Not sure about others but its the continual inconsistencies with the Refs rulings that gets up my nose more than anything.
Lets face it Dura got booked on Sunday so i guess we can look forward to Kewell getting booked the next time he throws one of his many tantrums.Yeah right.
Siggy nearly gets belted through the hoardings nothing ,2 minutes later surprise surprise we get a card.
Like FIFA the FFA continues to be soft on diving and descent aprt the very occasional action just to shut people up for while.
Like FIFA the FFA continues to be soft on diving and descent aprt the very occasional action (as long as it's not Harry) just to shut people up for while.
Fixed.
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Like FIFA the FFA continues to be soft on diving and descent aprt the very occasional action (as long as it's not Harry) just to shut people up for while.
Fixed.
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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I hope when Paul Ifill retires he goes straight into sorting out the refereeing for this league. I remember his sentiments when he first joint the league was that the playing standards were good, the refs not so much.
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The desent thing in this league (and others) is a disgrace. If you f'ed and blinded at a Capital ref like these supposed 'professionals' do you'd spend more time in the changing rooms than feverish at the Hilton petone.
Wish they would sort it out. If I see Harry or Jacob Burns tell the ref to f**k off one more time and watch the ref walk away I may just explode (and that would leave a BIG crater).
Hard News2012-02-14 17:04:04
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What's desent?
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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The desent thing in this league (and others) is a disgrace. If you f'ed and blinded at a Capital ref like these supposed 'professionals' do you'd spend more time in the changing rooms than feverish at the Hilton petone.
Wish they would sort it out. If I see Harry or Jacob Burns tell the ref to f**k off one more time and watch the ref walk away I may just explode (and that would leave a BIG crater).
As a Capital ref I can confirm this.
Capital 5 players behave better than A league playerswith regards to dissent and feverish does spend alot of time not playing the Hilton petone.
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What's desent?
Fat fingers.
...and GGF
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Refs should be made to do press interviews after the game. It would help with the decisions they made - if they say "where I was standing it looked like the player played the ball, so I did not award the penalty" it would take all the sting out of the situation. Also, it would allow them to answer questions like "Wayne Rooney told you to 'f**k off you f**king prick' - is that not dissent?"
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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At the risk of playing devils advocate.....
Can I suggest that if Durante knew he was sitting on 4 yellows with one game to go until the automatic suspension gets put back and a tough road home to the playoffs then perhaps this was one game he probably should have kept his mouth shut and arms to himself?
Can I suggest that if Durante knew he was sitting on 4 yellows with one game to go until the automatic suspension gets put back and a tough road home to the playoffs then perhaps this was one game he probably should have kept his mouth shut and arms to himself?
It is usually not what you say but how you say it.
But the referee said to Durante that it wasn't what he said, it was how he was gesturing with his arms that got him the booking. According to Jared Gillet "It just looks bad"
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Showing dissent by word or action, is how the offence is described in the Laws Of The Game
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I think that the biggest problem with the refs is that they are basically unfit and therefore they are unable to keep up with play. Because of this lack of fitness they can not keep up and end up making calls from up 20 odd meters away. This lack of fitness also means that they are going to be in the wrong place, and then make a call on what they think they see. Added to that, is that most of the refs seem to be unable/can not "read" the game. Bear mind that over the last 2 seasons or so the game has got quicker and the refs can not keep up.
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I think that the biggest problem with the refs is that they are basically unfit and therefore they are unable to keep up with play. Because of this lack of fitness they can not keep up and end up making calls from up 20 odd meters away. This lack of fitness also means that they are going to be in the wrong place, and then make a call on what they think they see.� Added to that, is that most of the refs seem to be unable/can not "read" the game. Bear mind that over the last 2 seasons or so the game has got quicker and the refs can not keep up.
There are some good points there. Have noticed that the refs seem to get in the way of players/passes. Even in the EPL. Not saying that they should have played football at a high level, but would be better if they have played the game.I suspect a lot have just read the rule book.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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I think that the biggest problem with the refs is that they are basically unfit and therefore they are unable to keep up with play....
Bear mind that over the last 2 seasons or so the game has got quicker and the refs can not keep up.
Bear mind that over the last 2 seasons or so the game has got quicker and the refs can not keep up.
This.
I am going to struggle at (junior) Grade 12 this year.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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So. Jared Gillet, the Brisbane ref gets Brisbane again this week. Someone must want to make sure they get a home final.
