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Having just seen the challenge again on the highlights channel I think there was certainly intent to just chop him down. Key thing that lead me to believe that was his reaction, no remorse or apology. Just waved the referee away and walked off continuing to look like a little girl bopman2009-08-24 21:25:18
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I think all this talk that he set out to properly hurt Bertos and finish his season, and he targeted him becuase he is our best player and he knew we had used our 3 subs comes from people who have never really played the game.
I also doubt if all of those thoughts went through his head before doing what he did. Struggle to see how that equates to those people who said it having never really played the game. What is that exactly?
I am saying that the reason Kruse did what he did was because of petulance and frustration - not because he knew we had used all our subs. People who have not played the game (and quite often referees can be put in this category) often think that there are reasons why players do certain things on the field, where in effect their motives are completely different. In the same way that I don't understand why hockey players do certain things (like play such a stupid sport as hockey) because I have never played it.
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Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
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I have got to say as well that the challenge is stupid (it is ridiculously late) and probably did deserve a red card, but I cannot see it as being dangerous at all. Having read all the talk on here I was expecting a studs up tackle straight through the knee, but he basically just slid through Bertos, and cleaned him up.
I don't think it was as bad as Aloisi's challenge that got him sent off at the end of season 1 (maybe my memory is just letting me down again) and I cannot remember too many people having a go about that on here.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
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You're memory is letting you down Frankie!
Thats the first time i've seen the challenge and it sickens me. I liken it to Andy Cole's challenge on Simon Colosimo in a Man Utd v Socceroo friendly back in 1999!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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that is a sickening tackle, and over the last couple of years I can think of a couple from Essien, one from Kuyt, one from Gerrard (on Naysmith I think) amongst many others that I think are a lot worse than the one from Kruse.
I am not defending the tackle, and as I said earlier I think it should have been a red card but I really don't see it as being dangerous.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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See, I think you are ignoring the 'Kruse is an Alice band wearing little cock' factor Frankie.
It is an important part of the evaluation process.
It is an important part of the evaluation process.
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Of course it was a dangerous tackle!
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Kruse to get the Seo treatment come 09 Jan?
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See, I think you are ignoring the 'Kruse is an Alice band wearing little cock' factor Frankie.
It is an important part of the evaluation process.
It is an important part of the evaluation process.
Aye, it is important.
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Kruse is the only player I know who has to use a cock-ring to keep his dick-head intact. Can't wait to boo him off the park in Jan.
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7 pages wasted on a knob. I wonder if he's proud?
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/2783380/Phoenix-winger-survives-shocking-tackle
Phoenix winger Leo Bertos appears to have come through Sunday's A-League match against Brisbane Roar unscathed despite being the victim of a shocking tackle late in the 1-1 draw at Suncorp Stadium.
Roar striker Robbie Kruse was fortunate to escape with only a yellow card for what was a red-card offence after a late and reckless two-footed challenge on Bertos as the third-round match reached boiling point in the dying stages.
There was obvious potential for a major injury but it was all good news yesterday, with Bertos, who has been their best player early in the season, having pulled up well.
"He's fine. He's copped a little knock but it doesn't look like there's any major damage at this stage," Phoenix football operations manager Mal Impiombato said before the team left Brisbane.
"He's obviously just a bit sore after that knock but he should be fine for Sydney."
With a win and draw from three matches, the Phoenix have enjoyed their best start in three A-League seasons and are tied for fourth after Sunday's second-half comeback. They face another stern test on the road at unbeaten Sydney this weekend.
Coach Ricki Herbert was encouraged by the combinations up front between Bertos, Paul Ifill and goalscorer Chris Greenacre, and the impact of substitutes Daniel and Vince Lia, but wants his team to "tighten up" defensively.
This is good to hear
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The actions of a petulant immature player putting a fellow professionals well being at risk ,disgusting!!
90% of tackles on a football field put fellow professionals at risk. There are as many players getting injured like Fabregas did last season in a block tackle with Alonso than there are from tackles like those on Eduardo - probably more.
