While we're here I thought I'd make this one too:
Paston - 1
Muscat - 0
Durante - 2
Sigmund - 2
Lochhead - 5
Fred - 5
Brown - 3
McKain - 5
Ferrante - 5
Smeltz - 5
Bertos - 4
Moss - 0
Daniel - 4
Hearfield - 4
Paston - 1
Muscat - 0
Durante - 2
Sigmund - 2
Lochhead - 5
Fred - 5
Brown - 3
McKain - 5
Ferrante - 5
Smeltz - 5
Bertos - 4
Moss - 0
Daniel - 4
Hearfield - 4
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Paston - 5
Muscat - -100
Durante - 1
Sigmund - 1
Lochhead - 0
Fred - 4
Brown - 2
McKain - 3
Ferrante - 3
Smeltz - 3
Bertos - 3
Moss - 5
Daniel - 4
Hearfield - 4
valeo2008-12-06 00:20:46
a.haak
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Bit harsh on Moss I feel. Made a couple of great saves but was hung out to dry by the rest of the team.
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Yeah actually you're right. He was pretty much playing without a backline for 30 mins.
a.haak
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Why? 90% of their attacks went down his side and he dealt with barely any.
a.haak
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Football manager ratings
paston==5
muscat=3 sigmund=4 Durante=5 lochhead=5
fred=5 brown=5 Mckain=5 Bertos=6 ferrante==6
Smelt==6
hearfield==5 Moss=4 Daniel==6
score was overflattering to adelaide, should have been a 3-1 loss,
was expecting a loss but i was fuming after game.
ricki will fire the boys up and we'll spank perth next week,
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score was overflattering to adelaide, should have been a 3-1 loss,
Not buying in to that. Should have been 10-0. Weak and spineless
was expecting a loss but i was fuming after game.
Not buying in to that. Should have been 10-0. Weak and spineless
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Two highlights in that game for me:
Paston playing on with that chest injury and still saving our asses a number of times
Ferrante's pearler of a shot, if only it was a few inches lower
Paston playing on with that chest injury and still saving our asses a number of times
Ferrante's pearler of a shot, if only it was a few inches lower
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PAston - 6.5 - Did his best when playing injured and our shapeless defence.
Muscat - 4 - Had the toguhest game, couldn't deal with their left side. To be fair I don't think anyone could ave done it with the lack of support he had.
Siggy - 3 - Was overpowered like the rest of the defence. They were disorganised and ineffective.
Dura - 3.5 - Not much beter than Siggy, but was a bit more calm on the ball.
Lochhead - 2 - Decent first half but seemed to make purposeless runs upfield and then seemed too hopeless to track back.
McKain - 2 - Him, Brown and Ferrante were completely overpowered. Some poor passing and seemed to give-up
Brown - 1.5 - Gave nothing. Simply couldn't get into the game.
Ferrante - 2.5 - Didn't do much but had a bit more heart and nearly scored a scorcher.
Fred - 3 - Sloppy offside goal and nothing else. Spent too mch time on the ball as well, needs to either shoot or pass quicker.
Bertos - 3 - Got frustrated by a tough defence but seemed to be trying.
Smeltz - 2.5 - Couldn't find space and was isolated.
Moss - 5 - Few okay saves but had (like Paston) a horrid defence.
Hearfield - 2 - Barely noticed him other than giving Cristiano some hate.
Daniel - 1.5 - Barely noticed him full stop.
You know we belong together...
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Muscat - 4 - Had the toguhest game, couldn't deal with their left side. To be fair I don't think anyone could ave done it with the lack of support he had.
Siggy - 3 - Was overpowered like the rest of the defence. They were disorganised and ineffective.
Dura - 3.5 - Not much beter than Siggy, but was a bit more calm on the ball.
Lochhead - 2 - Decent first half but seemed to make purposeless runs upfield and then seemed too hopeless to track back.
I can't see how you can give Lochhead the lowest rating of the defence? Sure, he wasn't good, but Muscat was turned over all game, Sigmund was having a shocker that culminated in him gifting them their final goal and Durante wasn't much better.
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Lochhead seemed to do nothing, the rest struggled against countless wave of attacks. Think of their slightly higher ratings as sympathy for not having any support.
You know we belong together...
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I'd rather someone did nothing that do something and gift goals tbh. 
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back to the bad old days of no defence, Muscat played ok, but the rest were really not in the game.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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Paston - 1
He could of saved everything and you still would have gave him a low rating.
Clueless
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Dear oh dear!