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I see the Melbourne Heart player who got 2 yellows last week is out for this weeks match...another top decision from a ref....who can't handle the pressure
...think he missed a penatly the week before too [ Ifill ]...cracking standard are SOME OF THESE REFS 
...think he missed a penatly the week before too [ Ifill ]...cracking standard are SOME OF THESE REFS
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So. Jared Gillet, the Brisbane ref gets Brisbane again this week. Someone must want to make sure they get a home final.
Yeah ..Asian betting syndicates/mobsters with influence in all the right places... or just Aussies taking care of the biz?
Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!
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So. Jared Gillet, the Brisbane ref gets Brisbane again this week. Someone must want to make sure they get a home final.
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why's Peter O'Leary not reffing A-League games anymore?
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why's Peter O'Leary not reffing A-League games anymore?
We gave him so much s**t he pulled the plug maybe? Bad enough when your" home" crowd's hard on you.. what was it like when he reffed in Aussie?
Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!
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So. Jared Gillet, the Brisbane ref gets Brisbane again this week. Someone must want to make sure they get a home final.
I made a comment on Twitter about Brisbane getting Jarred Gillett for the rest of their games after the game on Sunday
Also, for the stat masters: http://www.ultimatealeague.com/referee_detail.php?referee_id=29
Ard Righ2012-02-16 11:14:34
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10785423A-League defends referee standards
The head of the A-League's referees is defending the standard of
officiating in this year's competition.
The Wellington Phoenix have criticised the refereeing in the league
following the club's loss to the Brisbane Roar.
Director of referees Mark Shield says while there's always room for
improvement, the officiating has been very good this year.
Shield says they have someone monitoring every single refereeing
decision and 93 per cent of their decisions have been correct.
Shield says they're currently reviewing the Phoenix-Roar match and he's
open to talk to the Phoenix once it's completed.
Phoenix skipper Andrew Durante has questioned why he was yellow carded
for dissent when he wasn't abusive towards the linesman.
Shield says the captain doesn't necessarily have any special privileges
to question an official's decision.
He says while they haven't reviewed that particular incident yet, if
there are visible signs of dissent the referee is supposed to take
action.
Not sure if this has been said- but a captain needs to be able to explain to his team why and how the officials are officiating. Normally understood.
It is completely inconsistent across the A-league- players swearing at the referees and it has a massive and unfair effect of seeing the player banned for a game.
Should and must be challenged. Wasn't rude, didn't swear at the officials like many players in this league who have escaped sanction.
Would any other ref given the same set of standards have taken the same action?
I haven't seen it in the A-league up to now. This gives the impression of an unfair decision especially to hurt the Phoenix and instead of increasing the credibility of the officials seriously incenses fans and players...
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Should and must be appealed
Nor sure if you can appeal against a yellow card. Most leagues, you can only appeal a red.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Reading these comments is it any wonder that there is a huge shortage of referees?
Everyone says that they accept referees make mistkes: until they actually make one then all hell breaks loose.
Why would anyone want to spend their Saturday afternoons being abused by the likes of you lot?
The referee last Sunday made a few decisions I didn't agree with. His general performance was at least as good as that of the home team which was also poor.
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I think that the biggest problem with the refs is that they are basically unfit and therefore they are unable to keep up with play. Because of this lack of fitness they can not keep up and end up making calls from up 20 odd meters away. This lack of fitness also means that they are going to be in the wrong place, and then make a call on what they think they see.� Added to that, is that most of the refs seem to be unable/can not "read" the game. Bear mind that over the last 2 seasons or so the game has got quicker and the refs can not keep up.
There are some good points there. Have noticed that the refs seem to get in the way of players/passes. Even in the EPL. Not saying that they should have played football at a high level, but would be better if they have played the game.I suspect a lot have just read the rule book.
i have always thought the refs in the a-league are not close enough to the game they always seem to be 20 or 30 yards away or even more when there is a fast break.not sure it is becuase they are not fit enough i think it may be the way they are trained and told to ref games and they rely on there assistants way too much.
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Actually mac tere are a number of comments in here stating that the referees in local football wouldn't put up with what A-League referees let go (particularly in the dissent space). I think there is an expectation that as these officials are at a senior level they should have less of an impact on the game and get the basics right and quite frankly they don't.
In the last fortnight 3 or 4 games have been significantly impacted by refereeing decisions that were clearly wrong. That shouldn't be accepted by the FFA but it is. The FFA should also be encouraging the officials to clampdown on the unacceptable behaviour of players towards the officials. In particular the non-stop swearing at them seen every week.
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Should and must be appealed
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Nor sure if you can appeal against a yellow card. Most leagues, you can only appeal a red.
Even if you can, you can only appeal against mistaken identity or wrongful application of the law. Neither apply in this case.
