Refs, a different point of view.....
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Now I have to be very careful about how I say this, but I had a bit of a revelation at the weekend aided by a very good friend of mine.
My friend and I talked the week before about the respect referees are shown in rugby compared to football, my view has always been along the lines of my posting on this subject on this forum (Rugby has it right).
After the Hurricanes game on Saturday night, when in the last five minutes the ref seemed to lose the plot, I sat there glowing in my own self righteousness as the Hurricanes players accepted the decision, and acted in a very respectful way. The captain in the post match interview refused to criticise the ref and even said �he had a great game�.
�There�s the difference between rugby and football I was talking about the other night� I gloated to my mate.
�That�s what�s wrong with rugby� he answered straight back �If that were football and he was the captain the team I support, I�d be pissed off. He�s showing no passion, he�s not allowed to show any emotion. How can you expect the supporters to get behind a sport that regulates players emotions�
So I thought about it I kind of agree with him. So I was thinking that maybe a new rule this season could be that only the Captain is allowed to punch the ref?
While I�m on the subject, this country�s newspapers need to stop making excuses for its losing teams and using the referee as a scapegoat, just look at the Dom Post today and every paper for 3 months after the rugby world cup, it�s embarrassing. If the Hurricanes hadn�t played so crap for 79 minutes the iffy decision in the 80th minute wouldn�t have mattered. If the All Blacks had been a better team than France or thought about taking a drop goal then it would have been them that went on to lose to England in the semi's. Grow up.
Rant over! danielsleftball2008-04-07 14:15:58
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Actually the big difference is how much the players get paid.
While Rodder's was being interviewed he was probably thinking something like "I can't say anything about the ref, I've got mortgage payments coming up and I can't afford the fine".
Whereas your average Chelsea player, while having a good rant would think "bugger, I'll have to wait till next week for the new Ferrari".
While Rodder's was being interviewed he was probably thinking something like "I can't say anything about the ref, I've got mortgage payments coming up and I can't afford the fine".
Whereas your average Chelsea player, while having a good rant would think "bugger, I'll have to wait till next week for the new Ferrari".
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Actually the big difference is how much the players get paid.
While Rodder's was being interviewed he was probably thinking something like "I can't say anything about the ref, I've got mortgage payments coming up and I can't afford the fine".
Whereas your average Chelsea player, while having a good rant would think "bugger, I'll have to wait till next week for the new Ferrari".
While Rodder's was being interviewed he was probably thinking something like "I can't say anything about the ref, I've got mortgage payments coming up and I can't afford the fine".
Whereas your average Chelsea player, while having a good rant would think "bugger, I'll have to wait till next week for the new Ferrari".
And what about your average A-League player? Or Saturday afternoon, local club player?
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Actually the big difference is how much the players get paid.While Rodder's was being interviewed he was probably thinking something like "I can't say anything about the ref, I've got mortgage payments coming up and I can't afford the fine".Whereas your average Chelsea player, while having a good rant would think "bugger, I'll have to wait till next week for the new Ferrari".
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And what about your average A-League player?� Or Saturday afternoon, local club player?
I don't know about you DLB, but I get paid sh*tloads to play in Capital 7.
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Actually the big difference is how much the players get paid.While Rodder's was being interviewed he was probably thinking something like "I can't say anything about the ref, I've got mortgage payments coming up and I can't afford the fine".Whereas your average Chelsea player, while having a good rant would think "bugger, I'll have to wait till next week for the new Ferrari".
And what about your average A-League player? Or Saturday afternoon, local club player?
I don't know about you DLB, but I get paid sh*tloads to play in Capital 7.
14b in the pissing rain, 90 minutes in goal. I only went to watch a mate play. Got paid f*ck all.
Still gave the ref some though......
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14b in the pissing rain, 90 minutes in goal. I only went to watch a mate play. Got paid f*ck all.
Still gave the ref some though......
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14b in the pissing rain, 90 minutes in goal. I only went to watch a mate play. Got paid f*ck all.
Still gave the ref some though......
What? I hear you didn't miss me, in fact the opposite is true. Didn't you score three goals (not personally obviously).....
danielsleftball2008-04-07 15:48:53
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"I can't play this year" he says... then our keeper bails and you're prancing around in 14b ?
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We did score in your absence... but we could go a keeper...
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"I can't play this year" he says... then our keeper bails and you're prancing around in 14b ?
There's a difference between can't play and don't want to play for that team. It's a competitive market out there, dog eat dag, survival of the fitest. The best are in demand, well the worst were short of players actually, I only went to watch, honest.......
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You only shipped 2 ?
Hard News2008-04-07 15:57:35
Hard News2008-04-07 15:57:35
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I love messing with the refs, especially enjoy giving them a Gary Neville style stare after being booked for elbowing (in the ribs mind) the huge dumb center back who has been trying to kick me off the park all game.
make sure you watch to the end for the Gary Neville 'look.'
http://youtube.com/watch?v=k0THkZq4SmU
make sure you watch to the end for the Gary Neville 'look.'
http://youtube.com/watch?v=k0THkZq4SmU
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I love messing with the refs, especially enjoy giving them a Gary Neville style stare after being booked for elbowing (in the ribs mind) the huge dumb center back who has been trying to kick me off the park all game.
make sure you watch to the end for the Gary Neville 'look.'
http://youtube.com/watch?v=k0THkZq4SmU
make sure you watch to the end for the Gary Neville 'look.'
http://youtube.com/watch?v=k0THkZq4SmU
WTF
Where do you think you are, here...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWgg20IqibM
Staring at a ref, messing with him, guffaw!
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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When I say I love messing with the refs I more mean a bit of banter throughout the match.
Anyone whose played knows the feeling of having that ref who seems to just completely ignore the instances when you get fouled or just give the other team a stack of favorable decisions (penalties that never were etc).