A player went off the field at Preston yesterday with what looks like a broken leg after he fouled another player in a pretty harmless looking way. It was quite funny though when the ref held up the yellow card over him when he was being stretchered off with an oxygen tank.
Perhaps you watch a replay of the tackle.
I said earlier that I hadn't seen this tackle, but if someone can get it on youtube or bebo or twitter or whatever you kids use, then I am keen to have a look.
The thing that annoys is that the phrase "that was a real leg breaker" gets used a lot in football, when they have not broken any legs or even injured the opposition player at all. I have seen more broken legs (Cisse for Marseille, Larsen for Celtic) and long term injuries (Owen at WC) from accidents than I have from bad tackles.
There are a number of players here who can testify that I have put in some pretty bad challenges over the years, and yet I can honestly say I cannot ever remember trying to properly hurt anyone (although my memory is not so good). I think all this talk that he set out to properly hurt Bertos and finish his season, and he targeted him becuase he is our best player and he knew we had used our 3 subs comes from people who have never really played the game.
What a load of old sh*te, there are plenty of players who deliberately go out to injure other players, look at Keane's tackle on Haaland for the most famous example.
Any defender worth his salt in the 70's went out to injure opposition players to either remove them as a threat or scare the sh*t out of them.
So what you're saying is that footballers have suddenly become nice and gentlemanly and don't do deliberate injury causing tackles today? Bollocks, they don't do it because they would be carded and suspended not because they've suddenly become a bunch of footballing Mother Teresas.
Also drop that patronising sh*t about people not knowing about football because they've not "played the game". It's bullsh*t and you only have to look at the ex-footballers who make up the pondlife pundits to know most of them know f*ckall football.
Basically pull your head out of your arse and sort you life out.
ForteanTimes2009-08-25 10:35:05
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Red mist is part of human nature, when it descends the intent to harm is there.
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The actions of a petulant immature player putting a fellow professionals well being at risk ,disgusting!!
90% of tackles on a football field put fellow professionals at risk. There are as many players getting injured like Fabregas did last season in a block tackle with Alonso than there are from tackles like those on Eduardo - probably more.
A player went off the field at Preston yesterday with what looks like a broken leg after he fouled another player in a pretty harmless looking way. It was quite funny though when the ref held up the yellow card over him when he was being stretchered off with an oxygen tank.
Perhaps you watch a replay of the tackle.
I said earlier that I hadn't seen this tackle, but if someone can get it on youtube or bebo or twitter or whatever you kids use, then I am keen to have a look.
The thing that annoys is that the phrase "that was a real leg breaker" gets used a lot in football, when they have not broken any legs or even injured the opposition player at all. I have seen more broken legs (Cisse for Marseille, Larsen for Celtic) and long term injuries (Owen at WC) from accidents than I have from bad tackles.
There are a number of players here who can testify that I have put in some pretty bad challenges over the years, and yet I can honestly say I cannot ever remember trying to properly hurt anyone (although my memory is not so good). I think all this talk that he set out to properly hurt Bertos and finish his season, and he targeted him becuase he is our best player and he knew we had used our 3 subs comes from people who have never really played the game.
What a load of old sh*te, there are plenty of players who deliberately go out to injure other players, look at Keane's tackle on Haaland for the most famous example.
Any defender worth his salt in the 70's went out to injure opposition players to either remove them as a threat or scare the sh*t out of them.
So what you're saying is that footballers have suddenly become nice and gentlemanly and don't do deliberate injury causing tackles today? Bollocks, they don't do it because they would be carded and suspended not because they've suddenly become a bunch of footballing Mother Teresas.
Also drop that patronising sh*t about people not knowing about football because they've not "played the game". It's bullsh*t and you only have to look at the ex-footballers who make up the pondlife pundits to know most of them know f*ckall football.
Basically pull your head out of your arse and sort you life out.
Rumour has is that Andy Harper was so turned on after seeing Kruse's tackle that he went into the Brisbane changeroom and had man love with him!!!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Is C-diddy the new Gourdie?Stefan2009-08-25 10:43:54
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Red mist is part of human nature, when it descends the intent to harm is there.
