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Stadium Seating

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UberGunner wrote:
Quite frankly i always go to the games on my own, my season ticket is in the middle of the YF zone (22, row A) and I somehow manage to have a great time at every game, yelling and chanting. I think its the people who cant function socially unless they are in a pack, who struggle to get into the spirit of football without being pissed. I also manage to do this without drinking at the game. I have a few at the BB prior, but id rather spend my money on something other than warm Tui in a plastic bottle.


And me, and to be honest how the hell can you get pissed on that crap anyway?


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UberGunner wrote:
Quite frankly i always go to the games on my own, my season ticket is in the middle of the YF zone (22, row A) and I somehow manage to have a great time at every game, yelling and chanting. I think its the people who cant function socially unless they are in a pack, who struggle to get into the spirit of football without being pissed. I also manage to do this without drinking at the game. I have a few at the BB prior, but id rather spend my money on something other than warm Tui in a plastic bottle.


What he said

I too am on my tod in row G, doesn't stop me having a whale of a time - don't think I've had more than 2 beers at the game since the Newcastle pre-season game.

I'm at the end of the row - so get to say hello to everyone as they pass- G'Day!

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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It should be looked at as a good opportunity to talk with new people. Encourage them to join in with the chanting/singing. Eventually the zone will have to be expanded as it gets bigger. So now is the time to expand it. 
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The problem with expansion is people who bought there tickets close to the zone, but werent included on purpose will now find themeselves in the middle of the zone, and be expected to stand etc. If i had bought tickets in aisle 23 or 20 and suddenly told my season pass is now in the zone, i would be more than a little p'ed off.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Fair point. Encourage is the thing not force. It is also possible to sit and sing. Next season will be better as people will be better organised. Ticketek take note.
sanday2007-10-25 11:37:52
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UberGunner wrote:
Quite frankly i always go to the games on my own, my season ticket is in the middle of the YF zone (22, row A) and I somehow manage to have a great time at every game, yelling and chanting. I think its the people who cant function socially unless they are in a pack, who struggle to get into the spirit of football without being pissed. I also manage to do this without drinking at the game. I have a few at the BB prior, but id rather spend my money on something other than warm Tui in a plastic bottle.
 
Im so sorry you dont like beer at the game.I damn well do but your right, You tell me i cant drink at the game because you dont like it , sounds good to me. Im in my seat 2 out of 4 only becasue i bought the GF the other times.
 
Some of you posting here like to be in the YF zone but dont like what the YF zone is about - hard core fans.If you want to sit/stand and watch the game but still be involved stand in the next Aisle and you wont miss out but also wont be the other part of YF which is crazy!
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Personally I feel this is a bit pre-mature. But after a bit of thought I can see why it has been done. I feel the Phoenix management want to stamp this out before we get a full stadium for the Galaxy game. It works at the moment with everyone sitting in different seats. However if the stadium is full it will be a nightmare.

 

This year was a shambles when it came to tickets, alot of people (me inlcuded) had never supported a football team in a stadium so we didn't really know what to expect. I brought my season pass with my family when they first went on sale as a lot of my friends were going to buy a season ticket after the first game or didn't have enough money at the time (blame us students.) Usually at the games we rock in just at kick off as to insure that everyone one is standing in there seats. Then we find a few free seats in the zone and plant ourselves there. Thus far we have not been asked to move. If we were we would in a blink.

 

I push the atmosphere the most when I am trying to drag new people along. Now however it will be a lot more difficult   as I will have to say come join in at aisle 22 have a blast but I can't stand with you. I think this will put a stop to the growth of the fever zone.

 

Next year I think they could implement it at the start of the season - Get ticketek to tell people when they buy tickets that way everyone who wasn't sure about the Phoenix but came to love it later on in the season can get a ticket with there mates.

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sanday wrote:
It should be looked at as a good opportunity to talk with new people. Encourage them to join in with the chanting/singing. Eventually the zone will have to be expanded as it gets bigger. So now is the time to expand it. 
 
I'd recommend Ailse 20 & 21 - behind the goal. It could make a visiting goalkeeper or penalty taker very nervous - with all that noise!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I've sat behind the goal for half a game (due to my youngest son being terrified by an extremely drunken idiot (not a fever member) in the yellow fever zone)

its BORING!
there is no atmosphere
you would need to get a fair few people over there to get it going.
we sung and chanted with the YF and got stared at like we had horns on our heads!!

also remember the complimentary tickets are usually in this area
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Lonegunmen wrote:
sanday wrote:
It should be looked at as a good opportunity to talk with new people. Encourage them to join in with the chanting/singing. Eventually the zone will have to be expanded as it gets bigger. So now is the time to expand it. 
 
