Wellington Phoenix Men

R2 vs Perth Glory | 9pm Sun 18th Oct | Prestigious Distance Derby

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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

Lets forget about the Newcastle game and look forward to the biggest derby in the footballing calendar.

Forget Melbourne v Melbourne. Forget Sydney v Western Sydney. Forget Real Madrid v Barcelona. This. Is. The. Distance. Derby.

Will Zadkovic completely fluke a screamer again or will he finally have a mental breakdown after watching too many JAYFC videos? Find out Sunday night.

To commemorate this huge occasion, a new trophy has been created;

http://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/article/long-dist...

"The Wellington Phoenix and Perth Glory will be playing for a new trophy when they meet in the second round of the Hyundai A-League at NIB Stadium on Sunday.

The two clubs have collaborated to form the Long Distance Derby Cup which acknowledges the 5255km between the two cities which is the longest distance any club travels in world football."

a.haak

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over 10 years ago

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrivals.

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over 10 years ago

I can't wait until we hoist the CCCC (the climate change criminal cup)

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over 10 years ago

IT'S NOT A FUCKING DERBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 10 years ago

how awful would it be if this was our first piece of silverware...

Terrible idea. 


Allegedly

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over 10 years ago

Wait why are people hating?

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over 10 years ago

Drunk_Monk wrote:

Wait why are people hating?

Because if we win this game we won't care about winning the league. We'll already have the most prestigious trophy in our cabinet.

a.haak

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over 10 years ago

I don't mind the whole distance derby thing. Even though its about as far away from being a derby as possible, that's the point. It's a good idea to have a rivalry and also to celebrate the fact that this is the furthest that any two teams have to travel to play regular football on the planet (depending on who is currently in the Russian Premier League). We're also two teams completely isolated from most other teams so its a natural rivalry, we have too many inconveniences in common.

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over 10 years ago

valeo wrote:

Drunk_Monk wrote:

Wait why are people hating?

Because if we win this game we won't care about winning the league. We'll already have the most prestigious trophy in our cabinet.

No, its over the three regular season games.

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over 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

I don't mind the whole distance derby thing. Even though its about as far away from being a derby as possible, that's the point. It's a good idea to have a rivalry and also to celebrate the fact that this is the furthest that any two teams have to travel to play regular football on the planet (depending on who is currently in the Russian Premier League). We're also two teams completely isolated from most other teams so its a natural rivalry, we have too many inconveniences in common.

Yea. it doesn't meet the definition of a "derby" but its more or less the same thing, so who gives a fudge?

Perth vs Nix seems like the perfect rivalry.

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over 10 years ago

Should we burn effigy's of Jacob Burns prior to every game now?

a.haak

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over 10 years ago

The trophy thing I'm not that fussed about. Maybe it's me, but I have never felt even the merest hint of rivalry with Perth. Other than the fact that they are in the same league as us, obviously (the Jacob Burns factor also helped), and the fact I dislike them just as much as I dislike every other A League club. The horrendous Fox Sports attempts to manufacture a rivalry just leave me cold to be honest.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 10 years ago

Any updates on the team fitness issues?

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over 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

I don't mind the whole distance derby thing. Even though its about as far away from being a derby as possible, that's the point. It's a good idea to have a rivalry and also to celebrate the fact that this is the furthest that any two teams have to travel to play regular football on the planet (depending on who is currently in the Russian Premier League). We're also two teams completely isolated from most other teams so its a natural rivalry, we have too many inconveniences in common.

I'd have thought those reasons would cause us to be allies, if anything, rather than creating a rivalry

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 10 years ago

Jag wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I don't mind the whole distance derby thing. Even though its about as far away from being a derby as possible, that's the point. It's a good idea to have a rivalry and also to celebrate the fact that this is the furthest that any two teams have to travel to play regular football on the planet (depending on who is currently in the Russian Premier League). We're also two teams completely isolated from most other teams so its a natural rivalry, we have too many inconveniences in common.

I'd have thought those reasons would cause us to be allies, if anything, rather than creating a rivalry

Friendly rivalry not a bitter one.

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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

Is the distant derby trophy someone sprawled asleep in an aeroplane seat?



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over 10 years ago

It doesn't matter. We're gonna get dicked. Really have a bad feeling about this one.



