but happyted, 25% of the teams end up in the bottom two
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
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I agree that anything that raises the profile of the game is good
the LA Galaxy game was a prime example of that and was fantastic
and the Phoenix do raise the profile of the game but at what
cost?they will still finish in bottom 2 so the may raise the
profile but not the credibility or the standardthe NZFC is in a
state at the moment as yesterdays result at Manawatu shows it is
the long term affect of an A-League team in NZ that concerns
me
wierdo
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but happyted, 25% of the teams end up in the bottom two
Oh well thats alright then someone has to finish there so might as well be Wellington eh?
Gobsh*te!!!!!
Do you know what nemesis means
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By the same logic everyone in an 8 team league reaches the quarter
finals...
Personally I will be happy if the Phoenix round off this season 6th.
Next season I would like to see us in the playoffs
The season after that I would like to see them contesting the title.
If we can't have that as at least some groundwork then we really are in trouble. For now though we've had a solid opening season.
Personally I will be happy if the Phoenix round off this season 6th.
Next season I would like to see us in the playoffs
The season after that I would like to see them contesting the title.
If we can't have that as at least some groundwork then we really are in trouble. For now though we've had a solid opening season.
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remember that they are thinkming of putting new teams in so it will
expand the length of the league so it might start early
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I agree that anything that raises the profile of the game is
good
the LA Galaxy game was a prime example of that and was fantastic
and the Phoenix do raise the profile of the game but at what cost?
they will still finish in bottom 2 so the may raise the profile but not the credibility or the standard
the NZFC is in a state at the moment as yesterdays result at Manawatu shows it is the long term affect of an A-League team in NZ that concerns me
the LA Galaxy game was a prime example of that and was fantastic
and the Phoenix do raise the profile of the game but at what cost?
they will still finish in bottom 2 so the may raise the profile but not the credibility or the standard
the NZFC is in a state at the moment as yesterdays result at Manawatu shows it is the long term affect of an A-League team in NZ that concerns me
Ted, surely the new Wellington club has strengthened the
NZFC, as a result of the former Auckland based club folding, and
few of their players being picked up, there are higher quality
players who formerly played at an A-League (and higher) now playing
in New Zealand, which has to be good for domestic football.
Uneven results have always been a part of football in every
league, and are not just seen in NZ. Last weekend's Team
Welly/Young Heart result can hardly be skewed to be a result of the
Phoenix distorting the NZFC. It's not necessarily an advantage,
those with longer memories will recall that Team Wellington
was on the other end of a 5-1 thrashing just the week
before.
That football's credibility has been raised in NZ as a result
of the Phoenix is beyond doubt - average crowd numbers alone are a
good indicator. It has attracted a lot of positive attention in the
media and between average sports followers. The fact that it
is a new club with a fresh story has created a buzz, just as the
Wynton Rufer led Football Kings did when they first cracked this
Aussie based league. And their exciting, fighting and
attacking play, great open and honest attitude from the club's
owner, coach and players has pulled in regular followers.
I can't go past the numbers that attend their matches, have
signed up for club membership and who visit this forum to
discuss all aspects of football in New Zealand and abroad. I
think it's been bloody fantastic. I was hooked in NZ after they
rose from the dead just before the pre-season, read about
them while backpacking in South America and I've been
following their progress avidly since arriving in the UK - I can't
say Canterbury United did the same, though I'm still interested in
how they're doing - I think the fact that many people are
hooked comes down to the high standard the Phoenix have set.
Don't be concerned, as this effort from NZ Football and the
Club is a good thing. The spin-offs are better coverage of local
football, which I've noticed on the main papers' websites, (the
coverage has certainly improved from where it was four or five
years ago), a competitive club, with stable support, and local
football heroes for football fans young and old. I'm struggling to
see the costs.
Time to get behind them Ted, you don't have to stop
supporting your local team, but this is another good
opportunity for everyone to enjoy a football
renaissance.
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I agree that anything that raises the profile of the game is
good
the LA Galaxy game was a prime example of that and was fantastic
and the Phoenix do raise the profile of the game but at what cost?
they will still finish in bottom 2 so the may raise the profile but not the credibility or the standard
the NZFC is in a state at the moment as yesterdays result at Manawatu shows it is the long term affect of an A-League team in NZ that concerns me
the LA Galaxy game was a prime example of that and was fantastic
and the Phoenix do raise the profile of the game but at what cost?
they will still finish in bottom 2 so the may raise the profile but not the credibility or the standard
the NZFC is in a state at the moment as yesterdays result at Manawatu shows it is the long term affect of an A-League team in NZ that concerns me
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Other than playing local NZFC teams, I would like us to play teams
of higher quality than presently in the A-League possibly some
teams from Asia/South America. More a pipe dream, but something I
think would have our players extend themselves and hopefully
improve our level of play, composure and intensity.