I'd recommend Ailse 20 & 21 - behind the goal. It could make a visiting goalkeeper or penalty taker very nervous - with all that noise!


yeah, it's a pity we weren't behind the goal when Moss was facing that penalty on Sunday - and the crowd imitating Moss' jerky Pacman left - right - left antics on the goal line; the effect would have been hilarious I reckon ...
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All things considered, being part of YF and wanting to sit in the FZ is not a free pass to act like a complete tool, sit in other peoples seats like it's a right, or be inconsiderate and overcrowd the aisles. It's not supposed to be like the Red Zone at the 7's, where you're basically there for a booze up and the football is just a side-show.
 
While some people may not mind standing in a group of 8 within a 3 seat space, others do. I'm fully prepared to tell people doing that near me to move on if it's causing a problem, but others may not, particularly if the offenders are loud, drunk and intimidating.
 
I like a beer as much as the next guy, and have had more than my share at all games so far, but I know that first and foremost I'm there to scream my lungs out for the 'Nix and watch some footy.
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.....Some of you posting here like to be in the YF zone but dont like what the YF zone is about - hard core fans.If you want to sit/stand and watch the game but still be involved stand in the next Aisle and you wont miss out but also wont be the other part of YF which is crazy!
 
Sounds dangerously close to a "we're better fans than you 'cos we're 'Hard Core''' thing?
 
So what does hard core actually mean then? I've only been involved with football for 40 years and was a season ticket holder at my club in Glasgow for around 20 of them. I've also been to 2 World Cups and followed Scotland home and away for years, so I'm obviously not in a position to know what's involved in being "hard core". Pouring piss all over people? Cramming as many of your mates into a row as you can get in there? Getting absolutely s**tfaced before, during and after the game?
 
Or does it mean, which I mistakenly thought it did, following your team no matter where and no matter what, singing and chanting and giving it as much vocals as you can for 90 minutes every week, and doing everything you possibly can to help the team. Nothing about getting pissed, spraying beer, standing/sitting in other people's seats  etc, etc, etc. But, hey, what do I know

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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All things considered, being part of YF and wanting to sit in the FZ is not a free pass to act like a complete tool, sit in other peoples seats like it's a right, or be inconsiderate and overcrowd the aisles.
 
That is fact.
 
And well said.
 
However I'm not sure that the allocated seating rules HAVE to be enforced in order to stop people acting like tools.
 
Also I think it's important to point out that this group/forum have never been advocates of any of the above - quite the opposite.
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Auckland Jag wrote:
 
So what does hard core actually mean then? I've only been involved with football for 40 years and was a season ticket holder at my club in Glasgow for around 20 of them. I've also been to 2 World Cups and followed Scotland home and away for years....


RESPECT

- You weren't one of the Scottish fans who tried to hire a submarine to get to the 1970 World Cup in Mexico?
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Or does it mean, which I mistakenly thought it did, following your team no matter where and no matter what, singing and chanting and giving it as much vocals as you can for 90 minutes every week, and doing everything you possibly can to help the team. Nothing about getting pissed, spraying beer, standing/sitting in other people's seats  etc, etc, etc. But, hey, what do I know
 
 
Exactly how it should be!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nah, I just got drunk and tried to swim there

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I bet you've got a piece of turf nicked in 77 from Wembley as well Jag?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
just reviewed some of the old Phoenix videos on youtube (did a search on 'phoenix goals') - and yes, I would definitely say crowd behaviour has changed
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I bet you've got a piece of turf nicked in 77 from Wembley as well Jag?
 
 
  I was there but I restrained myself to a bit of drunken Highland dancing on the park. Honest!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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- You weren't one of the Scottish fans who tried to hire a submarine to get to the 1970 World Cup in Mexico?
 
1978 in Argentina, surely? Scotland weren't there in 1970 and a sub would not have been needed for Germany in 74.
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1986 was in Mexico as well. Think the sub thing was Argentina tho'. I went to Spain in '82 and Italy in '90 (Great team Costa Rica, don't let anyone tell you different )

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Basically everyone has a right to support the team how THEY want to.I am not saying that you should sit in anyone else's seats, throw beer, or be a tool. But support the team how you want to.Just as if you guys want to sit and watch from the fever zone that is fine I have no problem there.But if im standing and singing and 1 in a seat in front of you and its mine and you ask me to sit down and stop being a tool i will let you have it.
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Roy I think you're going a bit far there.
 
What if you're tipping beer on my head as you 'support the team how you want to' - is that okay?
 
I think it's more a case of you can support the team how you want to as long as it doesn't impact on other peoples' enjoyment of the match. 
 
