R9 vs Adelaide United | Sun 4 Dec | 9:00pm | SS2

Well it can happen when you reach a certain age unfortunately!

Also, I do not think it is the 'stars' that are the problem.  Some weeks ago I said in jest that we seem to sign on great players and turn them into mediocre plodders. The humour of that sentiment has worn off now but the statement remains true.  One Nix signing remains unfilled - that of a good tactician.

What use would a good tactician be though if those around him dont have the skills to execute anything.

Bottom of league with only 2 NZ Eligible players starting and both of them are ready for Knackers yard......

Ha ha ha ha gotta love this club

Thanks for serving that up when travelling to Adelaide, 'Nix. 

What the fudge was that? Pathetic. 

I get one chance to see them and this is what happens!

Lia GET OUT

Ernie  ... OUT

Parkhouse OFF CORNERS.

Krishna OFF PENALTIES.

Watson MORE GAME TIME.

Tratt FOR CAPTAIN.

Everyone practice passing to the advantage of the yellow kits and everyone learn how to take a bloody penalty!!!!

Can't handle this shark anymore. Wake up Ernie, you may have a false sense of hope and positivity, but most of our fans don't!

Which part??

Piss ant little club 

Really dont want to have to go work after yet another effort like that.Thoroughly sick of getting shark after the Phoenix have yet again failed to show up.I await the excuses for this weeks failures being blamed everywhere but where they should be with anticipation.

I am committed to Hamilton but Auckland, not yet. Is it worth driving all that way to be let down yet again? this next two weeks will see me using up valuable annual leave days to attend. 

Well considering we lost 5 players in the last international window and it would have been 6 if Doyle was fit and we still started NZ eligible players...

Tv 3 news banner "Phoenix lose again 2-0 in Adelaide. After missing penalty". That will help the gate.

What will help the gate is winning. 

TV news banners arent the problem.

This is starting to feel like the Kingz all over again.

Sadly though, some fairweather fans read such banners and make their minds up.

Result could not be worse.

trying to find something good about last night but failing miserably. I dont know if the tactics the manager is playing or the the players not being able to follow instructions that are given, either way its not working. I like Ernie but found myself thinking how he thought Fenton and Ridenton would change the game. Lots of things wrong with the way we played, passing, attitude, not too many ideas, I could go on. Adelaide were bottom of the pile and they played us out of the game, Something has to change

http://www.foxsports.com.au/video/football/a-leagu...

Presser

I try not to go straight into coach blaming (thought it was hilarious the way suddenly some fools starting blaming Hansen after the Ireland loss) but there just seems to be something not right with the formation and the way the players just aren't responding during these types of games. The players don't seem motivated and that is of course their fault as well as Ernie's, but yeah. A formation change must happen now.

Surely time to . Bring back Ritchie.

Our formation hasn't worked for the last three years, but we persist... time for something new.

Hahahahaha ahahaha aha hahha ahaha thats funny

WeeMac didn't play but he was with the squad and in camp as was Fenton.

I wasn't commenting on the performance I was replying to the person who said we had two players eligible for the AWs.

Need to read. JV is right

I can understand those changes. Gui's work rate had dropped and we had replaced a midfielder with an attacker and Ernie probably wanted more work with and without the ball, same with Fenton - fresh legs.

No you need to read, because the exact numbers are not the point, the point was that someone was claiming we only had 2 nz eligible players.

crikey, I think more than a few of us have been thinking that for several years

You really need to read. I'll bold it for you.

We had 3 starting.... Moss, Durante and Barbs.

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Yep - Tratt and possibly Rossi. Outside of them though I'm not so sure.

Only because of injury, we'd have 4 starting if Doyle and WeeMac were fit, and it should be 5 because Moss is clearly the best keeper.

but surely starting means, um, starting

Well then its four because WeeMac and Doyle are both starting players

5 - Moss, Dura, Doyle, WeeMac, Kosta

I would say 7/8 out of the matchday 16 are normally NZ eligible

How many fudgeing Kiwi players started yesteday

3

The end

You aren't taking into consideration the fact that two of the starting players are injured though.

I don't think I want more than that number of AWs anyway, I'd rather NZ players were playing professionally all around the world rather than just at the Phoenix.

The reason Ernie gave for not signing young NZ players is because of the risk of loosing players in international windows which is fair enough. I'd like young kiwis playing for the team, but something has to be done to alleviate the international window situation.

And 3 non-visa, non-NZ players started yesterday