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FFA vs The Fans: the thread of continued incompetence

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over 10 years ago

Groff wrote:

ballane wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

ballane wrote:

As an aside how do you get the cods at the FFA to stop sending you emails about the bloody soccerpoodles or whatever they are called.

Unsubscribe (usually a llink or button at the bottom of email).

I stopped the emails a while ago.

Yeah thought i had as well only to have one turn up again today the first for bloody ages.

They must have lifted your ban!

#progress

Bloody hell i didnt even lodge an appeal though.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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over 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

We had a list of six to try and find two out of but due to various commitments (work, whanau, choir, Ecuador)

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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over 10 years ago

Footage just in of the breakfast meeting at the Gathering of the Clans.

Gathering Of The Clans

We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix

And this is our Home

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over 10 years ago

It was reported that the costs or some of the costs for getting representatives to attend [I think Nix and Perth were mentioned] were being met by a third party. Can you tell us who that is please?

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over 10 years ago

No. They want to be nameless.

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over 10 years ago
Dave Richardson has landed safely in Sydney. It then took less than 4 minutes for Hard News to remind him to bring back Krispy Kremes. #metrics

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 10 years ago
Can anyone clarify for me is the chairman meeting (happening before the fans/FFA meeting) a routine meeting or a meeting as a result of the protests?
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over 10 years ago

It was reported that the costs or some of the costs for getting representatives to attend [I think Nix and Perth were mentioned] were being met by a third party. Can you tell us who that is please?

I thought it was you?

I like tautologies because I like them.
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over 10 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

No. They want to be nameless.

Must be "Not A Striker"!!

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 10 years ago

It was reported that the costs or some of the costs for getting representatives to attend [I think Nix and Perth were mentioned] were being met by a third party. Can you tell us who that is please?

I have it on good authority that it was Drovma Karavaninadic, the well known RBB fix it man!

(My sauces shall remain nameles though)

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And this is our Home

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over 10 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

No. They want to be nameless.

I take it that the YF Elite know the identity? Might not be the case here but you need to be careful who you accept help from, sometimes the provision of money can result in poor decision making.
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over 10 years ago

ballane wrote:

As an aside how do you get the cods at the FFA to stop sending you emails about the bloody soccerpoodles or whatever they are called.

I just marked them as spam, and after a while the Socceroos ones went straight to my spam but the A-League ones continued to go to my inbox
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over 10 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

No. They want to be nameless.

I take it that the YF Elite know the identity? Might not be the case here but you need to be careful who you accept help from, sometimes the provision of money can result in poor decision making.
Ohhh my sides! THAT is post of the year, right there! Close the competition RIGHT NOW!

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 10 years ago

OK, genius, explain to those of us with lesser insight than yourself.

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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

I would, if I was allowed to. Trust me, you're funny even when you're not meaning to. As Dale said, the organiser/funder doesn't want to be identified, so we have to respect that.

Rest assured, the Yellow Fever thought about whether we could trust the party offering to help get our representative to Sydney and decided we had nothing to worry about. Good point though.


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 10 years ago

That's a cop out mate, explain your comment, not Dale's.

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over 10 years ago
I did. I said "Trust me, you're funny even when you're not meaning to."

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 10 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

No. They want to be nameless.

I take it that the YF Elite know the identity? Might not be the case here but you need to be careful who you accept help from, sometimes the provision of money can result in poor decision making.

The person asked to remain nameless and discussion was had around us attending. The decision wasn't made lightly but thought best to have representation at the meeting. The person who donated the money to the supporters to attend did so with no provision on the use of it.

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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over 10 years ago

I can think of a good example. Fox threw millions at the FFA and they have managed to fudge it up.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 10 years ago
Napier Phoenix- your tinfoil hat must be slipping off. What the fudge has it got to do with any of us, who the anonymous financier is?

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over 10 years ago

Yakcall wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

No. They want to be nameless.

I take it that the YF Elite know the identity? Might not be the case here but you need to be careful who you accept help from, sometimes the provision of money can result in poor decision making.

The person asked to remain nameless and discussion was had around us attending. The decision wasn't made lightly but thought best to have representation at the meeting. The person who donated the money to the supporters to attend did so with no provision on the use of it.

Some irony there

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over 10 years ago

hepatitis wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

No. They want to be nameless.

I take it that the YF Elite know the identity? Might not be the case here but you need to be careful who you accept help from, sometimes the provision of money can result in poor decision making.

The person asked to remain nameless and discussion was had around us attending. The decision wasn't made lightly but thought best to have representation at the meeting. The person who donated the money to the supporters to attend did so with no provision on the use of it.

Some irony there

Lol, sorry yes apart from the money be used for the person to attend the meeting. No provision for what the person has to do or say at the meeting itself.

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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over 10 years ago

Kiwi Hatter wrote:
Napier Phoenix- your tinfoil hat must be slipping off. What the fudge has it got to do with any of us, who the anonymous financier is?
I don't know where you have been living for the last 100 years but there are many examples of people or organisations with ulterior motives funding others to achieve their own ends. Often those being funded are unaware that they are being used or even understand what the ultimate motive is of their 'wishing to remain anonymous' benefactor.

I'm not saying this is what is happening here but the reaction of the likes of you and Brandon would give me little comfort that [if you guys were involved in the decision making process] you were going in with eyes wide open and not being dazzled by the baubles of office so to speak.

A possible scenario, for instance, [and I over-dramatise for effect] might be that the the benefactor is a heavy financier of ISIS and has a strategy of using infiltrators to attend large sporting events with suicide bombers. Again I state that this is a bit dramatic but in light of recent world events, there is probably more of a ring of truth to this than what we previously would have believed.