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is there a chance that the phoenix could be "touring" new zealand, by that i mean playing teams within nz as it will also be there pre-season also.
i know we are gonna tour oz pre-season as well but i was
wondering if there is gonna be a tour, coz living in welly i would
be happy to travel within nz to watch my fav footie team
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is there a chance that the phoenix could be "touring" new zealand, by that i mean playing teams within nz as it will also be there pre-season also.
i know we are gonna tour oz pre-season as well but i was
wondering if there is gonna be a tour, coz living in welly i would
be happy to travel within nz to watch my fav footie team
I agree except if an A-League competition game,
(pre-seasons away OK) but the real games should remain here
in Welly. I'd love to go to Napier to see them play,
I've never been there and they've been a solid footie city for as
long as I can remember.
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An end of season nzfc tour, sounds good to me .
waikato,waitakere & auckland i could make all three
waikato,waitakere & auckland i could make all three
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I agree that anything that raises the profile of the game is
good
the LA Galaxy game was a prime example of that and was fantastic
and the Phoenix do raise the profile of the game but at what cost?
they will still finish in bottom 2 so the may raise the profile but not the credibility or the standard
the NZFC is in a state at the moment as yesterdays result at Manawatu shows it is the long term affect of an A-League team in NZ that concerns me
the LA Galaxy game was a prime example of that and was fantastic
and the Phoenix do raise the profile of the game but at what cost?
they will still finish in bottom 2 so the may raise the profile but not the credibility or the standard
the NZFC is in a state at the moment as yesterdays result at Manawatu shows it is the long term affect of an A-League team in NZ that concerns me
Great call!
I pissed myself laughing and everyone in the office looked at
me.... SNAPPED!
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At this point in the season profile is all important, first season
expectations can't be too high, a solid 6th/7th is credible given
the other NZ teams history. Next season performance will be mega
important, we will need to back the profile raising season with a
good finish, perhaps aiming for 3rd or 4th.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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mmmm. . . is anyone going to watch the O-league play-offs involving
a home-away series with the Wellington Phoenix and the two group
O-league pool winners later on the off-season? Well it is a recent
possibility.
BTW it is confirmed that NZ will play Fiji in Samoa in June.
Anyone fancy a Samoan Holiday? Take the family on a trip and surprise them with a football game.
BTW it is confirmed that NZ will play Fiji in Samoa in June.
Anyone fancy a Samoan Holiday? Take the family on a trip and surprise them with a football game.
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At this point in the season profile is all important, first season
expectations can't be too high, a solid 6th/7th is credible given
the other NZ teams history. Next season performance will be mega
important, we will need to back the profile raising season with a
good finish, perhaps aiming for 3rd or 4th.
If only we had Jorvan Vieira or a Philippe Troussier as coach, we'll be top of the table and you will be eating those words. They have brought bottom teams up and make them world class champions within a few months.
To be honest Ricki isn't in the same league tho as them, but I did expect them to get 5th or even 4th in the 1st season with the forward and midfielders we had lined up but if it wasn't for the obvious lousy thin defence depth problems. Once the squad lined up for the season, we were destined for the bottom three because of the defence was thin. Even my Aussie counterparts could see that.
What I am saying, is that 6th/7th is NOT CREDIBLE at all (who cares about the previous nz team history). However the crowd, club and the playing style is acceptable enough. (yeah I know, i am splitting hairs a bit). Still love the gatetakings/crowd average, I was right on the button with my prediction for the season with my Aussie counterparts on BigSoccer.com
Next year I expect Phoenix to be contesting for the title since we should have more time and money to spend on the transfer window on credible defenders as well as have a better preseason training. we should plug up some gaps in the player depth and get a few attacking midfielders or playmakers that threatens to score the odd goal and so free the forward from some tight making.
Don't ever believe that we are less than the other teams because we are new and from NZ. Take each game for a win and not for a draw and never for a lost. Never lower the expectation of our team because that is bollock talking. 3rd or 4th placing should never be the aim in a 8 or 10 team league maybe for a 20 team league but not in the A-league. We had one season experience, we should drive for the 1st or 2nd placing.
"Aim low, be low . . . aim high, be high."
Ricki can do it once we get our 5 decent players after the transfer window. (2 defenders, 2 midfielders, 1 forward) and we are player depth complete.
Sorry but I am sick of "we played well' and then a pat on the back talk. Bollocks. It was more "we did Ok and a bit unlucky but nothing really to boost"
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