R21 V Central Coast Mariners | Sat 9th March | 9:50pm | SS4

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Great to see Rudan singling out Cillian trying to set up Roy for the hattie before trying to score his own first goal.

Thought it was a smart piece of work from him to set up Singh's second goal too. Realised he had muffed his own chance with a clumsy touch yet managed to hold off a defender and as he was falling down laid the ball off to Singh to smash it in. 

Also a nice flicked on header to play in Roy who unfortunately put his shot wide.

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Sancho wrote:

What was really baffling about CCM was the young imports they have, that 18yo CB loaned from Sheffield got owned by Krishna all night. The other was nothing special. 

Yeah, he had an abysmal night, at direct fault for about 4 or 5 of the goals (including scoring one himself). Looked truly out of his depth. 

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COnst wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

I think Burgess definitely made a claim for a start again next week too, but don't forget that Singh scored two and got two assists. I know it was a blowout but that's still phenomenal. Thought Mandi was a bit poor though

Stopped trying once we were comfortable and it was his lax marking that let us down a few times in the second half, especially Clisby's goal

Maybe Burgess was just knackered.  He hasn't had much game time.  Like others, he should have been subbed at around 60 mins to let the young and keen have a shot.  In retrospect, Rudie will learn from that I'm sure.

Sorry, was meaning Mandi. Thought Burgess was quality, always wanted him to see an extended run!

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spare a thought for poor old Gallop and his metrics chums at FFA. They must be choking on their cornflakes this morning.

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C-Diddy wrote:

How the fudge am I supposed to sleep after that?

I had my first ever Jagerbomb just before kick-off. I was whizzing all night. Would I do it again? Dunno to be honest.

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Sanday wrote:

liberty_nz wrote:

valeo wrote:

Doloras wrote:

And this is why I sometimes feel that the club is doomed - not because of the licence or the metrics, but because it's a broken brand even for the Phoenix faithful. Our ability to get excited about anything is broken.

We win by 6 goals away? "Boo hoo hoo, Krishna didn't celebrate / Rudan's going and taking all our good players with him".

No one here is not over the moon at the win afaik; it was just a strange game. I celebrated every goal. It's just more interesting to talk about other things than just add to the 'yeah we won!'. 

There is a bit of hesitancy I suppose because CCM were the most godawful team I have ever seen in the league. 

Totally agree on the hesitancy. This game is a good lead in to the finish though. 

Worst five sides for me:

5. Shambolic Sydney (2010–11 Sydney FC): went from league and toilet seat winners to 9th place; while not last a major collapse from the so-called leading club.

4. Failed Furries (2010–11 North Queensland Fury)

3. Clive Palmer's Kids FC (2011–12 Gold Coast United FC)

2. Sad-ass Salties (2018–19 Central Coast Mariners)

1. Knight's 'mare (2005–06 New Zealand Knights)

The Knights final record was played 21 won 5 drew 4 lost 12  goals for 13 against 39 points 19.

The Mariners have 7 points after 21 games.

The first season of the Knights, when they only won against CCM:

http://www.ultimatealeague.com/standings.php?seaso...

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liberty_nz wrote:

Sanday wrote:

liberty_nz wrote:

valeo wrote:

Doloras wrote:

And this is why I sometimes feel that the club is doomed - not because of the licence or the metrics, but because it's a broken brand even for the Phoenix faithful. Our ability to get excited about anything is broken.

We win by 6 goals away? "Boo hoo hoo, Krishna didn't celebrate / Rudan's going and taking all our good players with him".

No one here is not over the moon at the win afaik; it was just a strange game. I celebrated every goal. It's just more interesting to talk about other things than just add to the 'yeah we won!'. 

There is a bit of hesitancy I suppose because CCM were the most godawful team I have ever seen in the league. 

Totally agree on the hesitancy. This game is a good lead in to the finish though. 

Worst five sides for me:

5. Shambolic Sydney (2010–11 Sydney FC): went from league and toilet seat winners to 9th place; while not last a major collapse from the so-called leading club.

4. Failed Furries (2010–11 North Queensland Fury)

3. Clive Palmer's Kids FC (2011–12 Gold Coast United FC)

2. Sad-ass Salties (2018–19 Central Coast Mariners)

1. Knight's 'mare (2005–06 New Zealand Knights)

The Knights final record was played 21 won 5 drew 4 lost 12  goals for 13 against 39 points 19.

The Mariners have 7 points after 21 games.

The first season of the Knights, when they only won against CCM:

http://www.ultimatealeague.com/standings.php?seaso...

Yes i see what you mean.My mistake.

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spare a thought for poor old Gallop and his metrics chums at FFA. They must be choking on their cornflakes this morning.

We'll still need a crowd for next week's home game against the Wanderers. If we can't get a good one in Wellington for that, then when will we? What would be considered 'good'  in this context, 15,000?