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Should and must be appealed
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Nor sure if you can appeal against a yellow card. Most leagues, you can only appeal a red.
Even if you can, you can only appeal against mistaken identity or wrongful application of the law. Neither apply in this case.
Yep, like Tim Brown's second yellow in the game where he and Ward got sent. The decision was correct in the rules but woeful in the context of consistency of decision making throughout the league.
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who is this Alan Milliner guy who's reffing the heart v gcu game? have we had him before?
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news-display/Hyundai-ALeague-Week-20-match-officials/45382
Find out who's taking charge of your team'sgame this weekend with the match officials for Week 20 of the Hyundai A-League.
Friday,
17 February 2012
Melbourne Heart v Gold Coast United
AAMI
Park 8:00pm AEDT
Referee: Alan Milliner
Assistant referees: Shaun
Evans, George Lackrindis
Saturday, 18 February 2012
Central
Coast Mariners v Wellington Phoenix
Bluetongue Stadium 5:30pm
AEDT
Referee: Strebre Delovski
Assistant referees: Paul
Centrangolo, Lance Greenshields
Saturday, 18 February 2012
Brisbane
Roar v Melbourne Victory
Suncorp Stadium 6:45pm local (7:45pm
AEDT)
Referee: Jarred Gillett
Assistant referees: Dennis SIlk,
David Walsh
Saturday, 18 February 2012
Perth Glory v
Newcastle Jets
nib Stadium 7:00pm local (10:00pm AEDT)
Referee:
Ben Williams
Assistant referees: Joe Fusari, Matthew Cream
Sunday,
19 February 2012
Adelaide United v Sydney FC
Hindmarsh
Stadium 6:30 pm (local) 4:30pm AEDT
Referee: Kris Griffiths-Jones
Assistant
referees: Matthew Cheeseman, Daniel Goodwin
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Happy that Delovski is reffing the CCM v Nix game. He seems to let the game flow a lot more than others.Quite even handed in most games I've seen him ref.Hope he continues to be so for this one too.
RedGed2012-02-16 17:58:31
RedGed2012-02-16 17:58:31
Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!
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Don't have too many bad words to say about Delovski either. Every time i've seen him ref he's been very accurate and consistant.
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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who is this Alan Milliner guy who's reffing the heart v gcu game? have we had him before?
4 times:
http://www.ultimatealeague.com/referee_detail.php?referee_id=21
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Should and must be appealed
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Nor sure if you can appeal against a yellow card. Most leagues, you can only appeal a red.
Even if you can, you can only appeal against mistaken identity or wrongful application of the law. Neither apply in this case.
The affect is the same as a red- a weeks suspension. And as for wrongful application...well...see HN comment above, the complete inconsistency is galling.
Though Brown, on the other hand was lucky not to have been booked already I guess!
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Happy that Delovski is reffing the CCM v Nix game. He seems to let the game flow a lot more than others.Quite even handed in most games I've seen him ref.Hope he continues to be so for this one too.
I hope he has a good game too, and doesnt have any human errors. No doubt he will get blasted here if he does.
I agree about the dissent comments, I would like to see less from the players. Would be good to have the finals series better reffed in this regard. It is the showcase after all.
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Should and must be appealed
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Nor sure if you can appeal against a yellow card. Most leagues, you can only appeal a red.
Even if you can, you can only appeal against mistaken identity or wrongful application of the law. Neither apply in this case.
The affect is the same as a red- a weeks suspension. And as for wrongful application...well...see HN comment above, the complete inconsistency is galling.
Yeah, but the question is not in how the law is applied generally, but in this specific case. Can Durante's actions be interpreted as dissent by action? Yes. Is this punishable with a yellow card under the LotG? Yes.
So no wrongful application of the law occurred, and the basis for an appeal are pretty much non-existent.
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But last night I was watching a replay of the Zenith - Benfica game and I saw players clearly showing dissent by action. The offcials didn't do anything about though. I don't understand??
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Yay, we've got Streb. I think hands down he is the most fair and consistent ref.
He's not perfect by any means, but i'm less likely to go batsh*t at his calls.
RESPECT.
He's not perfect by any means, but i'm less likely to go batsh*t at his calls.
RESPECT.
Yellow Whever Whanganui
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But last night I was watching a replay of the Zenith - Benfica game and I saw players clearly showing dissent by action. The offcials didn't do anything about though. I don't understand??
Maybe the referee just has the different standard of applying the law. Or he thought that they were just trying to keep themselves warm, it was -15 after all. Who knows.
Doesn't change the Durante situation one little bit.
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