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2017/18 Transfer Speculation

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about 8 years ago

Brown Bear wrote:

Are we looking at a new keeper this window?

Why..

Adelaide's resident Nix supporter
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about 8 years ago

Brown Bear wrote:

Are we looking at a new keeper this window?

Why..

because both our current keepers have been a big part of our failing season.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 8 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

martinb wrote:

Krishna had a very proven track record at a lower level, pace and obviously an ability to listen to coaching. He didn't impress much on his first team outings when he started. 

Watson did what Ernie asked him initially to get a contract and he hates losing. Anyway, there were times when I thought Watto might have the goods, but he hasn't shown anything this season on the limited opportunities he's had. I was hoping we'd see a bit more from him. Sometimes it's just getting that scrappy goal which settles a player or increases confidence.

So much this. Krishna was 25 or 26 when he joined us - Watson was 19 or 20 when he first started out with us. 

I won't complain if Watson goes, but I definitely feel like he's copped an unfair amount of shark sometimes and was never quite given the opportunity to really develop through regular professional football. The managers we've had and the general state of the team haven't been conducive to developing a young target man. I remember seeing Watson in the HBU side a few years ago and he was bossing it. I think he's the sort of player who is very much affected by his own confidence and time on the pitch and the Nix haven't done much to foster either.

It ties into a bigger issue though about how we develop talent and bring youth through. 

Watson was 22 so might wanna revise that

I looked it up. We were both wrong. He was 21. Almost 22 though, so you were closer. I'll give you that ;)

bottom line is he's 25 by the end of the season. Does his development reflect that of a professional football player coming into his prime? Not by a mile. I'll be gutted to see him go though because he's a genuinely good guy. Has to go though

you can put all the development and training in the world into a donkey, they will still never win the Melbourne Cup
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about 8 years ago

This guy has the name of two of the biggest A-league non-legends. Shoulda signed him.

Owusu Kwabena

Leganés to FC Cartegna



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about 8 years ago

What about Monty Patterson?

Is a natural left winger (can play either side) who is probably looking for first team football as he doesn't look set to crack it at Ipswich. Would come cheap IMO and would certainly offer more than current options.

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about 8 years ago

Abbas def going.

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about 8 years ago

pierre wrote:

Abbas def going.

Honestly wouldn't surprise me if he ends up back at Sydney on an ACL deal.
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about 8 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

What about Monty Patterson?

Is a natural left winger (can play either side) who is probably looking for first team football as he doesn't look set to crack it at Ipswich. Would come cheap IMO and would certainly offer more than current options.

would take him for sure. dunno if he would be willing to leave a championship team for us though, regardless of how much play time he is getting 
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

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about 8 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

What about Monty Patterson?

No

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 8 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

What about Monty Patterson?

No

Why not? your bold appreciation please and we promise not to hold you to account at a later date.....
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about 8 years ago

Nelly Yoa is available. 

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 8 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

What about Monty Patterson?

No

Why not? your bold appreciation please and we promise not to hold you to account at a later date.....

Because I don't think he is very good....? Is that good enough for you?

Sign better footballers. He is just another Cameron Lindsay in a different shade of blue.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 8 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

What about Monty Patterson?

No

Why not? your bold appreciation please and we promise not to hold you to account at a later date.....

Because I don't think he is very good....? Is that good enough for you?

Sign better footballers. He is just another Cameron Lindsay in a different shade of blue.

This season is clearly sorting boys from men, and I don't think we need more boys. We do not have enough capable men.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

mrsmiis wrote:

Matija Ljujic is now listed as a player on the club website:

https://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/player/matija-lj...

Props to the guy who first broke the story!

What's he like? I hear he played with AK in the past...so he comes highly recommended. It would be interesting to see him in action tomorrow already, but really curious if anyone has any info on him other than Wiki/Transfermarkt.

EDIT: I think he's Eugene Dadi's long lost brother


VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

Jeff Vader wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

What about Monty Patterson?

No

Why not? your bold appreciation please and we promise not to hold you to account at a later date.....

Because I don't think he is very good....? Is that good enough for you?

Sign better footballers. He is just another Cameron Lindsay in a different shade of blue.

Except he's had a first team performance and signed professional terms, something Lindsey never managed in the UK.