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over 10 years ago

valeo wrote:

Should we burn effigy's of Jacob Burns prior to every game now?

Fire up!

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 10 years ago

Jag wrote:

The trophy thing I'm not that fussed about. Maybe it's me, but I have never felt even the merest hint of rivalry with Perth. Other than the fact that they are in the same league as us, obviously (the Jacob Burns factor also helped), and the fact I dislike them just as much as I dislike every other A League club. The horrendous Fox Sports attempts to manufacture a rivalry just leave me cold to be honest.

Not a true fan.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 10 years ago

As far as I'm concerned we only have one true rivalry, and it's with a club who wear blue, are much closer to home, and can never play our first team in a competitive match....

I'm talking, of course, about Miramar

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 10 years ago

Tegal wrote:

how awful would it be if this was our first piece of silverware...

Terrible idea. 

How could you forget about the South Coast Trophy?

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over 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Any updates on the team fitness issues?

Listen to #PhoenixCity. Greenacre delivers.


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 10 years ago

RR wrote:

Tegal wrote:

how awful would it be if this was our first piece of silverware...

Terrible idea. 

How could you forget about the South Coast Trophy?

And the fair play award.

And the Johhny Warren Medal.

Pffft. First piece of silverware? Where have you been man!?


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 10 years ago

The Phoenix didn't win the johnny warren medal.

Fair play award hardly counts. 


Allegedly

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over 10 years ago

just as long as we win. 

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over 10 years ago

Toilet seat > anything else.

Adelaide's resident Nix supporter
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over 10 years ago

Toilet seat > anything else.

Put the toilet seat down!!

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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Junior82 wrote:

Jag wrote:

The trophy thing I'm not that fussed about. Maybe it's me, but I have never felt even the merest hint of rivalry with Perth. Other than the fact that they are in the same league as us, obviously (the Jacob Burns factor also helped), and the fact I dislike them just as much as I dislike every other A League club. The horrendous Fox Sports attempts to manufacture a rivalry just leave me cold to be honest.

Not a true fan.

Because I dislike every other club in the league? Okay then  :-)

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

Jag wrote:

The trophy thing I'm not that fussed about. Maybe it's me, but I have never felt even the merest hint of rivalry with Perth. Other than the fact that they are in the same league as us, obviously (the Jacob Burns factor also helped), and the fact I dislike them just as much as I dislike every other A League club. The horrendous Fox Sports attempts to manufacture a rivalry just leave me cold to be honest.

Not a true fan.

Because I dislike every other club in the league? Okay then  :-)

That post was part of J82's 94%


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 10 years ago

If they renamed this We Hate Those Soft Scum From Australia's East Coast (And You Can Piss Off Too, Adelaide Barrel Boys) Trophy, I'd be in favour it it.


Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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over 10 years ago

Put the toilet seat down!!

Sorry honey.

Adelaide's resident Nix supporter
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over 10 years ago

Put the toilet seat down!!

Sorry honey.

The trophy? We'll be up for it.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 10 years ago

It's not a derby so whoever thought that up should sacked! just win the dam A-league title 

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over 10 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Jag wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

Jag wrote:

The trophy thing I'm not that fussed about. Maybe it's me, but I have never felt even the merest hint of rivalry with Perth. Other than the fact that they are in the same league as us, obviously (the Jacob Burns factor also helped), and the fact I dislike them just as much as I dislike every other A League club. The horrendous Fox Sports attempts to manufacture a rivalry just leave me cold to be honest.

Not a true fan.

Because I dislike every other club in the league? Okay then  :-)

That post was part of J82's 94%

I know

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 10 years ago

The only reason some other clubs have a rivalry is because they are close to each other geographically. Why wouldn't the complete opposite warrant one too? We have a lot in common and have plenty of history to support a rivalry.

· Perth are the only team we beat in all three games in season 1. Since then, we have only earned 9 points out of 9 against one club twice; against Newcastle Jets in 2011-12, and against Sydney FC also in 2011-12.

· Our first home win was against Perth (won 4-1)

· Our first ever clean sheet was also our first away clean sheet and it was against Perth. Our first home clean sheet was also against Perth.