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Blairinho wrote:

C-Diddy wrote:

How the fudge am I supposed to sleep after that?

I had my first ever Jagerbomb just before kick-off. I was whizzing all night. Would I do it again? Dunno to be honest.

You have too do them before every game now, its a lucky charm.
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Blairinho wrote:

spare a thought for poor old Gallop and his metrics chums at FFA. They must be choking on their cornflakes this morning.

We'll still need a crowd for next week's home game against the Wanderers. If we can't get a good one in Wellington for that, then when will we? What would be considered 'good'  in this context, 15,000?

7pm on a Sunday, anything over 8k would be a good crowd.
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Mulvey given the boot after Phoenix thumping.

I've just seen this headline on Stuff. Go back to previous seasons and we just know this could've meant our coach getting the send-off, after another dismal showing by us.

Going to hell and back was worth it.

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RR wrote:

Blairinho wrote:

spare a thought for poor old Gallop and his metrics chums at FFA. They must be choking on their cornflakes this morning.

We'll still need a crowd for next week's home game against the Wanderers. If we can't get a good one in Wellington for that, then when will we? What would be considered 'good'  in this context, 15,000?

7pm on a Sunday, anything over 8k would be a good crowd.

Well that kick-off time is unfortunate in regard to getting a bumper crowd. I know a family who've faithfully travelled from Palmy and back for most games in Wellington. They'll still make the round-trip but others won't.

I hope Gallop and the bean-counters consider this sort of scheduling. They'll get a good TV audience in Sydney but a poorer crowd in Wellington.

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Here's an interesting stat, 2 managers this season have resigned after having lost a game to us. Are we coach killers? If so then who's next?

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Great to see Rudan singling out Cillian trying to set up Roy for the hattie before trying to score his own first goal.

He gave the lad 9 minutes to score his first goal...the game was won after 45.

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Sancho wrote:

Here's an interesting stat, 2 managers this season have resigned after having lost a game to us. Are we coach killers? If so then who's next?

Warren Joyce if City find themselves out of the finals race when we beat them.

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Opening item on TV3 sports news..woohoo.

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Sancho wrote:

What was really baffling about CCM was the young imports they have, that 18yo CB loaned from Sheffield got owned by Krishna all night. The other was nothing special. 

I'm not saying a young Aussie defender would be better but why use an import slot on someone thats not at minimum A-league quailityor even NPL/Handy quality? They would have been better off promoting young aussie talent to learn much like what we done last year.

As they are in partnership with the Blades it could be that they have to take whoever they get from them on loan as part of the deal.

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.....Bugger ! Fell asleep & just woke up.

.......Did I miss much ?   :)

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Tunnelrat wrote:

.....Bugger ! Fell asleep & just woke up.

.......Did I miss much ?   :)

Yawn... not really.

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Good to see Sarpreet and Roy in the Team of the Week.

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Tunnelrat wrote:

.....Bugger ! Fell asleep & just woke up.

.......Did I miss much ?   :)

Yawn... not really.

Yeah we conceded 2 cheap goals. Will fudge our goal difference right up!

LG
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Blairinho wrote:

RR wrote:

Blairinho wrote:

spare a thought for poor old Gallop and his metrics chums at FFA. They must be choking on their cornflakes this morning.

We'll still need a crowd for next week's home game against the Wanderers. If we can't get a good one in Wellington for that, then when will we? What would be considered 'good'  in this context, 15,000?

7pm on a Sunday, anything over 8k would be a good crowd.

Well that kick-off time is unfortunate in regard to getting a bumper crowd. I know a family who've faithfully travelled from Palmy and back for most games in Wellington. They'll still make the round-trip but others won't.

I hope Gallop and the bean-counters consider this sort of scheduling. They'll get a good TV audience in Sydney but a poorer crowd in Wellington.

Perhaps it was done deliberately knowing we would get a low crowd and fail one of their metrics? There's another Sunday game coming up later too.
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Lonegunmen wrote:

Blairinho wrote:

RR wrote:

Blairinho wrote:

spare a thought for poor old Gallop and his metrics chums at FFA. They must be choking on their cornflakes this morning.

We'll still need a crowd for next week's home game against the Wanderers. If we can't get a good one in Wellington for that, then when will we? What would be considered 'good'  in this context, 15,000?

7pm on a Sunday, anything over 8k would be a good crowd.

Well that kick-off time is unfortunate in regard to getting a bumper crowd. I know a family who've faithfully travelled from Palmy and back for most games in Wellington. They'll still make the round-trip but others won't.

I hope Gallop and the bean-counters consider this sort of scheduling. They'll get a good TV audience in Sydney but a poorer crowd in Wellington.

Perhaps it was done deliberately knowing we would get a low crowd and fail one of their metrics? There's another Sunday game coming up later too.

