Player ratings v Tards

Player ratings v Tards

Arrrggghhh! This game hurts. Hard to rate because the Nix were good for so long before going under.

I thought Sanchez was fantastic out there, sure he missed a few chances, but he was also creating a lot as well.Azevo2011-10-31 10:22:46

Don't know how you give Daniel only 6, especially given that's the same mark you gave (an IMO lackluster) Leo Bertos. He had a fantastic first half. He and Lochy combine brilliantly when they are on form.

Daniel did fade into the 2nd half but his first 45 was very, very good. Almost every single pass and cross was bang on the money, plus he even tackled some. StopOut2011-10-30 23:42:52

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Warner-6, teething troubles but he started to collect, punch and distribute better than Paston (you could argue no one can punch better than Paston, but I don't think punching every single ball counts), his goal kicks were spot on once he had the wind on his side, and he's bloody massive.
Lochhead- 6, looked like a better winger than Leo, defended well, put good balls up the line, put some good crosses in. Could have crossed a touch earlier/better on occasion.
Dura-6.5, can't blame him for the pen, blame brown.
Siggy 5.5 was fantastic until the pen but just should have realized Thompson was going over (which seemed to be planned)
Niko 6 thought he was great, got beaten once all game, yeah it resulted in a goal... But I thought he was probably going to be a 4 before the game started. Probably the most pleasing aspect of the game for me was that I'm happy for him to play there to free Manny up for CDM.
Smith 6 played well I thought gave the ball away early on but more than made up for it
Daniel 6 a little slow but we know what he is. Put quality balls in.
Brown 3.5 only worse player was Kewell. Fluffed chances, gave the ball away, didn't put in the effort of the other players that I used to respect him for, and I blame him for their second.
Leo 5 hopeless, can't cross, can't shoot, can't beat a player. Tried hard but shoulda been subbed (Herbert couldn't've know Ward would be that sh*t).
Sanchez 7- turned players, beat them, didn't give the ball away, well taken and deserved goal. Shoulda scored in the first half though.
Greenie 6.5, actually started some play for us with his work rate and winning balls, can't blame him for the other half of his striking partnership being absent.
Griff- 5.5, I thought he played alright, I think he can handle CC's sh*tty strikers.
Ward- 4, was it 4 times he tried the exact same thing just outside the 18 yard box? If it was his mission brief, he still should have tried something different after the first two. If it wasn't his mission brief then he's a glory hunting S.O.B. I normally rate him in terms of chance creation but how does Herbert not get that he consistently gives the ball away in stupid situations. Chuck him on the wing, he's gonna be better than Leo.
Overall, if Brown can't score we're f'd ATM. Can't see why Smith was subbed instead of Brown, I had more faith in him to score in that game.

Btw I was at the game so could be wrong about everything by the time I see the game on TV.
And is it in Kewells contract that he can't get carded?

i sence alot of hate for paston on this forum... y? i think he looks lots better than warner

so what he punches the ball a little to often, he looks much more composed and has lots of great saves

Generally agree, with the ratings. Biggest disappointment on the park for me yesterday was Leo. After a couple of promising starts, looks like we got last years Leo back again. Apart from one good cross for Greenie, Looked decidedly average again.

Paston would have saved that goal

Bullsh*t he would've, it was tucked into the bottom corner, most keepers would've struggle to save that.

Generally agree.  Tim Brown down to a 5 at most though, I thought he played well in the first half - but was back to his disinterested worst in the second.  He loses the ball in the worst positions doesn't he?  I would also put Dani Sanchez up a point, he missed some easy chances but

agree with most here, though Griffiths did ok - he has some big shoes to fill wearing #4, Leo looked off the pace in the secoand half, perhaps he burned himself out in the first....as much as I love Tim he needs to step his game up and be more aware in front of goal - he had clear chances and looked almost confused with what to do.

I think people are being a little generous with Nick. He didn't have to much to do defensively and his error lead to MV goal. Very one footed, I can't recall him using his right foot once, which made it hard for us to play out down the right hand side and passed a lot of ball back to SigmUnd and Warner (sometimes putting them under greater pressure than he was under). At present I think we have better options in midfield than we have a replacement RB allowing Manny into midfield,so for now I think Manny will be playing RB for the season.

Instead of a striker everyone is asking for, I would be asking for a RB as good as Manny.

I want both!!! Its all we need to be an easy top four team.

Well, I think that people had low expectations which he surpassed but I wouldn't want him at RB long term, even if it means Manny can move into midfield.

Good GRAVY some of us are miserable bastards! We played REALLY well. Our finishing, and our luck, were not what I'd like to see. In addition to that our discipline was poor, but alos (referring back to the luck portion of my earlier comment) some of the ref's decision to book our players were... mystifying.

With those grades you'd think we'd won 5-0.

BWTCF - they are way way too friendly, like el says if the guys all played as well as you say they did we should have walked away with the 3 points

Does that mean you don't rate Downey at all? I haven't seen him play much, but thought he was meant to be our RB this season.

Yeah, and on another day with a little bit more finishing and little bit more luck, we could have.

What you said. We SHOULD have walked away with the three points.

If the average mark was a 6 or a 6.5 like many above then go back and look at some of our poor performances last year where people were dishing out 6s and we played rubbish.

We played well. We just didn't finish.

I think in the last few games Sanchez/Smith/Daniel have shown just how much Ward does give the ball away.

At MV a year or two back they played Ward up front- perhaps Ward could be played at striker??martinb2011-10-31 13:26:13

Griffiths = Target Man

Pointless observation really - on a different day we could have lost that same game 3-0, with a bit less luck and without a bad officiating call on Victory offside goal. It's football.

I mean, I know we played well for most part (but particularly in the first half hour or so), huffed and puffed a bit in the second, but in the end we lost and clearly not everything went they way it was supposed to. So to give half the team 8s or more in a game like this just seems a bit silly to me.

I do actually rate Paston over Warner and was baffled by the decision not to give him his gloves back (metaphorically speaking).
I'm just trying to see the positives of the situation, like he's not Crowther.

TBF I can only recall Downey playing at Perth, didn't watch too many NQF games and don't remember his performances there. It is hard to judge how he will fit into our team if I have nothing to base it on. I didn't see any of the pre-season games and the only run he has had this season was as a winger at the end of the GCU game where Ricki could have put Downey at RB and moved Manny into midfield and put Ward on the wing. So based on what I have seen and the options we have in midfield, Manny is probably best for us at RB. It is a shame that Hingert is happy not even making the bench at Brisbane instead of signing for us.

bwtcf2011-10-31 15:43:39

mjp22011-10-31 16:09:23

Within three hours of full-time should be fine.

Don't want you looking silly every week, do we.

Get your head out of your arse.

There's ample justification for rating based on perceived level of performance (regardless of the result), which seems to be what you did.  Don't bury a decent idea by whining at your critics.

Well said

i think leo could have looked up and passed the ball instead of taking that first shot of his straight to the keeper