· They were our first ever finals opponents, the first team we had to play in extra time and the first (and only) team we have faced in penalties. And of course it means they were the first team we beat in a penalty shootout.

· Of all the foundation teams, no other has a head-to-head record as evenly matched as ours; 10 wins, 6 draws, 10 losses. 34 goals for, 30 against. The only teams that have a smaller overall goal difference and similar WDL record are two newer teams (Melbourne City and Western Sydney Wanderers).

And then there's our performances each season. I posted this in the "Long Season Beckons" thread last season after the first match:

Anyone noticed that we seem to always have similar results to Perth every year (apart from one season)?

(Points and position each season, WPX first, PG second)

2007/08 --- 20 (8th) -- 20 (7th)

2008/09 --- 26 (6th) -- 22 (7th)

2009/10 --- 40 (4th) -- 39 (5th)

2010/11 --- 41 (6th) -- 23 (10th)

2011/12 --- 40 (4th) -- 43 (3rd)

2012/13 --- 27 (10th) -- 32 (6th)

2013/14 --- 28 (9th) -- 28 (8th)

So losing the opening game to Perth was actually in our best interest, and since they're doing well, that must mean we will do well this season too... That's sound logic, right?

If you take their points tally from last season (and ignore the cheating part) we are once again very close (Perth had 50 points to our 46).

So what more could you want in a rivalry?

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over 10 years ago


So what more could you want in a rivalry?

Being geographically close to the other team.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 10 years ago

The only reason some other clubs have a rivalry is because they are close to each other geographically. Why wouldn't the complete opposite warrant one too? We have a lot in common and have plenty of history to support a rivalry.

· Perth are the only team we beat in all three games in season 1. Since then, we have only earned 9 points out of 9 against one club twice; against Newcastle Jets in 2011-12, and against Sydney FC also in 2011-12.

· Our first home win was against Perth (won 4-1)

· Our first ever clean sheet was also our first away clean sheet and it was against Perth. Our first home clean sheet was also against Perth.

· They were our first ever finals opponents, the first team we had to play in extra time and the first (and only) team we have faced in penalties. And of course it means they were the first team we beat in a penalty shootout.

· Of all the foundation teams, no other has a head-to-head record as evenly matched as ours; 10 wins, 6 draws, 10 losses. 34 goals for, 30 against. The only teams that have a smaller overall goal difference and similar WDL record are two newer teams (Melbourne City and Western Sydney Wanderers).

And then there's our performances each season. I posted this in the "Long Season Beckons" thread last season after the first match:

Anyone noticed that we seem to always have similar results to Perth every year (apart from one season)?

(Points and position each season, WPX first, PG second)

2007/08 --- 20 (8th) -- 20 (7th)

2008/09 --- 26 (6th) -- 22 (7th)

2009/10 --- 40 (4th) -- 39 (5th)

2010/11 --- 41 (6th) -- 23 (10th)

2011/12 --- 40 (4th) -- 43 (3rd)

2012/13 --- 27 (10th) -- 32 (6th)

2013/14 --- 28 (9th) -- 28 (8th)

So losing the opening game to Perth was actually in our best interest, and since they're doing well, that must mean we will do well this season too... That's sound logic, right?

If you take their points tally from last season (and ignore the cheating part) we are once again very close (Perth had 50 points to our 46).

So what more could you want in a rivalry?

I agree.

Because this is something unique in sport why shouldn't it be a rivalry? Derby's are so fudgeing cliche most teams have them. Where the only two teams on PLANET FUCKING EARTH (give or take) that have what we have!

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over 10 years ago

patrick478 wrote:


So what more could you want in a rivalry?

Being geographically close to the other team.

Pfft.... Mariners and the Jets are closer than Perth and us (without counting same city teams of course) and look where it got them.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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I much prefer the GRRRrrrrrrRivals to the wooh, now taking it too seriously...

It's more that we both have to put up with being forgotten by those on or near the Aussie East coast



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Rivalries develop organically - you can't artificially create them.  You can't just pick two teams and say "righto Perth and Wellington you guys are rivals".  It takes, as people have suggested, a geographical closeness or some sort of momentous reason for teams and their fans to develop a rivalry.

If they put an Auckland team in the A-League THAT would create a rivalry.

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