Except for the fact that we only have 4 Sunday night matches this season which I don't think is too many compared to often in the past and we play more away games than home games on Sundays.

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The hapless performance on Saturday night by A-League whipping boys Central Coast Mariners, who lost 8-2 at home to a mid-table Wellington Phoenix, is a direct product of a closed league in which failure has little on-field consequence.

A-League must open its closed shop to stop future debacles

Whipping boys again.

Marquee
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Colvinator wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Blairinho wrote:

RR wrote:

Blairinho wrote:

spare a thought for poor old Gallop and his metrics chums at FFA. They must be choking on their cornflakes this morning.

We'll still need a crowd for next week's home game against the Wanderers. If we can't get a good one in Wellington for that, then when will we? What would be considered 'good'  in this context, 15,000?

7pm on a Sunday, anything over 8k would be a good crowd.

Well that kick-off time is unfortunate in regard to getting a bumper crowd. I know a family who've faithfully travelled from Palmy and back for most games in Wellington. They'll still make the round-trip but others won't.

I hope Gallop and the bean-counters consider this sort of scheduling. They'll get a good TV audience in Sydney but a poorer crowd in Wellington.

Perhaps it was done deliberately knowing we would get a low crowd and fail one of their metrics? There's another Sunday game coming up later too.

Except for the fact that we only have 4 Sunday night matches this season which I don't think is too many compared to often in the past and we play more away games than home games on Sundays.

Yep thats fine but the problem is the first home game after the team has been away for 7 weeks is on a Sunday at 7 makes it hard for the regional fans. Also none of the Sunday away games have a 7oclock kick off time in Aussie.The Sunday game isnt the problem the kickoff time is the problem.
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ballane wrote:

Colvinator wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Blairinho wrote:

RR wrote:

Blairinho wrote:

spare a thought for poor old Gallop and his metrics chums at FFA. They must be choking on their cornflakes this morning.

We'll still need a crowd for next week's home game against the Wanderers. If we can't get a good one in Wellington for that, then when will we? What would be considered 'good'  in this context, 15,000?

7pm on a Sunday, anything over 8k would be a good crowd.

Well that kick-off time is unfortunate in regard to getting a bumper crowd. I know a family who've faithfully travelled from Palmy and back for most games in Wellington. They'll still make the round-trip but others won't.

I hope Gallop and the bean-counters consider this sort of scheduling. They'll get a good TV audience in Sydney but a poorer crowd in Wellington.

Perhaps it was done deliberately knowing we would get a low crowd and fail one of their metrics? There's another Sunday game coming up later too.

Except for the fact that we only have 4 Sunday night matches this season which I don't think is too many compared to often in the past and we play more away games than home games on Sundays.

Yep thats fine but the problem is the first home game after the team has been away for 7 weeks is on a Sunday at 7 makes it hard for the regional fans. Also none of the Sunday away games have a 7oclock kick off time in Aussie.The Sunday game isnt the problem the kickoff time is the problem.

There's often games kicking off on Sunday nights at 7pm in Aussie, for example this Sunday in Sydney. We may have more of them at that time due to our timezone. Not an ideal time I agree, but it's about tv audiences.

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Colvinator wrote:

There's often games kicking off on Sunday nights at 7pm in Aussie, for example this Sunday in Sydney. We may have more of them at that time due to our timezone. Not an ideal time I agree, but it's about tv audiences.

If it's about TV audiences they shouldn't be setting metrics around matchday crowds as they are in conflict.

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ClubOranje wrote:

Colvinator wrote:

There's often games kicking off on Sunday nights at 7pm in Aussie, for example this Sunday in Sydney. We may have more of them at that time due to our timezone. Not an ideal time I agree, but it's about tv audiences.

If it's about TV audiences they shouldn't be setting metrics around matchday crowds as they are in conflict.

They want to grow both,they aren't in conflict because of the size of the perceived Phoenix catchment and away games being hard to get too.

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Royz wrote:

Just read Mulvey got the sack for this drumming, was it really his fault or where the Nix just that good?

Patrick need to start looking over his shoulder?

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As we know, this did not happen. Why is Michael Lynch plain lying about the fact that - if the league format doesn't change - our licence will almost certainly be revoked, that the "closed shop" does not apply to the Nix?

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Blew.2 wrote:

The hapless performance on Saturday night by A-League whipping boys Central Coast Mariners, who lost 8-2 at home to a mid-table Wellington Phoenix, is a direct product of a closed league in which failure has little on-field consequence.

A-League must open its closed shop to stop future debacles

Whipping boys again.

Because leagues with pro/rel never have floundering sides that get the odd hammering ???
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Oska wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

The hapless performance on Saturday night by A-League whipping boys Central Coast Mariners, who lost 8-2 at home to a mid-table Wellington Phoenix, is a direct product of a closed league in which failure has little on-field consequence.

