Even with this average performance...no one is talking about lia. Does that means he was better this week? I thought he was good, but needs to play a long ball quicker rather than a short pass to a close defender
Even with this average performance...no one is talking about lia. Does that means he was better this week? I thought he was good, but needs to play a long ball quicker rather than a short pass to a close defender
Even with this average performance...no one is talking about lia. Does that means he was better this week? I thought he was good, but needs to play a long ball quicker rather than a short pass to a close defender
Ricki, is that you?
thought Timms looked good, import or not he did the job, and now looks like a long term option - at least for the remainder of the season, muscat to come back to the DM role partnering Lia with Ridenton to the bench. Whilst I'm sure Carlos wants to play I just don't understand having a tantrum on the sidelines when the coach benches you - especially when you're carrying an injury and playing poorly.
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Even with this average performance...no one is talking about lia. Does that means he was better this week? I thought he was good, but needs to play a long ball quicker rather than a short pass to a close defender
Ricki, is that you?
He was one of our better players on the park yesterday. rarely gave the ball away, played a lovely ball through for Krishna early on that he should have scored from and did some nice work screening the back four, all in a pretty inexperienced midfield
Ummm... what?
Lia was awful i thought, he gave the ball away all too often and lacks a good touch. The amount of backward passing from him is too high, which infloats his passing % and most of the time theyre mishit, putting other players under pressure. I feel like i see this every week though :/
If anything i'd bring in Muscat for Lia - I'd say Lia has played the most minutes this season, and hasn't shown why he should be there in my eyes. Muscat is a good midfielder, he looks the part and plays the part better. Just has to keep his head a little better.
I felt Ridenton showed much more character than Lia, not to mention he's over 10 years younger, and will improve with age. Felt the youth players steped up today, gave it their all. Cunninghams goal was just reward for his attitude to keep at it even though he'd been on the pitch for 85 minutes. Would have liked the substitutions earlier, looked like we only got into the game in the last 15 minutes.
Carlos had a poor game, don't think he should have started, didn't look fully fit. Often caught up field far too often and not tracking back.
Ummm... what?
Lia was awful i thought, he gave the ball away all too often and lacks a good touch. The amount of backward passing from him is too high, which infloats his passing % and most of the time theyre mishit, putting other players under pressure. I feel like i see this every week though :/
Well I count 7 backwards passes out of a 57.
Ummm... what?
Lia was awful i thought, he gave the ball away all too often and lacks a good touch. The amount of backward passing from him is too high, which infloats his passing % and most of the time theyre mishit, putting other players under pressure. I feel like i see this every week though :/
Well I count 7 backwards passes out of a 57.
Even with this average performance...no one is talking about lia. Does that means he was better this week? I thought he was good, but needs to play a long ball quicker rather than a short pass to a close defender
Ricki, is that you?
He was one of our better players on the park yesterday. rarely gave the ball away, played a lovely ball through for Krishna early on that he should have scored from and did some nice work screening the back four, all in a pretty inexperienced midfield
Ummm... what?
Lia was awful i thought, he gave the ball away all too often and lacks a good touch. The amount of backward passing from him is too high, which infloats his passing % and most of the time theyre mishit, putting other players under pressure. I feel like i see this every week though :/
If anything i'd bring in Muscat for Lia - I'd say Lia has played the most minutes this season, and hasn't shown why he should be there in my eyes. Muscat is a good midfielder, he looks the part and plays the part better. Just has to keep his head a little better.
I felt Ridenton showed much more character than Lia, not to mention he's over 10 years younger, and will improve with age. Felt the youth players steped up today, gave it their all. Cunninghams goal was just reward for his attitude to keep at it even though he'd been on the pitch for 85 minutes. Would have liked the substitutions earlier, looked like we only got into the game in the last 15 minutes.
Carlos had a poor game, don't think he should have started, didn't look fully fit. Often caught up field far too often and not tracking back.
Dont think that Manny is a better midfielder than Lia...better defender maybe
" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
Yup. and sometimes you need to recycle ball because it is too compact in an area.
