Player ratings v Tards

Player ratings v Tards

A very good effort, hence some good ratings

For the time Pavlova was on, I'd increase his rating - he created more in 15 min than Greenacre created the whole game.

Yep it is hard to see how Greenie could possibly be rated higher than Pav?

My ratings:
Dura: 7.0 + North 7.5- looked pretty solid. I liked the triangle they made with Manny at DM, very hard to break down. Dura possibly giving away more ball than usual.

Siggy 5.5 - was a bit shaky for a 20min period in the first stanza and earned himself a silly yellow, but pretty solid in the second . Read the game well and got himself into a good position more often than not.

Lochy: 5.0 - Made a few good tackles but displayed some exceptionally poor decision making that we were lucky not to get punished from. Nervous on the ball as usual. Perfect example in the first half, takes the ball down neatly, under very little pressure, and managed to fluff an 8 yard pass straight into the path of Celeski, where we were lucky not to concede. Got caught in possession again badly in 2nd half under bugger all pressure and got himself tackled by duganzic. Luckily he was alone. Easiest way to put it is that I have to clench my anus any time he has to make a decision.

Brown: 5.5- wasn't up to much, had a decent snap shot in 2nd half, occupied a couple of their midfielders, freeing up a bit of space for Ward, but still didn't do enough with the ball for a CM. Also felt he went to ground far too often when tackling, needs to stay on his feet more often.

Nick Ward: 7.5- looked the business again. Made space for himself from nothing. There was a nice run in the 1st half, he was closely marked by 2 victory players, and managed to turn both of them before charging towards goal and had his shot blocked. Was our biggest threat going forward. Shaky backpass almost cost us dearly though.

Manny Muscat: 8.5 Superb. Didn't miss a beat all game. Calm on the ball, got some great touches in, skipped past players and distributed very well. Was one of the only ones in the defence keen to go forward without hoofing it up the pitch ala Lochy and Siggy.

Ifill: 6.0 - had a fairly average game to be honest. Wasn't his usual self. 1st half was very poor by his standards. Couldn't hit a good cross to save his life with the exception of the greenie set-up, and always tried to beat 1 more man than he had to. Looked a lot more promising in the 2nd half. Not sure if Ricki is 'imprisoning' him on the left wing and taking away his free role now that Ward is bolstering the midfield.

Bertos: 6.5 - Better than he's been lately. Made some good runs early on and was keen to get at the victory full backs. But got pegged back a little when Suhka was doing Siggy for pace.

Greenacre: 5.5 Ran a lot again, but had bugger all to show for it. Received a good cross from Ifill which he should've buried, but choked and stuggled to get ball in any dangerous positions.

Vukovic: 7.0 To be honest, didn't have a hell of a lot to do, but when needed, he reacted quickly and confidently. Good reflex save to deny Ricardinho. Don't know if he knew a lot about the Hernandez one, but good positioning nonetheless

Pav hard to rate for such a short time, but looked very dangerous. I like having that injection of pace up front, and thought Ricki should've given him more time.

Daniel wasn't on long enough for me to form an opinion.

Cue the bollocking about the Brown rating...
conorphelan2010-09-16 00:07:42

the two don't compare, they're different types of players.

so your comment is invalid. Terminated bitch.

I lol'd

Yeah, one is sh*t, one isn't

Vuka 8 three important saves
Siggy 5 caught out few times no better than Hearfield at RB
Dura 8 solid and calm
North 7 great start beaten once where shot hit into Vuka
Lochead 6.5 think he is getting back to best
Brown 8 lot of great work and more involved than has been
Ward 6.5 Marked down as that backpass could have spoilt a lot of hard work
Muscat 7 put in a solid effort and even got forward
Ifill 6.5 improving each week and not far away now
Bertos 6.0 worked hard but did not add much
Greenacre 6.5 another good game shame he fluffed that chance
Pav 6.0 did well to create chance

All Greenacre can do is run and run and run. He can't shoot or dribble.

but the one who you think is is not and the one who you think is not is so really I won't be reading anymore of your comments on this matter tbf tbh rofl copter. peace.

again. He is a player who feeds off others. There are different types of strikers you know ? if we play to his strengths he will score more but at the moment our type of play is more suited to the likes of Pav.

your comment has no structure, just plain old talk but no walk, you get my drift ?