Paston 7 Played bloody well
Manny 5 Tried hard throughout, but had no midfielder in front of him and not much cover inside
Dura 5 A one man centre defence
Siggy 3 Missing in action
Lochy 3 Coach voted him off at half time
Fred 3 Very disappointing
Brown 4 over run
McKain 4.5 Out numbered, always trying to find someone to pass to but few options
Ferrante 5 Out muscled, but great shot, unlucky
Leo 6 tried hard to make things happen
Smeltzy 6 Made some good runs, but got little service
Troy 6 Tried to make things happen too, nearly suicceeded
All in all Adelaide were too strong, a good game plan that made huge space for their attackers and closed us down very easily, we weren't up to it
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
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A few generous ratings there, don't think anyone other than Paston deserves 6 or more
You know we belong together...
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Paston - 1
He could of saved everything and you still would have gave him a low rating.
Clueless
Perhaps you're confusing me for someone else, but I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Do you?
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I thought Smeltz stood out last night. He chased the ball to the bitter end, held it up well, almost worked himself a couple of chances without success. Even right at the death he was chasing down defenders and forcing a few errors from Adelaide.
Fred and Brown were barely there. Ferrante was plain awful: I lost count of the number of times he lost possession or passed straight to one of their players. And he looked more knackered at the 70 minute mark than any pro footballer has a right to.
Also very disappointed with Durante. Far too many mistakes for someone who is supposed to be leading by example. However, I'm going to forgive them all because Adelaide were brilliant last night. Once they smelled blood we were done for.
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Dear oh dear!
Paston 7 Played bloody well
Manny 5 Tried hard throughout, but had no midfielder in front of him and not much cover inside
Dura 5 A one man centre defence
Siggy 3 Missing in action
Lochy 3 Coach voted him off at half time
Fred 3 Very disappointing
Brown 4 over run
McKain 4.5 Out numbered, always trying to find someone to pass to but few options
Ferrante 5 Out muscled, but great shot, unlucky
Leo 6 tried hard to make things happen
Smeltzy 6 Made some good runs, but got little service
Troy 6 Tried to make things happen too, nearly suicceeded
All in all Adelaide were too strong, a good game plan that made huge space for their attackers and closed us down very easily, we weren't up to it
I'd more or less agree with that lot OOE.
Great point about the lack of support and cover that Muscat was given. He seems to be being offered up as this week's sacrificial lamb, unfairly imo.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Paston had his best game and was easily the best player, can't remember who but someone said on this website that Muscat would be crap becuase of Cassio + Jamieson, how right they were.
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Ah. Refers to previous point about sacrificial lambs!
For what it's worth:
1. I don't think Muscat was crap.
2. If he was going to be 'crap' because he was going to have to deal with Cassio AND Jamieson, tactically it might have been an idea to provide some cover for him. Both in front and inside.
3. I thought he had a far better game than Lochhead.
I would also like to state for the record that I am not related to Mr Muscat and have received no reward, financial or otherwise, for making this post 
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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durante was terrible, as he has been all season. by far the worst on the field.
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Ah. Refers to previous point about sacrificial lambs!
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For what it's worth:
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1. I don't think Muscat was crap.
2. If he was going to be 'crap' because he was going to have to deal with Cassio AND Jamieson, tactically�it might have been an idea to provide some cover for him. Both in front and inside.
3. I thought he had a far better game than Lochhead.
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I would also like to state for the record�that I am not related to Mr Muscat and have received no reward, financial or otherwise, for making this post
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durante was terrible, as he has been all season. by far the worst on the field.
I suppose you didn't watch last weeks game then?
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So, 'at this level', the full back should be good enough to deal with two players attacking
him?
Hmm. OK.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Paston had his best game and was easily the best player
Agreed. Neither of the goals were really his fault, both poorly defended - and Fred let the second one slip through his legs when he was supposed to be on the post? Awesome. Paston was clearly pissed at that, poor guy.
I've said many times I prefer Moss, but Paston has certainly grown on me with that (and other) performances and I'm confident enough having him as #1 keeper and hope he's well enough for next game.
As for the rest of the players and the game... no comment. Although was anyone really surprised when Ferrante hit the crossbar?
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So, 'at this level', the full back should be good enough to deal with two players attacking
No I mean that they shouldn't beat him so easily perhaps he was isolated because RM or CRB should of been helping him out but basically what happened every time - and it worked everytime - was Cassio would be on a one on one with Muscat and then Jamieson would go sprinting down the line and then Cassio would pass it to him. Sometimes Cassio would just wait and Muscat wouldn't even go into the tackle. him?
Hmm. OK.
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So, 'at this level', the full back should be good enough to deal with two players attacking
No I mean that they shouldn't beat him so easily perhaps he was isolated because RM or CRB should of been helping him out but basically what happened every time - and it worked everytime - was Cassio would be on a one on one with Muscat and then Jamieson would go sprinting down the line and then Cassio would pass it to him. Sometimes Cassio would just wait and Muscat wouldn't even go into the tackle.
him?