Bingo! 
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/2783380/Phoenix-winger-survives-shocking-tackle
Phoenix winger Leo Bertos appears to have come through Sunday's A-League match against Brisbane Roar unscathed despite being the victim of a shocking tackle late in the 1-1 draw at Suncorp Stadium.
Roar striker Robbie Kruse was fortunate to escape with only a yellow card for what was a red-card offence after a late and reckless two-footed challenge on Bertos as the third-round match reached boiling point in the dying stages.
There was obvious potential for a major injury but it was all good news yesterday, with Bertos, who has been their best player early in the season, having pulled up well.
"He's fine. He's copped a little knock but it doesn't look like there's any major damage at this stage," Phoenix football operations manager Mal Impiombato said before the team left Brisbane.
"He's obviously just a bit sore after that knock but he should be fine for Sydney."
With a win and draw from three matches, the Phoenix have enjoyed their best start in three A-League seasons and are tied for fourth after Sunday's second-half comeback. They face another stern test on the road at unbeaten Sydney this weekend.
Coach Ricki Herbert was encouraged by the combinations up front between Bertos, Paul Ifill and goalscorer Chris Greenacre, and the impact of substitutes Daniel and Vince Lia, but wants his team to "tighten up" defensively.
This is good to hear
Pedant mode
A reckless tackle is not a red card offence - it is only a cautionable offence, whereas excessive force is a red card offence.
LOTG - Additional instructions for referees - Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct
�Reckless� means that the player has acted with complete disregard
of the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent
� A player who plays in a reckless manner shall be cautioned.
�Using excessive force� means that the player has far exceeded the
necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
� A player who uses excessive force shall be sent off.
ginger_eejit2009-08-25 11:04:45
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/2783380/Phoenix-winger-survives-shocking-tackle
Phoenix winger Leo Bertos appears to have come through Sunday's A-League match against Brisbane Roar unscathed despite being the victim of a shocking tackle late in the 1-1 draw at Suncorp Stadium.
Roar striker Robbie Kruse was fortunate to escape with only a yellow card for what was a red-card offence after a late and reckless two-footed challenge on Bertos as the third-round match reached boiling point in the dying stages.
There was obvious potential for a major injury but it was all good news yesterday, with Bertos, who has been their best player early in the season, having pulled up well.
"He's fine. He's copped a little knock but it doesn't look like there's any major damage at this stage," Phoenix football operations manager Mal Impiombato said before the team left Brisbane.
"He's obviously just a bit sore after that knock but he should be fine for Sydney."
With a win and draw from three matches, the Phoenix have enjoyed their best start in three A-League seasons and are tied for fourth after Sunday's second-half comeback. They face another stern test on the road at unbeaten Sydney this weekend.
Coach Ricki Herbert was encouraged by the combinations up front between Bertos, Paul Ifill and goalscorer Chris Greenacre, and the impact of substitutes Daniel and Vince Lia, but wants his team to "tighten up" defensively.
This is good to hear
Pedant mode
A reckless tackle is not a red card offence - it is only a cautionable offence, whereas excessive force is a red card offence.
LOTG - Additional instructions for referees - Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct
�Reckless� means that the player has acted with complete disregard
of the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent
� A player who plays in a reckless manner shall be cautioned.
�Using excessive force� means that the player has far exceeded the
necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
� A player who uses excessive force shall be sent off.
A ref defending a ref, whatever next!!! 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Had a guy who broke his leg in three places after a tackle and would never play ever again right in front of his young daughter watching form the sideline and the tackle was clearly legimate and run of the mill type tackles but the ground created the freak accident.
Not reckless or excessive just freak.AllWhitebelievr2009-08-25 11:28:49
Not reckless or excessive just freak.AllWhitebelievr2009-08-25 11:28:49
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No mention of the tackle in the match report on the Roar site...typicalhttp://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=28888
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Oh, I love this part of the Roar match report
[quote]Despite numerous chances in the tense closing stages of the game, the Roar were unable to find a winner and will now look to next week�s home clash against Central Coast Mariners for their elusive first win.