It is my own opinion if you don't like it then piss off.  You can see by the way the Nix play it suits more of how pav plays. I never said they weren't different types of strikers.

You get my drift?

locheads passing and crossing has turned  to sh*t hasn't it.

Your statement seems to imply that his passing and crossing has been a redeemable feature of his game since his failed trial at Middlesbrough a couple of years ago. Arsenal2010-09-16 00:26:42

I get your drift homes, I just don't think you know what your on about.

all i'm doing is correcting you on your opinion because in my opinion you are wrong.

it's a forum mate and I would appreciate it dear sir, if you no longer tell me to and i quote "piss off"

back to the topic in hand.

post of the day

tbf, Middlesbrough realized Lochhead just made all the other players in the team look sh*t, because Lolhead is God.

Vukovic - 7 - Wasn't asked to do much but what he did he did well.
Lochhead - 6 - Spotted one fail, played himself into a group of opposition players a few times but was satisfied.
Durante - 7.5 - Great to watch with North.  Solid CB pairing.
North - 7.5 - Great to watch with Durante.  Solid CB pairing.
Ward - 6.5 - Did well, so disappointing he hit the post, missing scoring by a few inches.  Faded somewhat.
Brown - 6.5 - Fairly strong.
Muscat - 7.5 - Strong in the centre, breaking up attacks and getting the ball forward.
Sigmund - 7 - Very solid at RB considering where he usually plays.  Had a few good runs.  Did a nice cross after the initial howler.  MOM for me, all things considered.
Ifill - 6 - Fairly good, been better than earlier this season.
Bertos - 6.5 - Good runs but couldn't make it happen.
Greenacre - 6 - Worked hard but looked alone.
Pavlovic - 6.5 - Had little time to prove anything but in that time made the great run past Vargas and was unlucky to hit wide.
Daniel - 4 - Had very little time in which he did some poor freekicks.

By the way Whoooooooo, I think it's pretty poor form for someone who has complained many times about people ganging up on him to turn on another and ridicule pretty much whatever they're saying, rudely at times, in an arrogant manner.  Just saying.
loyalgunner2010-09-16 01:47:44

The tween angsty crowd here are getting really bloody boring.  I wonder how many other people they're driving away.

The angst isn't as annoying as the Internet Tough Guy routine.

wooo has no idea, don't worry about it.  he has some love affair with greenacre.  i thought greenacre didn't play too bad last night, but agree that apart from running round, and a couple of passes that you would expect from a professional he hasn't got much of a game. he definitely can't create anything or beat players.  he seems to just get an automatic pass of awesomeness from some ppl here and i don't get it. 

lochhead, can we please get someone to challenge for left back position. don't rate at all.

ward was the goods, created space on a dime and passes to feet
ifill  was average
north looked real good
siggy was ok
bertos was not bad but needs to stop passing behind him 90% of the time, and start moving forward and looking for ppls feet and running into space

why hasnt whoooo been kicked off for this bullsh*t?

I swear all his posts are for LOLs and to stir the pot.

You mean how many people whooooo has driven away.

Don't get to worked up about it. Just ignore what he says. It is all crap anyway.

cheers guys.

I like Greenacres control and touches. Hard to play him alone up front though, because he does so much back to goal work there is really no arrowhead to our attack. I wouldn't mind seeing him play with Pavlovic, but if we are playing 4-5-1 like we are then I think Greenie should be on the bench. Only just though, I think he is doing a bloody good job for a little man all alone up front.