A-League must open its closed shop to stop future debacles

Whipping boys again.

Because leagues with pro/rel never have floundering sides that get the odd hammering 

???

Yeah but at least the faces of those sides, tend to change from year to year.

Think in someway a few CCM fans, would almost welcome their team being relegated down to an A2/Championship tier. At least they could attempt to regroup, build a team up from their academy and probably win more games than they lose. I'd put money on, more fans turning up if they were winning the 2nd tier, bidding for promotion, than the current basket case scenario. 

At the moment it looks just like a long gloomy tunnel, unless they can find their 'Rudan'.

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Sancho wrote:

Here's an interesting stat, 2 managers this season have resigned after having lost a game to us. Are we coach killers? If so then who's next?

I'm not sure how to take that. Was/is losing to the Phoenix their 'line in the sand'?!

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Blairinho wrote:

Sancho wrote:

Here's an interesting stat, 2 managers this season have resigned after having lost a game to us. Are we coach killers? If so then who's next?

I'm not sure how to take that. Was/is losing to the Phoenix their 'line in the sand'?!

It used to be for the FOX pundits, but not since one of their own took over the reins at the Nix.  Last Saturday night, not only was Bozza praising our performance but even - shock horror - Robbie Slater managed to gush over Singh, Cacace and Krishna.  And that is a huge difference from them saying that it was all due to Rudan, while we do not deserve a spot anyway.  I have not heard that at all recently.

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Blairinho wrote:

Sancho wrote:

Here's an interesting stat, 2 managers this season have resigned after having lost a game to us. Are we coach killers? If so then who's next?

I'm not sure how to take that. Was/is losing to the Phoenix their 'line in the sand'?!

I guess its all in the timing, I mean its a dirty job but some club has to do it might aswell be us. 

Hey your name isn't Warren by any chance?

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Ryan wrote:

ClubOranje wrote:

Colvinator wrote:

There's often games kicking off on Sunday nights at 7pm in Aussie, for example this Sunday in Sydney. We may have more of them at that time due to our timezone. Not an ideal time I agree, but it's about tv audiences.

If it's about TV audiences they shouldn't be setting metrics around matchday crowds as they are in conflict.

They want to grow both,they aren't in conflict because of the size of the perceived Phoenix catchment and away games being hard to get too.

FFA want late Sunday kick off because it increases TV Audiences. 

Members here are complaining about late Sunday kick off because it reduces the crowd.

If both are correct then they are in conflict.

If they are not in conflict then people should stop bitching about the late Sunday kick off as it obviously does not reduce crowd numbers. 

Can't have It both ways.

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Found it hilarious that at halftime Mulvey was complaining that it was "men against boys" - Mike mate, you literally fielded a team of kids, what did you expect

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Found it hilarious that at halftime Mulvey was complaining that it was "men against boys" - Mike mate, you literally fielded a team of kids, what did you expect

If this was his halftime message now wonder we shipped them four more.

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mrsmiis wrote:

COnst wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

I think Burgess definitely made a claim for a start again next week too, but don't forget that Singh scored two and got two assists. I know it was a blowout but that's still phenomenal. Thought Mandi was a bit poor though

Stopped trying once we were comfortable and it was his lax marking that let us down a few times in the second half, especially Clisby's goal

Maybe Burgess was just knackered.  He hasn't had much game time.  Like others, he should have been subbed at around 60 mins to let the young and keen have a shot.  In retrospect, Rudie will learn from that I'm sure.

Sorry, was meaning Mandi. Thought Burgess was quality, always wanted him to see an extended run!

Yep, totally agree.  Burgess has the mongrel about him, as does the kid Stensness who replaced Mandi.  A replacement I think should have happened around the 60th minute.

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COnst wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

COnst wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

I think Burgess definitely made a claim for a start again next week too, but don't forget that Singh scored two and got two assists. I know it was a blowout but that's still phenomenal. Thought Mandi was a bit poor though

Stopped trying once we were comfortable and it was his lax marking that let us down a few times in the second half, especially Clisby's goal

Maybe Burgess was just knackered.  He hasn't had much game time.  Like others, he should have been subbed at around 60 mins to let the young and keen have a shot.  In retrospect, Rudie will learn from that I'm sure.

Sorry, was meaning Mandi. Thought Burgess was quality, always wanted him to see an extended run!

Yep, totally agree.  Burgess has the mongrel about him, as does the kid Stensness who replaced Mandi.  A replacement I think should have happened around the 60th minute.

I agree Mandi definitely fades after the 60min mark. Thought he had a great first half, and his long passing kept them guessing. Stensness bought alot more energy when he came on.

R21 V Central Coast Mariners | Sat 9th March | 9:50pm | SS4

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