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Oh, I love this part of the Roar match report
[quote]Despite numerous chances in the tense closing stages of the game, the Roar were unable to find a winner and will now look to next week�s home clash against Central Coast Mariners for their elusive first win.
Must have been watching a different game, because the one I watched, the last 10 minutes was all Phoenix.
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No mention of the tackle in the match report on the Roar site...typicalhttp://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=28888
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Oh, I love this part of the Roar match report
[quote]Despite numerous chances in the tense closing stages of the game, the Roar were unable to find a winner and will now look to next week�s home clash against Central Coast Mariners for their elusive first win.
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Oh, I love this part of the Roar match report
[quote]Despite numerous chances in the tense closing stages of the game, the Roar were unable to find a winner and will now look to next week�s home clash against Central Coast Mariners for their elusive first win.
Must have been watching a different game, because the one I watched, the last 10 minutes was all Phoenix.
That's a classic I have to say! Coming from a country where the media are so biased towards 2 teams it is unbelievable, that is probably the worst I have ever seen!!
Numerous chances for Roar? The number they are talking about must be 0 I would've though?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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No mention of the tackle in the match report on the Roar site...typicalhttp://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=28888 [/QUOTE] Oh, I love this part of the Roar match report [quote]Despite numerous chances in the tense closing stages of the game, the Roar were unable to find a winner and will now look to next week�s home clash against Central Coast Mariners for their elusive first win.
Must have been watching a different game, because the one I watched, the last 10 minutes was all Phoenix.
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That's a classic I have to say! Coming from a country where the media are so biased towards 2 teams it is unbelievable, that is probably the worst I have ever seen!!
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Numerous chances for Roar? The number they are talking about must be 0 I would've though?
It's just like the Aussie media burying the Bledisloe and Ashes results 10 pages inside the back of the sports section, so nobody would have to read about it
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I can understand burying the Ashes, but rugby doesn't move much beyond 10 pages inside anyway
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In Queensland rugby is still huge. In big parts of NSW as well.
valeo2009-08-25 18:06:40
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Three games in and we have 8 pages on a shyte tackle made by a prat.Some of you really do carry on and on and on and on about.BUGGAR all.
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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See, I think you are ignoring the 'Kruse is an-Alice-band-wearing whiny weaslly diving lay-down Sally cock who any fan should be ashamed to see on their team' factor Frankie.
It is an important part of the evaluation process.
It is an important part of the evaluation process.
and Ballane it was a cowardly attempt to deliberately injure the guy who has been our stand out hero, by a complete prat, who isn't good enough to be on the same pitch (see above)
martinb2009-08-25 18:46:59
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The actions of a petulant immature player putting a fellow professionals well being at risk ,disgusting!!
90% of tackles on a football field put fellow professionals at risk. There are as many players getting injured like Fabregas did last season in a block tackle with Alonso than there are from tackles like those on Eduardo - probably more.
A player went off the field at Preston yesterday with what looks like a broken leg after he fouled another player in a pretty harmless looking way. It was quite funny though when the ref held up the yellow card over him when he was being stretchered off with an oxygen tank.
Perhaps you watch a replay of the tackle.
I said earlier that I hadn't seen this tackle, but if someone can get it on youtube or bebo or twitter or whatever you kids use, then I am keen to have a look.
The thing that annoys is that the phrase "that was a real leg breaker" gets used a lot in football, when they have not broken any legs or even injured the opposition player at all. I have seen more broken legs (Cisse for Marseille, Larsen for Celtic) and long term injuries (Owen at WC) from accidents than I have from bad tackles.
There are a number of players here who can testify that I have put in some pretty bad challenges over the years, and yet I can honestly say I cannot ever remember trying to properly hurt anyone (although my memory is not so good). I think all this talk that he set out to properly hurt Bertos and finish his season, and he targeted him becuase he is our best player and he knew we had used our 3 subs comes from people who have never really played the game.
