Please Super Terry...

 

 

p.s I don't know much about this topic so please tell me if my idea is coming straight out of a donkeys arse.

 

NZFC is a league - you mean NZF. And it's not an increase of fees it's a one off levy. It happened about a decade ago. It's complete crap - a nuisance for every club to try and collect. Should be the complete last resort, especially when NZF do little for grass roots football

 

Whoops sorry, misread it.......

 

 Quote - NZFC is a league - you mean NZF. And it's not an increase of fees it's a one off levy. It happened about a decade ago.

 

And a decade before that.

 

It is bloody annoying when a group of volunteers, amateurs (as in unpaid), or in this case, players, pay someone to  professionally manage the funds and then need to bale those "Professionals" out again. This is not like a bunch of volunteers doing their best to run a club, these guys are getting paid.

 

The number of hangers on that turn up whenever there is a bun fight is amazing. Anyone who looked in the door of the NZF function room the day of our first game against Melbourne, would havew thought thet it was an old boys reunion. (The majority from Auckland).

 

What is now needed is an outside audit with the power to sanction a slash and burn mantelity.

Those employed are to adhere to their position descriptions and be accountable for keeping within their own budget . I am sure this is given total lip service at the moment.

 

If we are going to compete in International Football  then lobbying of the Government for ongoing support  is essential. The message has to be got across that we are not competing in a sport  played seriously by 5 countries, like the other major sports in this country are,  and expectations need to be different. Our combined playing and supporting strengths (read votes) needs to be properly assessed and then published and marketed.

 

All of this should and probably has been done in the past, but it has not been done effectively.

That's the challenge.

 

One suggestion, Move NZF back to Wellington. Not as many inflated ego's down here and lower admin costs to start with.

 

here here, and get Marius L running the show..

 

I agree JD. Why would, or should, Terry S (or any other rational human being) pour money into a perpetually leaking bucket?  And let's not forget where Mr Seatter's heart and efforts were when the NZ Knights collapsed and urgent attempts were being made to launch a new NZ-based club in the A-League.  They were in Auckland!  They certainly weren't behind Wellington's (or any other) bid, and the lack of a level playing field with respect to NZF was shamedly clear for all to see.  After many years of embarrassing failures in Auckland (with the Kingz and Knights), one would have rationally thought yet another attempt in that city would go the same way (while Mr Seatter (and NZF) may not have come to that obvious conclusion, letting his heart rule his head, potential investors obviously did). The fact of the matter is, had Terry S been behind the Wellington bid in the beginning, he would not have received the support of Mr Seatter or NZF (until, of course, the hopes of an Auckland-based team were truly extinguished).

 

To lead an amateur game in this country to a $2 million loss in four years (notwithstanding the fiasco with the Fiji game caused by overstated egos in the Government) and, I understand, to insolvency is unacceptable.  It is also unacceptable to now simply tax the grass roots in order to recoup and bury the loss, at least certainly without first being able to convince and satisfy the 'paying customers' that there is a credible and workable plan going forward to raise the profile and standard of football in NZ, and that the current personnel are capable of implementing that plan.

 

Mr Seatter's (and presumably the NZF board's) strategic vision over the last several years appears to have been strongly hinged on promoting the All Whites at all costs.  Football in this country is never going to prosper foremost through the All Whites - it's simply pouring money into an endless hole.  It will only primarily happen by directing spending and efforts at the grass roots level, i.e., our kids and youth, with the aim of developing some of them into professional club players, either in the A-League or elsewhere (in this regard, in my view, the Phoenix will do considerably more for NZ football than the All Whites could ever dream of doing).  The low standard of the NZFC is a sure sign of how badly NZ football is developing players. It's therefore interesting that one of the options now allegedly flagged by NZF includes making it even more difficult for kids / youth, and hence NZ football, to develop and prosper by imposing a user-pay mentality.

how does the below work? I thought we pay at least $400 to NZF via the federation for a senior team? Anyone know how $6 is arrived at?

 

Nationwide levy: The proposed $10 levy per player would be the first NZ Football affiliation increase since 2004. NZF current receives approximately $640,000 from affiliation fees � roughly $6 per player per year if all players are counted � which equates to less than 10 percent of total NZF revenue.

 

From memory I think Sparc funds the high performance manager in each federation, this was Andy Hedge in Wellington prior to him taking over from Mick Waitt.

 

National Development Officer is the job title and apparently the money comes from Southern Trust but is facilitated by SPARC so isn't actually government money...I always thought it was but following posts on here someone corrected me.

 

There is a new girl in Andy's old NDO role in the Capital now.  I think her name is Bev.  The job description as I understand it is to identify talent and report back to NZF about it as well as doing coach development with elite coaches?  Something like that.