2017/18 Transfer Speculation

By 'him' i'm pretty sure he means Tratt.  Why do you think you have the right to know something that both the club and the player agree is private?

It's nobodies business whatever it is. And has nothing to do with how much anyone spends on the club.

Exactly. Tratt is gone and we should move on, and start figuring out maybe who could replace him and talk about the general transfer shenanigans. 

Token, I'm not sharing anything more. I said what I said to dispel talk of a spat between Tratt and Nix, which isn't the case at all.

Joel shows some real classy touches and I hope that maybe after another season or two at TeeDubs he gets more game-time under his belt and keeps on improving his game, becomes more influential and consistent, so that he could be picked up by the Nix again as he approaches his prime.

i dont care about tratt but if the hurricanes had a similar problem in camp the whole country would know. we know nothing not coaches, managers , recruitments etc, which is why i joined the forum to be in the know nothing more. all this private bullshark is not making things gel on the field or the stands too much rumors. and money does count it costs 2-300 a game for me and mine. petrol sux. so if a longtime member is in the know ill ask

While i dont agree in any way with tokens delivery re this matter.Despite the denials by some there is far to much said at times that some are aware of this or that with the club but due to confidentiality or some other BS it cant be shared.Thats fine and understand that but in that case dont bother mentioning it or posting about it.

Any wonder people get frustrated at times you hear squat out of the Phoenix then you come on here to be told by XYZ they are aware of whats going on but sorry you blebs cant be told.

But the team has told us, they issued a press release. Tratt was release for personal reasons, what more do we need to know?

The line personal reasons unfortunately means squat these days. An all black lock came home from a tour last year due to "personal reasons". 

Players have been instructed by their union to use those two words if they fail an A sample drugs test whilst they are awaiting the B sample.

i reckon we as the public know a lot more about internal things at the Nix that at any NZ rugby team...

Fudge me, this is going to be a long off season....

mods take control etc. 

The All Blacks had their hands tied legally in that case: see here

And therein lies my point

For all we know the Nix have their hands "tied legally"

Dad, are we there yet?

Return to Ricki? 

The fact it comes the season after we lost Powell to CCM via a similar sounding release adds to the intrigue but I'm sure the clubs hands are tied over what they can say about it. But from the clubs actions, giving him time to go home & try to get over the issue and by how really disappointed he appeared in his acceptance speech, I think its clear both parties wish he was still here.

Interesting one. We have no knowledge of why he left, as "personal reasons" leaves us all in the dark.

May not have liked the club, may have issues with a team member, may have issues with Wellington, may have decided to retire, may have an ill family member, may have a friend needing him, may have a business at home needing his time, may have mental health issues, may have ....

I don't see any of those possibilities not being able to be known. Something was so pressing that he couldn't play out the season, what?

He was one of the most promising, and a back, rarity, that's why it is frustrating, 

It's private. 

I had a close family member get very sick and then die, it impacted on my work in some ways so I told my boss, but if anyone speculated on why I was missing from work or was under performing for a few months well it was none of their business. If I left it would have been none of their business either. 

People are entitled to a personal life.

Even more so when you're in the public eye, otherwise you get situations like Harry Arter who was taunted about his daughters death. Some supporters around the league have shown themselves to be equally as crass.

This hits the nail on the head - just because these players play for our football club doesn't mean that they have to share their entire private lives with the general public. We don't get to choose what they want to remain private or not hepatitis, that is up to them. If they deem that any of those "issues" that you listed off are things that they'd prefer not to share, then they don't have to. Simple as that.

In Tratt's case, it's not any of the "may not have liked the club, may have issues with a team member, may have issues with Wellington" things you mentioned. That's the only reason I posted initially, because some were speculating that it was a sign of deeper issues at the club. It's nothing like that at all.

I'm sorry for even posting that because the way some posters in here have had a go at me for sharing that makes me thing I shouldn't share anything I hear about the club at all on here.

I think these would be good reasons not to say anything. I sure wouldn't want half of NZ and Australia knowing this about me. 

We all have a social mask, right? We put it on, we go out, put our best foot forward, our best image. But behind that social mask is a personal truth, what we really, really believe about who we are and what we're capable of.

If he left because he hates Wellington, the club, or for similar reasons I reckon one of the anti-nix media brigade in Australia would have found that story by now.

And if they did (not saying they do), it makes calls for them to explain silly, doesn't it?

I think those reasons you highlighted are honourable and not something to be ashamed of, if so, I would say good on him.

I can't see anyone harassing him as Ryan suggested.

Anyway we won't know and I wish him well regardless, and hope we get a good replacement that raises the excitement levels in the same way he did, he was a good find

Wind the clock back and stop guessing - wait

Remember this:  A few red faces appeared during The  Guess and tell

Have to laugh how some try and take the moral high ground.I have no interest in why he left and dont think anyone else should.Also dont think those who are aware of the situation have any right in hinting that they are aware,if things are that sensitive and speculation isnt wanted then why fuel that speculation by passing comment at all . Frankly if you are party to receiving information that isnt to be shared then do that just keep it to yourself.

May not have mentioned it in my post but you are kidding yourself if you dont think there is a so called fever elite,its the wrong term for it and not really sure how you would term it.But its there despite the denials,actually nothing wrong with it at all frankly apart from the denials.

Back to speculation, we have one u20 spot free don't we? Guessing that will go to Singh.

Does the U20 spot screw him up in any way in terms of playing for WU and/or WeeNix in ASBP? ie one less senior player we can drop for ASBP, and/or him no longer being able to play over winter. 

Did McGarry get resigned after they released him early to allow him to play club footy?

There's shark that needs doing. We do it. We don't deny it.