Correction: I think it might be 8. Reckon there is another one in the centre circle.
From some book about football and numbers:
"As soon as data becomes available in any industry, some people will use it – but they often use it wrongly. As the American baseball analyst-turned-master psephologist Nate Silver says of the new Big Data: “Most of the data is just noise, as most of the universe is filled with empty space.” Alex Ferguson, Manchester United’s manager, discovered this after he sold his defender Jaap Stam in 2001 because Stam’s number of tackles was decreasing. Ferguson thought Stam was in decline. Stam went on to play several more years for big clubs.
It turned out that tackles were a poor measure of a defender’s worth: they were just noise. We now know that great defenders such as the Italian Paolo Maldini barely tackle. Maldini stopped attacks from happening by positioning himself to close holes. Yet, as Anderson and Sally point out, that kind of negative event – the attack that doesn’t happen, the dog that doesn’t bark – is often hard to spot in match data. Football statistics tend to focus on things that do happen and, above all, on goals that do get scored."
This is a long winded way of saying that relying on pass data still means Lia is shite.
Has Ernie given up on Brockie as a starting option?....he's given him plenty of chances but it does appear that Boyd and Krishna may be rated higher now.
About ten minutes before the final whistle I was shouting at Ernie to take off Stein and bring on Brockie. Strange, I know.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
From some book about football and numbers:
"As soon as data becomes available in any industry, some people will use it – but they often use it wrongly. As the American baseball analyst-turned-master psephologist Nate Silver says of the new Big Data: “Most of the data is just noise, as most of the universe is filled with empty space.” Alex Ferguson, Manchester United’s manager, discovered this after he sold his defender Jaap Stam in 2001 because Stam’s number of tackles was decreasing. Ferguson thought Stam was in decline. Stam went on to play several more years for big clubs.
It turned out that tackles were a poor measure of a defender’s worth: they were just noise. We now know that great defenders such as the Italian Paolo Maldini barely tackle. Maldini stopped attacks from happening by positioning himself to close holes. Yet, as Anderson and Sally point out, that kind of negative event – the attack that doesn’t happen, the dog that doesn’t bark – is often hard to spot in match data. Football statistics tend to focus on things that do happen and, above all, on goals that do get scored."
This is a long winded way of saying that relying on pass data still means Lia is shite.
So I take it given you mentioned percentages you don't watch the game?
Even with this average performance...no one is talking about lia. Does that means he was better this week? I thought he was good, but needs to play a long ball quicker rather than a short pass to a close defender
Ricki, is that you?
He was one of our better players on the park yesterday. rarely gave the ball away, played a lovely ball through for Krishna early on that he should have scored from and did some nice work screening the back four, all in a pretty inexperienced midfield
Ummm... what?
Lia was awful i thought, he gave the ball away all too often and lacks a good touch. The amount of backward passing from him is too high, which infloats his passing % and most of the time theyre mishit, putting other players under pressure. I feel like i see this every week though :/
If anything i'd bring in Muscat for Lia - I'd say Lia has played the most minutes this season, and hasn't shown why he should be there in my eyes. Muscat is a good midfielder, he looks the part and plays the part better. Just has to keep his head a little better.
I felt Ridenton showed much more character than Lia, not to mention he's over 10 years younger, and will improve with age. Felt the youth players steped up today, gave it their all. Cunninghams goal was just reward for his attitude to keep at it even though he'd been on the pitch for 85 minutes. Would have liked the substitutions earlier, looked like we only got into the game in the last 15 minutes.
Carlos had a poor game, don't think he should have started, didn't look fully fit. Often caught up field far too often and not tracking back.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
From some book about football and numbers:
"As soon as data becomes available in any industry, some people will use it – but they often use it wrongly. As the American baseball analyst-turned-master psephologist Nate Silver says of the new Big Data: “Most of the data is just noise, as most of the universe is filled with empty space.” Alex Ferguson, Manchester United’s manager, discovered this after he sold his defender Jaap Stam in 2001 because Stam’s number of tackles was decreasing. Ferguson thought Stam was in decline. Stam went on to play several more years for big clubs.
