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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i dont throw beer round either im just saying i dont mind it. ive never heard racist remarks either just a bit or swaring but i havent seen anyone take offence to it. if i dident like swaring and it was going on i would simply move an astile over. there was 1 guy with a young kiddie in his bag and he dident care about the swareing and btw that litttle kid in the back pac was awsome i saw him steal a chip from a passer by, good on ya
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
markho wrote:
My son (17) and I sit down the front of aisle 24. We can see the game and once we have figured out the chants are happy to join in. Yes, some of the lanuage is well .....rough, but no worse than that anywhere else most of the time.
 
Sounds like you're both ready for the Fever Zone... "come and join us, come and join us, come and join us over here"
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
SiNZ wrote:

I'd rather not get beer on me. I don't think spilling your beer makes anyone think, "look he's wasting beer, it's expensive so that means he loves the team!

Perhaps it's an age thing - I think it's the younger lads that are probably more in to pouring beer on each other. I've found that the screw tops on the beer bottles keep my beer in the bottle when I'm not pouring it down my throat.
 
I'm not into throwing beer over everbody either. Spray it on your mates but I dont want it all over me thanks. I could respond by throw my HOT coffee all over you in return.

A dog with a bone :)

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
haha - if its a cold night, some might rather hot coffee instead of coldish beer
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i was sitting about 3 rows behind the people that the thread was started about, they were annoying and twats but at no stage did i hear anything racist. maybe 2 of them had shirts round there heads. they were getting in to it which doesnt bother me. im yet to see or read proof of the racist stuff

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

i am one of the "dickheads" or whatever at the front and would like to know exactly what racist chants we were saying because as far as i can recall not one racist word was said.

Come on guys.  If you dont want to yell and sing and dance dont sit in the fever zone.  Theres a whole other side of the stadium to sit in if you dont like it.  Its like going to a rock concert and standing front centre then complaining about getting squashed.  Or walking in front of the bank at the basin with a tie on back in the day and not expecting to be pelted with what ever was close to hand. 

They have a red zone for the sevens and a fever zone for the football.  You must surely have some idea of what to expect by now. 
 
Furthermore, incase you havent noticed, the fever zone in its self has about as many security guards as the rest of the stadium watching our every move.  If someone steps out of line they get kicked out, have seen it happen and will no doubt see it happen again
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Some of the language was rough considering there were kids around, yet at the same time it was quite funny as the situation at the time deserved it. I was in Aisle 21 and didn't hear any racist chants as such. Maybe the booing of Leo Bertos was over the top, what did he ever do to the Phoenix??
 
All in all a good singing performance by the YF. When everyone got into the right timing the songs sounded mega loud and scarey!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I've never heard anything resembling a racist chant in the Fever zone, and if I ever do I'll tell the muppets doing it to shut their traps.
Overall, I'd say that the behaviour in the YF zone is of a much higher standard than at many of the terraces in some European stadiums where I've spent some time in the past...many of the complaints here seem a bit overblown to me...
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
SiNZ wrote:

I'd rather not get beer on me. I don't think spilling your beer makes anyone think, "look he's wasting beer, it's expensive so that means he loves the team!

Perhaps it's an age thing - I think it's the younger lads that are probably more in to pouring beer on each other. I've found that the screw tops on the beer bottles keep my beer in the bottle when I'm not pouring it down my throat.
 
Wear a jacket.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What, and get beer on it
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I thought the booing of Bertos was a bit lame (heard it on the TV). 'Ricki Herberts Yellow Army' sounded awesome though!!

a.haak

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mapple wrote:

i am one of the "dickheads" or whatever at the front and would like to know exactly what racist chants we were saying because as far as i can recall not one racist word was said.

Come on guys.  If you dont want to yell and sing and dance dont sit in the fever zone.  Theres a whole other side of the stadium to sit in if you dont like it.  Its like going to a rock concert and standing front centre then complaining about getting squashed.  Or walking in front of the bank at the basin with a tie on back in the day and not expecting to be pelted with what ever was close to hand. 