Hmm. OK.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that Muscat had a superb game but I think we should be looking at what was going on around him as well. The bits I've highlighted reinforce that. If Cassio was committing the fullback before passing to an unmarked man on the overlap then it's understandable that the fullback would be hesitant to commit himself.
Personally, I think the outcome would have been the same no matter who was playing right back. Siggy was left on his arse a few times as players skipped past him, and anybody who thinks Plodder would have done a better job can't have seen many Nix games last season.
Bottom line, for me, is that it was one of those nights. Nobody played particularly well and we were playing a team who, on the night, were very good and tactically got it spot on. Adelaide aren't sitting where they are on the table for nothing.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I know what you mean I don't know whos fault it was that Muscat wasn't supported but perhaps he should of gone into the tackle earlier causing more pressure on the pass atleast thats something he could of done by himself.wellyphoenixfan2008-12-06 11:43:41
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Absolutely Shocking!! FFS how can they have 5 on Smeltzy protecting there goal then when they switch it back to their attack they have somuch space and free shots! If Smeltz was in a team like that he would have 20 already this season! We are too slow! Embarrassing is all I can say! I was out after game last Fri - Do you think it has anything to do with most of the team off there trees at 4am!!
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Paston - 1
He could of saved everything and you still would have gave him a low rating.
Clueless
Perhaps you're confusing me for someone else, but I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Do you?
You gave Paston a 1 rating, it is the most clueless rating I have ever seen on this forum.
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There was nothing wrong with Paston, he played fine. Moss on the other hand was out of position for both of Cassio's goals (once I would let him off with it, but twice FFS!) - he was too far to the right of the goal, it's not like both shots went right in at the post!
Nobody else really stood out, Smeltz did ok but received little support, and Bertos could not have beaten an egg last night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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i haven't been following all these posts so it might've already been said,
just watched goals on u tube:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LHx8Al5w9mc
anyone else notice how far offside Fred was for his goal? the line-o didn't
just watched goals on u tube:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LHx8Al5w9mc
anyone else notice how far offside Fred was for his goal? the line-o didn't
Salmon swim upstream
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i haven't been following all these posts so it might've already been said,
just watched goals on u tube:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LHx8Al5w9mc
anyone else notice how far offside Fred was for his goal? the line-o didn't
just watched goals on u tube:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LHx8Al5w9mc
anyone else notice how far offside Fred was for his goal? the line-o didn't
tbf a couple of there's looked dodgey too
Salmon swim upstream
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Paston - 1
He could of saved everything and you still would have gave him a low rating.
Clueless
Perhaps you're confusing me for someone else, but I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Do you?
You gave Paston a 1 rating, it is the most clueless rating I have ever seen on this forum.
Do you want to put some of your own ratings up or are you just going to bitch about others' ratings?
Please bestow upon us your mighty footballing knowledge, if we are worthy.
Arsenal2008-12-06 15:52:25
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What he is saying / asking is how the hell do you give Paston a rating of 1
If you can justify it, fair enough, I'd also like to know what made you believe he played so badly to deserve that.
If not, then why post it, there isnt any point
If you can justify it, fair enough, I'd also like to know what made you believe he played so badly to deserve that.
If not, then why post it, there isnt any point
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I posted a thread, largely tongue in cheek after the game (as was my MOM thread), when everyone was worked up. I rated everyone poorly in the team.
Do I think Paston was worth a 1? No.
Do I think Paston was MOM? No.
Will I change my ratings to appease Wolfben and pals? No.
Do I think Paston was worth a 1? No.
Do I think Paston was MOM? No.
Will I change my ratings to appease Wolfben and pals? No.
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I posted a thread, largely tongue in cheek after the game (as was my MOM thread), when everyone was worked up. I rated everyone poorly in the team.
Do I think Paston was worth a 1? No.
Do I think Paston was MOM? No.
Will I change my ratings to appease Wolfben and pals? No.
Do I think Paston was worth a 1? No.
Do I think Paston was MOM? No.
Will I change my ratings to appease Wolfben and pals? No.
Will I do these things just to get attention? Yes
( 
)Actually I am still feeling like this
all this time later, even though " it is only a game".I hate to see our team getting thrashed
after doing so well, and although I hadnt got my hopes up,- with the great record Adelaide have had at home and their consistently good results in the champions league - I was genuinely shocked 
at our performance. It went from bad to worse and we didnt seem to adjust, and I'm wondering about the leadership on the parkSo it will be a while before I can
at anythingAAARRGGHH
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It was a shocker alright, here's hoping it fires us up for Perth.
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