It turned out that tackles were a poor measure of a defender’s worth: they were just noise. We now know that great defenders such as the Italian Paolo Maldini barely tackle. Maldini stopped attacks from happening by positioning himself to close holes. Yet, as Anderson and Sally point out, that kind of negative event – the attack that doesn’t happen, the dog that doesn’t bark – is often hard to spot in match data. Football statistics tend to focus on things that do happen and, above all, on goals that do get scored."
This is a long winded way of saying that relying on pass data still means Lia is shite.
So I take it given you mentioned percentages you don't watch the game?
From some book about football and numbers:
"As soon as data becomes available in any industry, some people will use it – but they often use it wrongly. As the American baseball analyst-turned-master psephologist Nate Silver says of the new Big Data: “Most of the data is just noise, as most of the universe is filled with empty space.” Alex Ferguson, Manchester United’s manager, discovered this after he sold his defender Jaap Stam in 2001 because Stam’s number of tackles was decreasing. Ferguson thought Stam was in decline. Stam went on to play several more years for big clubs.
It turned out that tackles were a poor measure of a defender’s worth: they were just noise. We now know that great defenders such as the Italian Paolo Maldini barely tackle. Maldini stopped attacks from happening by positioning himself to close holes. Yet, as Anderson and Sally point out, that kind of negative event – the attack that doesn’t happen, the dog that doesn’t bark – is often hard to spot in match data. Football statistics tend to focus on things that do happen and, above all, on goals that do get scored."
This is a long winded way of saying that relying on pass data still means Lia is shite.
Ok, next time you attempt to use any statistics to back your point of view or illuminate a point; I'm just going to re-post this and counter your argument without any explanation or reasoning.
Just remember Perth had nothing to loss by pushing forward and closing our players down with 3 or 4 player on defence sometimes. Bottom is bottom.
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Ridenton will be a really good player. In the future. When he's a grown up.
Grumpy old bastard alert
So I take it given you mentioned percentages you don't watch the game?
I only said how certain passes he makes would inflate his passing percentage, i.e. making the stat irrelevant. I'm not trying to argue with you, i just feel that Lia isn't good enough to be in the starting eleven. Thats my opinion. What, in your opinion does Lia bring to the team?
And yes, i do watch the games.
Although I think Ridenton is a better player than Hicks. Doesnt appear to give the ball away as much or as easily.
Timmins was grindingly average. No pace and no quality delivery. Nothing to get excited about.
Losing Riera was a blow but there just a little bit too many players of average quality in the midfield. Hicks isn't good enough to do anything other than flicker occasionally and while I loved Ridenton's performance he's still 17 and there's rough edges that come with that. I'd still play him until the end of the season because I think he'll be a big player for us next year.
Overall that was a performance that could have earned us three points but in the end we absolutely lacked the quality to convert chances. Just relying on too many players who aren't good enough.
Cunningham showed a real desire to win which I really liked, if we'd got three points it would just about have been down to him and him alone
Normo's coming home
I was really disappointed by Lia last weekend but thought he had a decent game yesterday. Where he gets really exposed though is against a pacy midfield which wasn't much of an issue for Perth with Burns/Griffiths etc. But as others have pointed out he's the best of what we've got to work with so not much point hypothesising about what could be.
Timmins was grindingly average. No pace and no quality delivery. Nothing to get excited about.
Losing Riera was a blow but there just a little bit too many players of average quality in the midfield. Hicks isn't good enough to do anything other than flicker occasionally and while I loved Ridenton's performance he's still 17 and there's rough edges that come with that. I'd still play him until the end of the season because I think he'll be a big player for us next year.
Overall that was a performance that could have earned us three points but in the end we absolutely lacked the quality to convert chances. Just relying on too many players who aren't good enough.