My original point has not been lost on most [judging by their replies] but for you to go off into a tinfoil hat rave is pretty naive. I made a simple statement and you have immediately jumped to some form of imaginary defence of the YF decision makers 

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over 10 years ago

The responses to NP's post is a bit harsh.  When anyone is sponsoring anything "anonymously" then people have a right to be a little bit suspicious. Just looking at american politics with anonymous funding for candidates is known to be very self serving.

But in this instance I can certainly appreciate the donor may want to be anonymous if they don't want to piss off the FFA, or even their sponsors.  Whether its clubs funding it, sponsors, companies or parties with close associations with A-League sponsors.  Any of those parties would have good reason to not want to look like they are undermining the FFA, the comp, the teams or the major sponsors.

I think we just have to trust that the YF Elite have thought it through and know their own ethical stance.  But The YF Elite could be a bit more courteous to people who raise questions around it.

Though I am looking forward to VB presents Yellow Fever vs VB presents the RBB in future games :P

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over 10 years ago

Actually, I am with NP on this, although perhaps not quite as far as the jihadi bride scenario mentioned by him.

This works like so.  If someone (formally) unrelated to the process provides funding (attendance, flights, whatever) and wants to remain nameless there is always the risk they will call in a favour one day, hence the need for those benefiting from the largesse to be clear if the "no strings attached" proviso applies.  

Some benefactors want to remain anonymous simply to stay out of the limelight or for other sensible reasons, so if YF Central Committee is happy with the "no strings attached, anonymity preferred" funding scenario then I am happy with that.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

Our travel was not financed by any 'mystery' third party.  

A third party who is reasonably well known to the Australian supporters groups is facilitating the meeting.  They are not anonymous to those attending and may even be attending but do not want the whole world to know they are involved.

Less tinfoil hattery please and Matt and Brandon take a deep breath.  If you go off at every bit off foolishness your hearts won't last past 50.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 10 years ago

It's Nick Meredith, isn't it? It is, eh? It is.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 10 years ago

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

I dont give a rats arse where it comes from, but if the "YF Exec" had to think about accepting it, I'm sure they made the right decision. If they didn't, & we all get blown up at the 12 Pubs of Lochhead, C'est La Vie!!! 

Better be after we've done the 12th.  Don't think i could face the shame of not seeing it out.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

I dont give a rats arse where it comes from, but if the "YF Exec" had to think about accepting it, I'm sure they made the right decision. If they didn't, & we all get blown up at the 12 Pubs of Lochhead, C'est La Vie!!! 

Better be after we've done the 12th.  Don't think i could face the shame of not seeing it out.

What on earth are you replying to???????   

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over 10 years ago

If anyone can guarantee we're getting blown up at the 12 Pubs, I won't waste valuable drinking money on a return flight then

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 10 years ago

It's either kim dot com or Shanghai Pengxin isn't it?

I know it wasn't me because you refused my condition that you all sell your houses to me at above market prices.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 10 years ago

Best. Off-season. Ever.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

Tin foil hats actually amplify certain frequencies of brainwaves, thereby making it easier for the illuminati/reptilians to read your thoughts. The whole idea was spread by them to make their jobs easier. #wakeupsheeple 

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/09/...

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 10 years ago

Plus you can use old hats to wrap up your chicken and bake them in the oven.

#betterlivingeveryone

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Less tinfoil hattery please 

Less is MORE  !!!!!!

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And this is our Home

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over 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Less tinfoil hattery please and Matt and Brandon take a deep breath.  If you go off at every bit off foolishness your hearts won't last past 50.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 10 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Hard News wrote:

Less tinfoil hattery please and Matt and Brandon take a deep breath.  If you go off at every bit off foolishness your hearts won't last past 50.

Hard News, young? Not even compared to Yoda.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 10 years ago

We should ask Ljubo Milicevic where the money is coming from. He is linked to the underworld and he knows people and they tell him things.


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This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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over 10 years ago

I heard from a good sauce that the secret benefactor is Frank Lowy. Since that fall on his head he has become very confused and actually thinks that this meeting has been called to throw the Phoenix out of the A League. The YF Elite know this and have conspired to keep his identity secret in case it blows their chances of a  night of debauchery up at the Bourbon and Beefsteak.

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over 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Our travel was not financed by any 'mystery' third party.  

A third party who is reasonably well known to the Australian supporters groups is facilitating the meeting.  They are not anonymous to those attending and may even be attending but do not want the whole world to know they are involved.

Less tinfoil hattery please and Matt and Brandon take a deep breath.  If you go off at every bit off foolishness your hearts won't last past 50.

But to the average Yellow Feverite isn't an anonymous third party, a mystery third party?  Any anonymous third party is a mystery third party to the people who don't know right?

Its not tin foil hattery to ask about the nature of the association of an anonymous funder.  

Also isn't the meeting because the fans aren't being treated like stakeholders and are just being spoken down to like they aren't even worthy of thought?

So isn't that what Brandon did by being condescending to someone asking a question the EXACT same thing?

I know some of us aren't quite as worthy as some of you for being members of the fever, but a little less condescension would be appreciated.

Rather than saying "Ohhh my sides! THAT is post of the year, right there! Close the competition RIGHT NOW!" he could have said something like, "its someone who has worked with supporter groups in the past.  while we would like to be transparent we have to respect the persons right to be anonymous.  We did have discussions around it and decided it was better to be there than not be and we will be careful to ensure that our judgement wont be affected by it" Or something like that.

I'm very rarely on NP's side but if you are going to do the thing that we are pissed off the FFA are doing in ignoring key stakeholders then thats a bit shark.

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