player ratings v Raw

player ratings v Raw

well, well, well, the Phoenix are a team that plays on the break. Great result boys.

Would bump down Leo half a point. Still looks out of touch to me. Maybe i'm being critical.

Otherwise fair. Great result

Agree for the most part - I'd bump Greeny up and drop Ward a point.

Warner 6
Manny 7
Siggy 8
Dura 8
Griffiths 6
Leo 6
Brownie 5
Vinnie 4
Ifill 8
Wardy 7
Greenie 6

Lia the worst on the park by a long shot - looked laboured with everything he did
Ifill not at his best but still the most influential player in the game - even on one leg.valeo2011-12-14 22:35:11

think we're being hard on the midfield, i'd add 0.5 to ward and a full point to lia and brown

the amount of intercepts and the poor passes/touches caused by our pressure was excellent, particularly from ward and lia

Completely. Latching onto every half chance at a turnover from slightly mis/underhit passes totally disrupted their flow.

Wait, people rating Greenie a 6, for what? His 6 offsides?

For the huge amount of pressure he put on them in their half to create the chances we had.

He worked his arse off pressing them in their half and slowing them down to avoid the quick play with Paartalu in to midfield.  Worth over a 6 for me.  Played his role perfectly.

I thought 6 is a little harsh on Griffiths. I thought he did quite well. One or two dodgy moments but you have to remember this isn't his natural position and I thought his positioning was reasonably good and his defensive work solid. 7 from me.

Pressure by everyone in the team, and a tactic of leaving the Bahraini alone. Hardly a stunning effort considering the few touches he had on the ball were adding to his offside total.

Ward scored a goal and set Ifill away for the first, and yet people say he was poor.

I love that this time round we tried to beat the roar, and it worked - i feel like lots of teams gave them too much respect because of their growing record, but once Ricki put those tactics in place, we really did well.

A counter attacking based strategy at most away games would be quite sucessful you would say. ASnd it fits for our predominantly destroying midfielders, and quickish skillful wide men.

I would say 6 is about right objectively but given that it was his first game starting and that we were playing the league leaders, I would agree with you.

'Circumstantial' 7 imo

Agree in the most part. Griffiths I thought was a lot better than I had expected. He does need to work on his throw ins though. They're hilarious but awful.

Simple this week.... Every one of them 10!!! And yes I probably still am pissed

think all defenders deserved an 8

Fantastic game- we thoroughly enjoyed it. Siggy, Manny, were excellent. I agree with whoever said that Greenie snapping at the heels of the defenders put them under great pressure. I thought leo was better than a 6. He did a lot of defensive work- often having to deal with either two players himself, or having 3 come at 2 phoenix players. Got a bit solated on attack a few times, but was cool to see him get through and have a reasonable shot later in the game. Warner did pretty well, with some tidy saves, but still did not thoroughly convince me that he is dominating his area and directing his defense at all- looked to be a couple of mis-communications.

But really, 2-0 over the roar- while sober, I still agree with Sthn Jeff. Give 'em all a 10!

Unthinkable!
 I disagree with Whitby Boy!
Herbert left Ifill on for ten minutes more than he should have IMO. He started limping (OK, he usually does that...) quite a while before he was subbed. For this I couldn't go so high on Ricki, but certainly worth an 8 for the way we played and won.

I wouldn't give Herbert a 9. He may have cost us Ifill. He clearly signalled he had injured himself, and yet Ricki wouldn't sub him until (as Ricki's law dictates) it was the 85th minute.

Had he have subbed him off earlier, would he still be in doubt for the Victory match?

had he subbed ifill at the 65th minute or whenever he started limping we'd not have had goal #2, which was the nail in the coffin for the roar, 1 - 0 up was never a certain win - though he could perhaps have brought daniel of Lindsay on earlier for the mids, especially seeing theya re backing up this sunday.

Sounds a bit like a prediction to me

Younger, faster but with a brain (unlike  Pav)

Seems pretty good to me.  I might pop Griffiths up a notch because I thought he looked really solid by the end of the match.  His throws weren't great but there didn't seem to be too much effort by too many of his team-mates to get into a position to receive them.

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/aleague/matchcentre/Wellington-Phoenix-FC-v-Brisbane-Roar-FC-Hyundai-A-League/2138
6 Offsides? or 1? You clearly don't have any kind of prejudice against Greenie... I didn't think his offside was offside btw. (if it's the offside I was thinking off, the team did have a lot, but we were playing counterattacking without any fast players so you would expect a few)
Back 4 were all great, Dura was possibly the least exceptional but that's probably just due to his baseline performances. Griffiths throws were terrible though, really bizarre how bad they were
Bertos was alright, never really looked like turning the game on its head though.
Would say Brown was the worst for us, but wasn't terrible. Put that Beautiful ball down the wing for Ifill, seems more willing to try things like that if Ifill or someone else tricky is on the end of it.
Would love to see either Sanchez or Smith take his place for at least one game. Even If Brown was put up front to give Greenie a rest, or fill in for Ifill if you hate Pav.

surely his coaching of PAv has to be helping?