I thought Brownie was better value for me last night than usual. Ward provides the show and Brownie the bobsleds. I think Lochy can be a bit one dimensional with his line balls and can put a man under pressure or not even find a man. Needs to look at checking back more.

im sorry for coming back to this but people who slate Greenie have no concept of the role of a striker other than goals per game. Unless you are Drogba material which obv CG is not, then playing up top on ya tod is going to diminish your goal scoring record. This naive view that someone else will be banging the goals in for the nix in the same role is ludicrous. CG scored 18,19,and 14 goals for Tranmere in League 1 in 3 seasons. Smeltz scored 2 in 31 games for halifax in the conference (2 leagues below) Its about the role you play. CG sacrificies his goalscoring record for the good of the team by working very hard by himself up top and holding the ball up extremely well around the box and creating space for iffil and ward to exploit. The nix do not produce a great deal of chances for him so if he puts away one in 3 chances like good strikers do then he still doesnt end up with alot of goals to show for it. To read his goal scoring record for the nix and use it to cast doubts on his importance for the team is madness. WellingtonPFC2010-09-16 09:59:23

I am interested to see what happens when Lia gets back. I hope Manny stays in midfield and Brown gets dropped.

Also, considering we had 3 CM there were a few times when Melbourne found a lot of space between our midfield and defence.

Also, it is nice to see Nick Ward dropping deep to receive the ball but when he does it leaves only Greenacre up front and possibly our wingers to receive the ball next. I would like to see Lia in for Brown and both he and Manny sitting a bit deep rather than having just Manny sitting deep and Brown and Ward playing box-to-box and both getting too deep which slows our attack down. With Lia and Manny it should allow Ward to stay further forward and hopefully allow us to break with more speed. So basically a small shift to a 4231 rather than the 4141 we played last night.

Dont know why you would want to change a midfield combination that did a very good job. Think Brown had a solid game, won lots of ball and came close to scoring. And thats the player he is. With ward and miscat playing along side him I dont think he needs to be to creative (though it would be nice). After that preformance I think he would be unlucky to lose his spot to Lia

This 100%.  Why does everyone expect him to net a ton of goals when he's playing on his own up front, often with little or no support?  For a relatively little bloke he wins a helluva lot of the long balls pumped up to him in the air (that invariably there's no-one there to exploit), he almost never gives away possession when holding the ball up with his back to goal and almost always lays the ball off to one of our players (e.g. the layoff for Ward against Sydney and did it on a regular basis last night).

Sure, he fluffed his one-and-only chance (what does that say about the supply?) but even the best strikers screw up occasionally.  In fact, his quick reactions after stuffing up the initial chance to toe-poke the ball towards goal forced a pretty sharp save from the keeper - the sign of a good striker.  In the home game against the Gold Coast, he played alongside a big target man and notched a brace - go figure!  Greenie is a quality striker, but isn't likely to score heaps in the role he's being asked to play.  Just my opinion.

Hes never going to score or set up any when we hoof it long to him by himself, whats he supposed to do? Beat 4 defenders and slot it in the top right?

Bertos has been terrible all season. He keeps failing at beating his man and when he does he plays very poor balls into the box

We're all saying that he does a bunch of work, holds possession up etc. And I agree with that whole-heartedly, but shouldn't more of the onus be placed on Ricki for playing someone of Greenacre's style in a lone striker position? Yes he does a lot of work, but that work isn't going to turn into chances unless he's got someone working off him. Ifill got forced out too wide to form any partnership with him, and Bertos was never far enough forward to even be in the picture. For a sole striker position, you need someone quicker than Greenie imo. Give Pavlovic a start.

I'm with Old Bastard and WellingtonPFC. These Greenie knockers need to broaden their football education at tad and wise up to the fact that being a striker is not always measured by slotting goals and beating players. Greenie is a damn good pro with a touch better than most. He's got a great game that suits the majority of what the Nix do.