Responses to Daniel's (Possible) Departure

Responses to Daniel's (Possible) Departure

I say possibly because I don't want to make it foregone conclusion.
Just wanted to get a general idea of the reaction to the news.
If you have some significantly different reaction leave a comment and I'll add another choice (if I can?).asmodeus_822012-02-15 12:51:05

He's served the club well, but could have served it so much better if Ricki would start him more and stop hooking him ahead of others who are performing less well...

he's had 5 assists this season, only one behind leader in goal assists Michael McGlinchy.  Play him more Ricki!  I would like flair and Dani, Daniel combo.

^^^ 5 assists this season with 6(?) Starts?
Thats kind of impressive considering I don't think he's played a full 90 all season, was left unused on the bench for several (5?) games.
I wouldn't be opposed to including a guaranteed game time clause in his contract assuming that that is the problem and not the bottom line.

Still not sure just why some of you carry on about him.Yep he has done some good things but no more than others.To me a player who hasnt performed to all the hype some of you give him.

Great to have assists but they mean buggar all if the rest of the play isnt really up to it.

Except that for the 5 or so games he started over Christmas he did all the things he is accused of not doing.  he worked hard, he tackled (not alwys successfully - but most of our midfield can be accused of that), tracked back, put in dangerous crossed, took great set-pieces, ran at players and created chances.

harsh in my view too. However I think the club's stance is probably reasonable to drop his wages, so leaving may be the best for all parties

Wow  5 games,could it be he saw what may be coming.That should be sometimes tracked back,sometimes put in a dangerous cross,sometimes took a great set piece,yep ran at players but sadly not as successfully as many choose to remember. ballane2012-02-15 17:43:24

Enough that he got 4 firsts and a 2nd in MOTM voting on here, so what was fresh in people's minds is that in a period where we had 4-2 and 5-2 wins he was more key to those wins than anyone else.

What Hard News says... I am still astounded he didn't get to keep his starting position. It's the best I have ever seen him play. He was our heartbeat.

But why was absent so long in the 2nd season? I doubt it was politics if he was a T S favourite. Was he ill? as no mention of injury as I can remember. I know he did have an injury spell in 3rd pre-season

My theory with Daniel (and flair players in general) is they will struggle in isolation of players of similar style i.e players who can anticipate / make runs, play quick one touches etc.

Dont get me wrong i have enjoyed his contribution to the Phoenix.But i dont think he has delivered as much as we could have hoped for.While he may be up there with assists this season,like many of our team their delivery at times is not good at all and its often not there at all.

Agree with WB he has often played his best when played with a like minded player and this also seemed to help Locheads game.

Still dont understand why after playing well at home in a good win he was then dropped for the next away game which we bloody lost,and since then has struggled to get back in.

As for MOTM voting on here your not seriously trying say thats an indicator,if anything thats a piss take most of time.

MOTM poll may be very informal but it attracts a good spread of votes and generally speaking the winner is a fair reflection of the best player on the day. Sure there are the usual comedy votes but they are a minority and in 5 seasons I have seen few poll winners that I thought were totally unrealistic.

that's clause 14:2 of Kewell's contract

good luck in whatever it is you decide daniel.I think another season would be nice tho.

funny how everyone slagged him off hard out til now

not everyone - as I have alwasy liked him - but 90% have been scathing

I really enjoyed his play this season and would've preferred to have greenacre benched in favour of him recently. Whitby boy's post makes a lot of sense and a lot of people have felt that daniel/dani together produces more than the sum of their parts

no slag on greenacre, and we would miss his running, i just like the idea of sanchez centrally, daniel/leo on the flanks and ifill up top. Classy attacking quartet that would be...

sad to see him go if he does, really wish he'd hang around. Doesn't he have some sort of academy here? Have welnix/ricki considered supplementing his playing income with some sort of coaching/advisory role in the academy they are proposing for the nix? His touch and delivery are something i'd love to see replicated in our young new zealand players coming through...

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news-display/daniel-explores-options/45402
Daniel explores options

Daniel's future at the Wellington Phoenix is unclear after he was given time to fly to Singapore to explore an offer.

The likeable Brazilian has been used mainly as a substitute by coach Ricki Herbert during the past two seasons.

So far this campaign he has made eight starts in 18 matches and Herbert confirmed on Wednesday the club had yet to put an offer in front of the 32-year-old midfielder.

"We haven't made a lot of players offers yet," added Herbert. "Our heads have been firmly concentrating on the finals series.

"Whilst players are probably looking for a bit more certainty and longevity in their careers it will probably be a couple of weeks until we get closer to something new."

Daniel signed with the Phoenix in 2007 and brought up his 100th match for the club against Newcastle Jets in January.

He was granted leave earlier this week to go to Singapore but will be part of Herbert's extended squad that leaves Wellington on Thursday for matches against Central Coast Mariners and Sydney FC.

"Daniel has got his family to consider. He's got his future to consider, whether that's a year or two years in professional football," said Herbert.

"Whilst the Phoenix has been his home for a long period of time it's important that he is happy and he's making the right decisions.

"We've given him three days now to clear his head and see what he feels himself. Then we can make a call."

George Costanza2012-02-16 14:28:32

Now I'm confused. Is it the case that we made him an offer which he turned down? Or was that just wild speculation and rumor?
If it is the case we haven't made him an offer why not?!
Heard some pretty terrible things about Singapore football...

wtf, Last I was hearing Daniel was loving the club and obviously performing on the park by providing the assists. I'd be keeping him on, Bertos taking set pieces makes me cry.

Yep. Daniel's set pieces may have only rattled the crossbar in his last few attempts, but at least he can get it past the first defender.

Totally agree with HN's comments in this thread. We don't always agree but he says it exactly as it is.

seems odd that he hasn't been offered a contract - he clearly loves being here and would easily be one of the favourites in the team for the fans. Would be sad to see him leave.....but if he wants more gametime then i guess he may have to look elsewhere - Ricki seems determined to have him on the bench - wrongly for mine

If Daniel re-signs his role will be as a squad / bench player - that is not a criticism of Daniel but simply reflects the fact he does not have the legs to last 90 minutes. His form the later part of this season has been good and certainly good enough to make the match day squad. I don't however agree he should be starting for two reasons;

What will happen to 70 minute "Daniel time" if he starts? I'm not sure if it has the same impact if he's being subbed 

I think Ricki leaves his subbing way too late. Doing it in the 60th minute would be better unless there is an injury. 75th min and later as he tends to do and the player involved wont have time to get into the swing of the game as such.