What a load of old sh*te, there are plenty of players who deliberately go out to injure other players, look at Keane's tackle on Haaland for the most famous example.
Any defender worth his salt in the 70's went out to injure opposition players to either remove them as a threat or scare the sh*t out of them.
So what you're saying is that footballers have suddenly become nice and gentlemanly and don't do deliberate injury causing tackles today? Bollocks, they don't do it because they would be carded and suspended not because they've suddenly become a bunch of footballing Mother Teresas.
Also drop that patronising sh*t about people not knowing about football because they've not "played the game". It's bullsh*t and you only have to look at the ex-footballers who make up the pondlife pundits to know most of them know f*ckall football.
Basically pull your head out of your arse and sort you life out.
Keane's tackle on Haaland is the one known case where a footballer has deliberately gone out to injure an opposition player. To say that it happens a lot and that is proof of that is just wrong.
Defender's in the 70's used intimidation as a big part of their game, in the same way that a fast bowler in cricket uses a bouncer. Are they trying to deliberately hurt the batsmen? It is actually very easy to deliberately hurt an opposition player, but in the same way it is possible to kick someone without causing any major damage - just a bruise and a but of sore leg. That is what defenders in the 70's did - gave the opposition forward a bit of a tap and see if he wanted to come back for more. If they went out to do proper damage, do you think players like Trevor Brooking would have lasted very long?
What I was saying about people having never played the game, was related to the thought process. I can state as a fact that Kruse was never thinking things like "they have already used three subs" or "he is their best player" (in the 90th minute?????) when he committed that challenge - those sorts of things simply do not go through your mind at the time.
Finally, I have a very nice life, thank you very much.
As a final note, Feverish probably has the largest reputation for the "red mist" when on the field, and has been sent off more times than he can count (to be fair, that only means more than twice). I would be very surprised if he had ever tried to end somebodies season or career in a moment of madness.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
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only you at training a couple of times
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you could never catch me.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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I agree with Frankie Mac. Red Mist is driven by little sense of rational thought...simply someone at the end of their tether in this case (f**ked off and knackered I should think).
I'll vent my spleen at him along with the rest of you when he next comes to the RoF, but really, intentionally trying to harm a 'fellow professional'? I'm not convinced that fraternal loyalty stands up to scrutiny: count the number of red mist occasions in team training!
HarryHotspur2009-08-25 21:16:41
I'll vent my spleen at him along with the rest of you when he next comes to the RoF, but really, intentionally trying to harm a 'fellow professional'? I'm not convinced that fraternal loyalty stands up to scrutiny: count the number of red mist occasions in team training!
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In Queensland rugby is still huge. In big parts of NSW as well.
Really? I monitor Queensland media, and they hardly ever mention rugby - always league and AFL, and the A-League actually much more than rugby.
I like tautologies because I like them.
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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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In Queensland rugby is still huge. In big parts of NSW as well.
Umm no. Though somewhat clouded by the fact that many of them talk of "rugby" tho are referring to what we know to be rugby league.
Same old Aussies...
Confused bunch though they are.
E + R + O
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Fox Sport FC tonight Harper called it a "horrible foul" and the yellow card "palpably insufficient". All the panel were unanimous Kruse should've been sent off.
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there must be prior form of some descriptionfor this amount of vitriolany takers for Kruse and past sins? aside from hairband I can't think of what he's done...?and that "tackle" is no way worse than any number of Roy Keane specials.
Keep in mind, when saying things like that, that Roy Keane is a dickhead.
Difference being that Roy Keane is a complete legend and a world class player who time and again put players like Viera in their place - Kruse isn't just a wanna be he's a never will be and is so far up his own arse I'm surprised he needs the stupid hair band
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Fox Sport FC tonight Harper called it a "horrible foul" and the yellow card "palpably insufficient". All the panel were unanimous Kruse should've been sent off.
w**ker!!!!!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Harper is alright. Better than bloody Slater.
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Harper is alright. Better than bloody Slater.
So is a decent fart. Or even a crap one for that matter (pun intended).
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