They have a red zone for the sevens and a fever zone for the football.  You must surely have some idea of what to expect by now. 
 
Furthermore, incase you havent noticed, the fever zone in its self has about as many security guards as the rest of the stadium watching our every move.  If someone steps out of line they get kicked out, have seen it happen and will no doubt see it happen again


You didn't read my post properly ,i wasn't referring to any particular dick head you or otherwise, it was a generalization on dick heads  the world over and an observation that from my experience of being at football games over  many years that you will from time to time find people who will  act in a highly offensive  and inappropriate way ,im not talking about laughing at the stewards shouting at the ref or taking the piss out of the opposing players or each other for that matter  more the sinister and deeply sickening mob mentality relating to people of a different race /religion/sex.
Having said that i didn't hear any racial chants on Sunday either so  perhaps it is getting blown out of proportion and maybe the person who thought he heard the chants was mistaken,no harm in being vigilant though is there ?by all means" yell sing and dance"after all we have something very special here but lets make sure no one spoils it for the real fans!

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i was another of those guys("dickheads") down the front of yellow fever and getting amongst it. yes we did say 2 the boy we don't like aston villa fair enuf aswell he enjoyed it and laughed and we all moved on. no way did he get abused.
 
also no kids were anywhere near the ball that got thrown 2 us my mate caught it clean and there was no way it got stolen from the kid he was no way near it.
 
 the throwing of beer ok we got excited when we scored but who didnt watch green street holigans then you'll really find out what throwing beers all about just harden up mate and enjoy the game...
 
we decided 2 crank the chant lets get naked after all our clothes were soaked in rain cause we were hard enuf 2 support our team from where we are every home game buddy then every1 joined in behind us... nd wat is surly 2 become a tradition when the nix r winning in the 80th minute.
 
LAST BUT not least racism. the only racist chant that i ever heard started or said is "show us your passport" nd it went nowhere. so i suggest you go attend a mcevedy shield meeting next year and go c wat racist chants r all about (rongatai knows all about them). i apoligise on behalf of the lads if us having fun and supporting yellow fever and the nix pisses u off shabby, i'll b sure 2 bring you round a beer shower when you cant handle a bit of "game day" action as we support the nix the way they deserve.
 
loving it boys suberb effort wiv. try get sum more numbers 2 the backbencher b4 the game yer.
also away games lets all get there 2 rather empty last time.
 
boltonc3pos2007-10-02 17:37:42
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
...who didnt watch green street holigans then you'll really find out what throwing beers all about just harden up mate and enjoy the game...


Mention of that rubbish movie is a banning...

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think we have to be a bit careful we don't get carried away here.  For all the talk of racist chants, no one has actually said what was chanted/said that was racist.  I personally have never heard anything rasict in the zone, and I have been in a few different areas in there.
 
If some people can substantiate the racist claims, which are more than "you're a bunch of convicts" at the aussies, then we can look into it.  Until then, I think we are just creating an issue out of nothing.
 
 
I agree with this. I've never heard anything racist at any of the home games either and I don't expect to from what I seen of the majority of the people that live in the YF zone. The getting pissed, swearing and chucking beer around is fairly harmless really if you think about it. Obviously don't wear the Armani when going to the game.
 
Lets not confuse the young 'uns getting boisterous with anything more sinister shall we? After all we don't wanna spoil the YF zone.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

WHAT IS EVERYONE ON ABOUT AH?

I was one of those f**kn idiots at the front of fever zone, we there to have a good time. If  for some people thats being out of control go to a game in europe then u will know what a real supporters stand feels like. Whats a bit of beer being spilt in the air gona hurt. Piss off and go 2 rugby match and clap when they score a try.

