moss. Need Coveny up front with Smeltzy, he is big and is good in the air and quick. I think Sigmund and Christie should be given more chance.
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smeltzfan1 wrote:
I felt sorry for Moss. He made some brillant saves and lost his clean sheet to a penalty. Perth looked so much better going forward and probably should have won 3-0. Durante/Mc Kain did well to keep them out as did Moss. Need Coveny up front with Smeltzy, he is big and is good in the air and quick. I think Sigmund and Christie should be given more chance.


Sorry just do not see Smeltz and Coveny as a striking partnership. Against CCM there was plenty of sweat but bugger all threat, and do not have great memories of this pair demonising defences.
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smeltzfan1 wrote:
Need Coveny up front with Smeltzy, he is big and is good in the air and quick. I think Sigmund and Christie should be given more chance.
 
I dont think he is, you watch how many balls go forward that he either doesnt compete for or doesnt look like winning.
 
He seems quick still, but just doesnt seem to be able to get on the end of anything, or isnt good enough to hold it up for long enough.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The midfield is doing my head in bigtime. Johnson was an absolute shambles on Sunday and couldn't pass to save himself. Ive never been a fan of Ferrante he can try as hard as he likes but he doesn't offer a lot quite frankly. Ricki needs to change the centre midfield and I think Gao would be good there, he has good pace and isn't afraid to let one rip. Who would play alongside him? Hmmmm im honestly struggling to pick someone. Tim Brown is just a chopper and would probably get sent off after 60mins. maybe Daniel so he can get more of the ball but he's rather lazy.

Oh god Sydney are going to be a problem on Sunday.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Still i think its better having 2 strikers up front. Having 1 is always difficult.
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smeltzfan1 wrote:
Still i think its better having 2 strikers up front. Having 1 is always difficult.


Totally agree and there in lies one of the difficulties in the squad. If its not Coveny then who plays upfront alongside Smeltz

Kwasnik - hasn't looked the goods to date.
Draper - green but has looked capable at every level I've seen him play.
Costa - green but does offer a bit of pace.

After them you're into playing attacking midfielders up front and maybe Daniel alongside is not ridiculous as he can hold the ball up and could be the provider to Smeltz. Do not like thought of Hearfield or Gao at all.

No easy answers to this one?
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