So you take matters into your own hands... I can remember my team getting kicked off the park and the only way you can get that center back to let go of your shirt is to use your elbow to push him away the next time he gets too close. Of course after ignoring the various instances of shirt pulling/late tackles the ref calls you up for the elbow (which I suppose is fair enough but he should have never let it get that far).You try and complain but he threatens to send you off, so all you can do is give him a wicked eyeballing.
Anyone whose played knows the feeling of having that ref who seems to just completely ignore the instances when you get fouled or just give the other team a stack of favorable decisions (penalties that never were etc).
So you take matters into your own hands... I can remember my team getting kicked off the park and the only way you can get that center back to let go of your shirt is to use your elbow to push him away the next time he gets too close. Of course after ignoring the various instances of shirt pulling/late tackles the ref calls you up for the elbow (which I suppose is fair enough but he should have never let it get that far).You try and complain but he threatens to send you off, so all you can do is give him a wicked eyeballing.
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When I say I love messing with the refs I more mean a bit of banter throughout the match.
Anyone whose played knows the feeling of having that ref who seems to just completely ignore the instances when you get fouled or just give the other team a stack of favorable decisions (penalties that never were etc).
So you take matters into your own hands... I can remember my team getting kicked off the park and the only way you can get that center back to let go of your shirt is to use your elbow to push him away the next time he gets too close. Of course after ignoring the various instances of shirt pulling/late tackles the ref calls you up for the elbow (which I suppose is fair enough but he should have never let it get that far).You try and complain but he threatens to send you off, so all you can do is give him a wicked eyeballing.
Anyone whose played knows the feeling of having that ref who seems to just completely ignore the instances when you get fouled or just give the other team a stack of favorable decisions (penalties that never were etc).
So you take matters into your own hands... I can remember my team getting kicked off the park and the only way you can get that center back to let go of your shirt is to use your elbow to push him away the next time he gets too close. Of course after ignoring the various instances of shirt pulling/late tackles the ref calls you up for the elbow (which I suppose is fair enough but he should have never let it get that far).You try and complain but he threatens to send you off, so all you can do is give him a wicked eyeballing.
It just sounded funny!
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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Article in the paper had a huge rant about the last decision but the barely managed to mention that andrew hore said he hadnt scored his try earlier.
Scapegoat=Ref
Scapegoat=Ref
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Seems to me that Anrew Hore's comment make the ref look even more stoopid, he missed a non try and awarded it, and then didn't go to the TV ref to check a potential game saving try.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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So, ah, Football, that's a fun game......
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After a few years seriously taking up refereeing, I have nothing but respect for the position they are in. The only time I get angry at them is when they blatantly do not know the rules e.g. signalling an indirect free kick where the team scores then allowing the goal to stand, telling me I have to stand still when a penalty is about to be taken and being booked as a result of moving across my line before it is kicked. Both incidents happened in matches I was involved in last year.
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After a few years seriously taking up refereeing, I have nothing but respect for the position they are in. The only time I get angry at them is when they blatantly do not know the rules e.g. signalling an indirect free kick where the team scores then allowing the goal to stand, telling me I have to stand still when a penalty is about to be taken and being booked as a result of moving across my line before it is kicked. Both incidents happened in matches I was involved in last year.
Could have been worse. The ref might have had an old rule book and penalised you for taking more than 4 steps without bouncing the ball.
Or allowed the opposition to shoulder charge you if you had the ball. Then you'd really have something to complain about! 
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oh oh oh or worse than that!
He could have nailed you for picking the ball up from a back pass...
Oh hold on a second....
He could have nailed you for picking the ball up from a back pass...
Oh hold on a second....
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After a few years seriously taking up refereeing, I have nothing but respect for the position they are in. The only time I get angry at them is when they blatantly do not know the rules e.g. signalling an indirect free kick where the team scores then allowing the goal to stand, telling me I have to stand still when a penalty is about to be taken and being booked as a result of moving across my line before it is kicked. Both incidents happened in matches I was involved in last year.
I take it you mean you wear moving across your goal line - side to side?
If it was closer to the ball then a booking could be warranted for failing to retreat the required distance.
Here's a interesting one from the latest LOTG 2007/08
If a player decides to take a free kick quickly and an opponent who
is less than 9.15 m from the ball intercepts it, the referee shall allow
play to continue.
So that means if you arse up a quick free kick you don't get to take it again because the opposition player wasnt 10 yds
It also means that if you cannon a quick free kick of the back(or front) of a retreating defender, then yell 'Distance Ref - is that not a booking' isn't really going to get you far!.
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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It looks like the inference is on the attacking player taking the quick free kick.
You obviously take a free kick quickly because you have something to gain from it. If you choose to take it knowing that the defender is inside the 10 yards then you don't get the opportunity to cry about it if you stuff it up.
You obviously take a free kick quickly because you have something to gain from it. If you choose to take it knowing that the defender is inside the 10 yards then you don't get the opportunity to cry about it if you stuff it up.
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It looks like the inference is on the attacking player taking the quick free kick.
You obviously take a free kick quickly because you have something to gain from it. If you choose to take it knowing that the defender is inside the 10 yards then you don't get the opportunity to cry about it if you stuff it up.
You obviously take a free kick quickly because you have something to gain from it. If you choose to take it knowing that the defender is inside the 10 yards then you don't get the opportunity to cry about it if you stuff it up.
However, if you are the defending player and you impede the taking of a quick free kick from within 10 yards (old money), then you can get a punch in the face and a kick in the bollocks from the attacking player and the ref can�t do anything about it (it�s a bit like ice hockey). It�s the rules.
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Only if the attacking players team won the coin toss. Otherwise all bets are off.
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