If people think we are idiots thats there problem ah we there for football and a goodtime. We never made any racist comments and no ball was taken off a kid just to make that clear to everyone, whoever thought that get ya eyes checked, and who thought we were on drugs? what a joke.
I wish I could chuck the people into a hardcore english supporters stand when there team scores and then complain on there website about getn pushed and beer spilt or whatever.
 
Nothing wrong with that.
Just cant believe someone heard racist chants or us being racist at all. Thanks to the people who backed this up and know that was not the case.
One more thing we are not hooligans, I just forget how blind some people are in NZ, maybe they been to too many rugby games ah,
 
We all there for team and atmosphere so lets work together ah. 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

me and my mate were watchn the game a few seats away from these so called p crazed idiots and never heard any racist remarks...someone has had a shocker..in my opinion these guys are bloody good value and no how to enjoy the football.

my mate was also the guy who caught the ball up the front...what the hell are you on about it being stolen off a little kid..he caught it fairly so who ever said that is a muppet

all these allegations have been blown waaaay out of proportion so just get on and support the mighty nix

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I have just re-read my comments, and I am shocked to admit that they are quite sensible.
 
So I retract them.
 
f**k THE DICK-HEADS AT THE FRONT, f**k THE IDIOTS AT THE BACK, f**k EVERYONE ELSE IN EVERY OTHER PART OF THE RING OF FIRE,  f**k THE REF, f**k ALL OF YOUSE.
 
Phew, that feels better.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
haha i'm with you frankie. did you other guys all just sign up to YF in order to get that off your chest? being hard enough to stand in the rain (with 10,000 other people) is quite the feat lads. top notch. as for racism, i think we have established that maybe there was none going on, but even things like 'show us your passport' isn't really that funny. even for the white middle class guy like myself. would hate for the likes of daniel or fillipe (god bless  ) to hear that, as even though its not directed at them - there is no difference. Great win, great crowd, lets keep it all great. mob mentality will get us nowhere, unless of course it is a mob of 10,000 - then bring it on!
 
stay classy wellington
NZgooner2007-10-02 19:59:25
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Someone referenced  Green Street and was serious?
 
One of the reviews: "Green Street is a colossal misstep at every turn, and it's the sort of film that's bound to appeal more to one who knows not a single thing about football in the UK than one with even the slightest knowledge. It's patronising, cheap and violent in all the wrong ways."
 
Glad to hear that the fuss all sounds like it was nowt. Shabba?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hahaha Green street what a joke
 
Elijah wood as a tough guy
please
the only thing scared of him is the bucket fountain.
 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yeah sadly enough, i think he was serious. boo!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hooligans? No friggen way. I've been to a few matches on my traveks. Thats the good thing about the Phoenix, there's no away fans with any trouble and there's certainly no home fans causing any. I'm really enjoying meeting so many new people at these games. New friendships formed etc.
 
Ok, so one or three might have a beer too many from time to time but i am pleasantly surprised at how well behaved they are regardless.
 
The fever zone from my point of view as someone who has sat on each side of it, is that it looks fun, you know to go in there you are:
 
A) gonna sing ya heart out.
B) stand for the entire game.
C) probably cop somones spilt beeer in the excitement. (Free Beer if you think about it!) (I have been to Wellington Rugby games at Athletic Park when "fans" urinated into cans and then threw them off the top of the Millard Stand. God knows how someone never got killed.)
D) wonder whether or not you just got caught up in a most amazing experience.
E) wonder why Rugby fans are so quiet - except when calling out the only chant they know "Black, Black, Black" (& as a Hurricanes fan - "Hurricanes, Hurricanes" - I tried to start them up with a song or three but they stare at me like I'm from another planet - maybe I am???)
F) prove to the Stadium that you don't need loud music during every break in a match when the fans can make their own!
 
My only thing about the YF Zone - Could we spread the numbers around to Aisle 20, 21, 23, 24 - There are fans there just dying to break out in song if only they were led!
Lonegunmen2007-10-02 20:42:12
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

green street is quality. u reckon whale riders better or sumthng?

