Player ratings v Tards

Player ratings v Tards

It was a game of two halves, hmmm well wildly varying performances. Awful defence at times.

sorry oi but far to generous by a long shot, even with our fight back.

The only ones that came away untarnished were Manny, Smith and Daniel.

Ward great first half.

Smith the standout.

Off game from Dura.

If Brown isnt Attacking or Defending then what is he doing. Just a guy on a pitch wearing a striped shirt with his mates looking for the platter ball to hit him on the noggin to keep him in the team for another week?

Terrible delivery every time from Leo. Lovely deliveries from Daniel.


Sorry for the rant!

Pleasee start Paston next week

I thought it was one of Manny poorest games, he gave away the ball cheaply a few times. But he does set the bar very high with his performances.

leo and dura a 4 for me

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Dura was bad/poor? Really, mister consistent?
I missed the game but the words "off game" and "Dura" are not commonly uttered in the same sentence.
P.S those scores seem awfully high for a team that lost 3-1, last weeks scores weren't much higher...
again I didn't see so I'll leave others to calibrate.

God that was hard to watch. I understand fatigue and all, but we'd struggle to get it near their goal, they'd get possession (easily), pass once through the near-non existent midfield and they'd counter well and shoot :P

Start the 11 that finished this week next week against Jets

piney answered that question in one of the previous game threads from memory.  But basically he hardly ever gets subbed off nor has he come on from the bench.

I think Ward deserves to play, if he's still right in the head that is. He looked pretty bloody dazed. FFT.
Obviously Ifill and Sanchez both would start before Pav depending on Fitness.
Smith should replace Brown or Greenie against the jets. Greenie needs a rest and Brown needs a wake up call.
Daniel>Leo atm.
Lia looked alright at RB, if he can do it then play him there and Manny back in CDM.
OK that turned into a bit more of formation post than a ratings post.
I'd probably put everyone down .5 to 1 whole point. Manny had a bad game. Dura and Siggy looked so tired. Lets just all put this down to 3 games on 3 different landmasses in 9 days and move on.

I actually didn't think we were that terrible. Tend to agree with those ratings.

Proving that you're damned if you do, damned if you don't I think maybe Ricki's tactics could've been better (hell, I'd know, I've been watching the game for absolute years). Seemed to me that as laudable as our efforts to play a more expansive game were, they played right into the hands of Thompson and co.

i wish we had seen a bit more rotation in these games - how the hell can we expect our team of 30year olds to play every game in the season and play 3 games in 9 days. Weve got guys like lindsay who need a chance, while greenacre is looking less likely to score with every game

We could easily have got something from that game.

I thought we played some great football, but things went Victorys way early on

SigmUnd made some amazing stops.

Daniel put more decent crosses in during his first 3 minutes than Bertos did all game. Daniel looked real good, he�s been hard done by lately.

Sanchez, Smith look good.

Pavlovic, for goodness sake you couldn�t ask for the better swinging cross than the one he got, and he still headed wide. Waste of space.

end of first half we'd put the ball into the penalty area 17 times compared with the Victories 6. They scored 3 times us 0. All through that gamer the commentary was going on about how we hadn't scored more, a decent striker at the end of any of those crosses and we'd have had 3/4 goals of our own.

We had a chance when the Victory defence had gone to sleep, just after we changed players and rearranged our formation.

Had about 3 chances in a minute, but didn't bury any of them.

I'm starting to subscribe to the idea that Pav wont be getting any better...

he should be able to!

Do people not remember the 20min period in the 2nd half up prior tol the send off where there were about 3x 1v1s (Hernandez, Kewell and Archie) plus Kewell danced around 3 of our defenders and blazed over.

I thought our defence was extremely uncoordinated, guys coming out pressuring the ball and leaving gaps behind, not stepping up as a unit and playing Victory players onside. Melbourne was defending so deep and drawing us forward and stretching play that suited their counter-attacking play.

We looked better when we had 2/3 (Sanchez, Smith, Daniel) options out of defence rather than 1 (Lia). Not sure how things would have panned out if we didn't concede so early but really think Brown was committing himself far to forward and not looking at receiving the ball off the defence and helping Lia or slowing Melbournes play.

Also, Leo's crossing/corners were wasteful.

You mean the same thing as damn near every week for the last 2 seasons?

So much this - I see a few people are commending Siggy for chasing hard, but the only reason he had to do that in the first place is because he kept playing Melbourne players on-side throughout the second half by not pushing up together with the rest of the backline.

Its interesting reading other posts about how Brown has made the 2nd most tackles in the league and Leo has made the most crosses in the league. Objectively, do you think they keep their spots because Ricki can use a stat to justify it? I know he is the vc for club and country but there has to be other reason than that and the stats.

I would like to know if that is tackles won or total tackles attempted, and also how many tackles per game as he has played more games than any other of our midfielders this season. Probably more useful, if a stat is available, to look at possession won in total (including things like intercepts, not just tackles).

Would also be nice to see what our passing stats are, completion % and also completion % dependent on area of the pitch and length of pass

Leo is pants. If he was playing cricket as a bowler he would be the classic 'pie chucker'.

Sanchez took one corner and it was more dangerous than any of Leo's loopy rubbish. WHY must be always take the corners???

Out takes for me:

1. Sign up Smith on a longer term deal. He is worth an import spot.
2. Leo is a shadow of his former self.
3. Pavlovic is rubbish and isn't likely to improve.

I thought Warner was one of our better players, could not really blame him for any of the goals and he was a key reason why it didn't blow out further.

Does anyone think Ricki has been harsh on Daniel? He doesn't beat players anymore really but he's got a much better cross on him than Leo. Should start next week imo.

couldn't agree more. Re-signing Smith on a longer deal and another quality striker much more experienced and dangerous than Pavlovic should be one of the key goals for the Janurary window.