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about 8 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

What about Monty Patterson?

No

Why not? your bold appreciation please and we promise not to hold you to account at a later date.....

Because I don't think he is very good....? Is that good enough for you?

Sign better footballers. He is just another Cameron Lindsay in a different shade of blue.

Except he's had a first team performance and signed professional terms, something Lindsey never managed in the UK.

Cam Howieson then?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 8 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

What about Monty Patterson?

No

Why not? your bold appreciation please and we promise not to hold you to account at a later date.....

Because I don't think he is very good....? Is that good enough for you?

Sign better footballers. He is just another Cameron Lindsay in a different shade of blue.

Comparable to Roy Krishna when he joined the club?
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about 8 years ago

mrsmiis wrote:

Matija Ljujic is now listed as a player on the club website:

https://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/player/matija-lj...

Props to the guy who first broke the story!

What's he like? I hear he played with AK in the past...so he comes highly recommended. It would be interesting to see him in action tomorrow already, but really curious if anyone has any info on him other than Wiki/Transfermarkt.

EDIT: I think he's Eugene Dadi's long lost brother

Only seen highlights, but looks like he mixes Finkler’s set pieces and playmaking ability with inform Paracki’s passing and composure. Actually looks pretty solid even if he has just been released from Lithuania, could be great if Kalezić knows what he’s doing!

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about 8 years ago

Just looked at his highlights package on youtube; I'd have thought he would have scored more goals than he has. The highlighted ones are quality.

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about 8 years ago

Yeah I thought the same. The highlights reel is pretty good, some great set pieces, nice goals and assists. But he hasn't scored very much in some pretty average leagues - so we just have to wait and see I guess. He has skills, that's for sure, but can he make a difference? We'll soon see!


VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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about 8 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

What about Monty Patterson?

No

Why not? your bold appreciation please and we promise not to hold you to account at a later date.....

Because I don't think he is very good....? Is that good enough for you?

Sign better footballers. He is just another Cameron Lindsay in a different shade of blue.

Except he's had a first team performance and signed professional terms, something Lindsey never managed in the UK.

He played in givesashark cup round 3 against some sharkass team where all the reserves were playing. If thats 1st team football for you then sure, sign him up. I don't see it and I don't see other posts going 'FUUUUCCCCKKKKK we have to have him'

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 8 years ago

I didn't say he was must... just an option, something we are limited by because of import rules.

Howieson seems to be doing well and has his confidence back - but I still don't rate him personally, I think his touch and option taking are poor too often.

Screw Colorado Smith - come to the A League and back to NZ, our reduced schedule will be good for your dodgy hip and back!

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

MetalLegNZ wrote:

I didn't say he was must... just an option, something we are limited by because of import rules.

Howieson seems to be doing well and has his confidence back - but I still don't rate him personally, I think his touch and option taking are poor too often.

Screw Colorado Smith - come to the A League and back to NZ, our reduced schedule will be good for your dodgy hip and back!

Yeah he'd definitely be good as a backup option, but to be honest he's not really up to this level in my opinion. When you're 21 and you've only made one first team appearance there's got to be questions asked about his talent and his potential development, especially when there are four first-team regulars younger than him. 

For me there are better players we could sign from ACFC than Howieson, I agree with what you say there. Tavano is having a blinder of a season and he can play anywhere from DM to striker, he'd be excellent backup. De Vries, McCowatt and Harry Edge are three other Kiwi nationals who could make the step up.

And hell yeah Tommy Smith!

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

mrsmiis wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

I didn't say he was must... just an option, something we are limited by because of import rules.

Howieson seems to be doing well and has his confidence back - but I still don't rate him personally, I think his touch and option taking are poor too often.

Screw Colorado Smith - come to the A League and back to NZ, our reduced schedule will be good for your dodgy hip and back!

Yeah he'd definitely be good as a backup option, but to be honest he's not really up to this level in my opinion. When you're 21 and you've only made one first team appearance there's got to be questions asked about his talent and his potential development, especially when there are four first-team regulars younger than him. 

For me there are better players we could sign from ACFC than Howieson, I agree with what you say there. Tavano is having a blinder of a season and he can play anywhere from DM to striker, he'd be excellent backup. De Vries, McCowatt and Harry Edge are three other Kiwi nationals who could make the step up.