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Hey a few of my Rellies-in-law were in Whale Rider and I'm talking about actors not Whales! Lonegunmen2007-10-02 20:43:37
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

green street is quality. u reckon whale riders better or sumthng?

 
it is just not the most correct portrayal of actual football supporting culture. whale riders pretty good too. haha  
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Oops. That noise was your credibility being lost.

Green Street Hooligans is the worst kind of exploitative filmmaking masquerading as art. Adopting every conceivable clich� associated with the sociopathic aspects of football hooliganism, it's about as realistic as Shrek, but far less entertaining.
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SiNZ wrote:

Oops. That noise was your credibility being lost.

Green Street Hooligans is the worst kind of exploitative filmmaking masquerading as art. Adopting every conceivable clich� associated with the sociopathic aspects of football hooliganism, it's about as realistic as Shrek, but far less entertaining.
 
 
I have no idea what you are saying. But i think you are telling us its a load of crap!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Haha r u f**king kiding me i was 1 of the people in the front row most the chants in the game were stared there and above. wheres this buls*** of racist remarks cum from I did not here 1 and whearing t- shirts on there head it was f***ing cold if u wernt aware. If u dont lik it f***off and sit somewhere else where your coments will be appreciated (By yourself)

 

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
anyway.. keep it up everyone, eventually the fever is going to spread through-out the stadium. it is a matter of time!
 
note: im aware people wouldnt be there if they hadnt alreay got it, but with everone screaming top of their lungs? now that would be some s**t
NZgooner2007-10-02 20:59:23
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Big Boots wrote:
SiNZ wrote:

Oops. That noise was your credibility being lost.

Green Street Hooligans is the worst kind of exploitative filmmaking masquerading as art. Adopting every conceivable clich� associated with the sociopathic aspects of football hooliganism, it's about as realistic as Shrek, but far less entertaining.
 
 
I have no idea what you are saying. But i think you are telling us its a load of crap!!
 
Yeah. It is one of those films that is famed for being so bad. Made for Ignorant Americans is another way it is known .
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Enough of the b*tchin...no ball was stolen and no racist remarks were made. I was down the front and sober....i know none of the above happened. yeah a few beers were spilt here and there and few rude remarks were made.but nothing over the top at all. I think it is all good for kids to be down there. i remember been at the basin as a 12 year old and trying to join in with the bank on chants...thats what its all about!

As for the football superb. i have been to the world cup and the euro's and tell u what, the phoenix crowd is top notch.atmosphere could not be better!!! Well done to you all that braved the cold!!! lets bring home the A league!!
Mullet2007-10-02 21:03:58
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I was down the front with the Idiots having a ball.Did feel a moment of remorse to the fellow sent afta seeing the replay but hay thats the ring of fire. The perth supporta shut up fast but  nowhere else in the world  could u do that in a fever zone and live let alone have a laugh. We were the only ones there when it was raining!!! and whats wrong with new chants.So a bit of Beer got spilt . So to the Idiots that made those stupid comments about us Don't sit in the stand under cover and sing how wonderful the Wgtn weather is STAND UP 4 THE POENIX 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
perhaps shabba is a ref? I'm blind, Im deaf, I wanna be a ref
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
everone please get over it, we all support the same team so lets just get along, i dont think there is any racism, or any thing too malicious, so lets just all get along!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
nixboy wrote:
Haha r u f**king kiding me i was 1 of the people in the front row most the chants in the game were stared there and above. wheres this buls*** of racist remarks cum from I did not here 1 and whearing t- shirts on there head it was f***ing cold if u wernt aware. If u dont lik it f***off and sit somewhere else where your coments will be appreciated (By yourself)

 



Warning.  No need for this rubbish.  Show some respect.

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Lonegunmen wrote:
Hey a few of my Rellies-in-law were in Whale Rider and I'm talking about actors not Whales!


I missed out on the audition, said I was too large for the Whale roles.

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