Cunningham showed a real desire to win which I really liked, if we'd got three points it would just about have been down to him and him alone
Timmins was grindingly average. No pace and no quality delivery. Nothing to get excited about.
Losing Riera was a blow but there just a little bit too many players of average quality in the midfield. Hicks isn't good enough to do anything other than flicker occasionally and while I loved Ridenton's performance he's still 17 and there's rough edges that come with that. I'd still play him until the end of the season because I think he'll be a big player for us next year.
Overall that was a performance that could have earned us three points but in the end we absolutely lacked the quality to convert chances. Just relying on too many players who aren't good enough.
Cunningham showed a real desire to win which I really liked, if we'd got three points it would just about have been down to him and him alone
Of course he played like an NZFC centre back at left-back, that's what he is. I just don't see why he was highlighted as a positive from the game - he did fine, did a job etc. Don't particularly want to see him there again. As Smithy said a few pages back, it's meagre pickings if fourth choice in a position doing ok is the highlight of the match for us. Fullbacks are an important attacking outlet for us and we need pace and penetration there.
What's the view on Krishna? Praise for getting into position to take chances or criticism for missing the chances. I really can't make my mind up
Final point on Sunday - I thought from our side it was a game littered with small mistakes based on a lack of technical ability. Passes were behind a man when we were on the break or had an extra man in attack, an underhit pass to the wide man when we needed to move it quickly, poor touch allowing the defence to re-set, final ball was never quite where the man would have wanted it, bad touch slowing things down when we looked like we could attack down a particular side. It's why I think it looked like we deserved three points but at the same time we didn't create a lot of really good chances. Contributed to the "blah" factor in the whole game
Normo's coming home
Grumpy old bastard alert
Huge blah factor both on pitch and in zone.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Timmins was grindingly average. No pace and no quality delivery. Nothing to get excited about.
he put in the cross that Cunningham butchered.
Timmins was grindingly average. No pace and no quality delivery. Nothing to get excited about.
he put in the cross that Cunningham butchered.
After watching Muscat's debut vs Danny Allsopp I was convinced he'd never play for the Nix again.
After watching Muscat's debut vs Danny Allsopp I was convinced he'd never play for the Nix again.
Not worried if Timmins isnt an overlapping full back, if he is doing his job and defending properly, then hes done very well.
Not worried if Timmins isnt an overlapping full back, if he is doing his job and defending properly, then hes done very well.
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He has tended to play with 1 fullback further advanced than the other as far as my viewing has gone.
Timmins was grindingly average. No pace and no quality delivery. Nothing to get excited about.
Losing Riera was a blow but there just a little bit too many players of average quality in the midfield. Hicks isn't good enough to do anything other than flicker occasionally and while I loved Ridenton's performance he's still 17 and there's rough edges that come with that. I'd still play him until the end of the season because I think he'll be a big player for us next year.
Overall that was a performance that could have earned us three points but in the end we absolutely lacked the quality to convert chances. Just relying on too many players who aren't good enough.
Cunningham showed a real desire to win which I really liked, if we'd got three points it would just about have been down to him and him alone
Couldnt agree more
Timmins was grindingly average. No pace and no quality delivery. Nothing to get excited about.
Losing Riera was a blow but there just a little bit too many players of average quality in the midfield. Hicks isn't good enough to do anything other than flicker occasionally and while I loved Ridenton's performance he's still 17 and there's rough edges that come with that. I'd still play him until the end of the season because I think he'll be a big player for us next year.
Overall that was a performance that could have earned us three points but in the end we absolutely lacked the quality to convert chances. Just relying on too many players who aren't good enough.
Cunningham showed a real desire to win which I really liked, if we'd got three points it would just about have been down to him and him alone
Fullbacks are an important attacking outlet for us and we need pace and penetration there.
What like Lochead , Caira and Muscat you mean?
I'm not sure any of our fullbacks are anything to get particularly excited about.
But they've all done a fair job. Including Timmins. He did set up a peach of a scoring opportunity on debut...so he had a bit of go-forward.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.