And hell yeah Tommy Smith!

Not sure if his physical condition is up to the speed of the A-League.  

Consider Paracki who is only now coming to terms with it. Smith might end up being a walking wounded.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 8 years ago

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about 8 years ago

I thought I'd replied to this. Must have been another thread. 

We're gunna end up taking North or Conflakes innit



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about 8 years ago

Tuiloma - where is he, what is he doing currently?

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about 8 years ago

Bring back Cleberson.



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about 8 years ago

Rossi on the way out?

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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 8 years ago

mrsmiis wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

I didn't say he was must... just an option, something we are limited by because of import rules.

Howieson seems to be doing well and has his confidence back - but I still don't rate him personally, I think his touch and option taking are poor too often.

Screw Colorado Smith - come to the A League and back to NZ, our reduced schedule will be good for your dodgy hip and back!

Yeah he'd definitely be good as a backup option, but to be honest he's not really up to this level in my opinion. When you're 21 and you've only made one first team appearance there's got to be questions asked about his talent and his potential development, especially when there are four first-team regulars younger than him. 

For me there are better players we could sign from ACFC than Howieson, I agree with what you say there. Tavano is having a blinder of a season and he can play anywhere from DM to striker, he'd be excellent backup. De Vries, McCowatt and Harry Edge are three other Kiwi nationals who could make the step up.

And hell yeah Tommy Smith!

You had me until the bolded part. Harry Edge is nowhere near HAL quality.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 8 years ago

Rossi!!?? thats a very big loss for us...

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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about 8 years ago

kwlap wrote:

Rossi!!?? thats a very big loss for us...

I think it would be if we didn't replace him effectively.
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about 8 years ago

kwlap wrote:

Rossi!!?? thats a very big loss for us...

I think it would be if we didn't replace him effectively.

Bring back Box(all)
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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

Jeff Vader wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

I didn't say he was must... just an option, something we are limited by because of import rules.

Howieson seems to be doing well and has his confidence back - but I still don't rate him personally, I think his touch and option taking are poor too often.

Screw Colorado Smith - come to the A League and back to NZ, our reduced schedule will be good for your dodgy hip and back!

Yeah he'd definitely be good as a backup option, but to be honest he's not really up to this level in my opinion. When you're 21 and you've only made one first team appearance there's got to be questions asked about his talent and his potential development, especially when there are four first-team regulars younger than him. 

For me there are better players we could sign from ACFC than Howieson, I agree with what you say there. Tavano is having a blinder of a season and he can play anywhere from DM to striker, he'd be excellent backup. De Vries, McCowatt and Harry Edge are three other Kiwi nationals who could make the step up.

And hell yeah Tommy Smith!

You had me until the bolded part. Harry Edge is nowhere near HAL quality.

Fair enough, just realised that i implied he’s better than Howieson which is a bit stupid. Still rate him

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about 8 years ago
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about 8 years ago

RR wrote:

Good on him. This might be a tough gig, but he might use it as a 'springboard' later on.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 8 years ago

kwlap wrote:

Rossi!!?? thats a very big loss for us...

not based on this seasons showings, in my book.
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about 8 years ago

mrsmiis wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

I didn't say he was must... just an option, something we are limited by because of import rules.

Howieson seems to be doing well and has his confidence back - but I still don't rate him personally, I think his touch and option taking are poor too often.

Screw Colorado Smith - come to the A League and back to NZ, our reduced schedule will be good for your dodgy hip and back!

Yeah he'd definitely be good as a backup option, but to be honest he's not really up to this level in my opinion. When you're 21 and you've only made one first team appearance there's got to be questions asked about his talent and his potential development, especially when there are four first-team regulars younger than him. 

For me there are better players we could sign from ACFC than Howieson, I agree with what you say there. Tavano is having a blinder of a season and he can play anywhere from DM to striker, he'd be excellent backup. De Vries, McCowatt and Harry Edge are three other Kiwi nationals who could make the step up.

And hell yeah Tommy Smith!



The chances of either of those two turning up are very, very slim, especially Edge.
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about 8 years ago

Good on De Vries - the Japanese leagues are very competitive and well known in Asia, even J2.

This could be great for his career and who can blame him for not wanting to play for us at the moment?!


VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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