You might support the team by sitting, standing changing seats, taking your clothes off, wearing women's clothes, waving flags, drinking too much or spilling beer.
 
If any of those things are pissing off someone else I think you have to desist.
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DialSquare wrote:
Roy I think you're going a bit far there.
 
What if you're tipping beer on my head as you 'support the team how you want to' - is that okay?
 
I think it's more a case of you can support the team how you want to as long as it doesn't impact on other peoples' enjoyment of the match. 
 
You might support the team by sitting, standing changing seats, taking your clothes off, wearing women's clothes, waving flags, drinking too much or spilling beer.
 
If any of those things are pissing off someone else I think you have to desist.
 
that's a more accurate interpretation of libertarianism
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Support the team however you want, as long as it doesn't infringe upon the enjoyment of others. Pouring a beer on someones head isn't gonna help the 'Nix score. Respect your neighbours and remember - We're here to watch the football!
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exactly, common sense really. Ha I just saw Nandor walk past - man his hair is long
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Basically everyone has a right to support the team how THEY want to.I am not saying that you should sit in anyone else's seats, throw beer, or be a tool. But support the team how you want to.Just as if you guys want to sit and watch from the fever zone that is fine I have no problem there.But if im standing and singing and 1 in a seat in front of you and its mine and you ask me to sit down and stop being a tool i will let you have it.[/QUOTE]
 
The issue is not about sitting vs. standing, it's about people sitting in other peoples seats. The status quo of standing in the FZ will stay, no-one is disputing that, and the fact it's not an issue has been confirmed by Tony P himself.
 
Tony P wrote:
[QUOTE=Arsenal]I'm pretty sure the emphasis is on people being in their right seat (sitting or standing) and not forcing people to sit? Or am I completely wrong?
 
 
Correct.
 
The issue raised is that there are areas in the FZ that have too many people crowded together and, in the interest of both safety and the continued enjoyment of everyone in the FZ, that is going to be looked at.
 
Simple as that.
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But what if i want to sit in my allocated seat in aisle 22, and everyone in front of me is standing? Theyre infringing on my enjoyment of the match, since i can no longer see...
 
Sorry, just felt like being a sarcastic prick, no actual point to this post...

Allegedly

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Booster seat...
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Hard News wrote:
Ban Stick.
 
creates terror whenever it is brandished
 
the internet taser
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Auckland Jag wrote:
1986 was in Mexico as well. Think the sub thing was Argentina tho'. I went to Spain in '82 and Italy in '90 (Great team Costa Rica, don't let anyone tell you different )

Yep it was Argentina for deffo ,the trip was cancelled when the subs pie warmer broke down!

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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Tegal wrote:
But what if i want to sit in my allocated seat in aisle 22, and everyone in front of me is standing? Theyre infringing on my enjoyment of the match, since i can no longer see...

Depends. According to the map on the a-league site:

If you're south of the aisle 22 aisleway, you're in the fever zone and should expect to be standing.
If you're north of it you're not, and should sit down if requested as the person whose view you are blocking may have been assured when they purchased their season ticket that it wasn't in the fever zone (because they might not be physically up to standing for a whole game).

As the Galaxy tickets info page is telling people to ask for aisle 21 if they want to sit in the zone, I suspect that the zone is now officially north of 20 and south of 22 (rather than north of 21 and south of 22 as in the above map).

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
That did not make a word of sense to me at all.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Always thought the yellow fever zone looked redicuosly small. I wonder how difficult it would be to offically expand this area.  Suppose we'll just have to learn from our first season and make improvements as we head into the future.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You want to be able to sit in your allocated seat at every match and have a good view of the pitch with no worries about getting soaked in beer?
 
Come and join the Aisle 28 crew....keeping it real on the centre line, Phoenix 4EVA!!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Why not make the yellow fever zone unallocated seating....

In fact, for all of the seating.. mark it into 3 spots... silver, gold, yellow fever (and expand yellow fever out one more aisle). The current yf aisle will be the beer aisle.. and the one over from that will be the family and kids aisle - sans beer shower and general shenanigans.

No offence, but it's not like you're going to be selling out the stadium anytime soon (aside from Galaxy of course).

it's heading that way anyways, and will split up loads of friends from each other if and when seating is enforced... which is not the way to win potential fans over.

Just head to the game a few minutes earlier than usual to stake your claim - that way there'd be no arguments - if your usual spot is taken, build a bridge and go find somewhere else to shout from.

Going to the movies is alot better when you can sit where you feel comfortable, and the same goes for football.

spam2007-10-25 22:20:05
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spam wrote:
Why not make the yellow fever zone unallocated seating....

In fact, for all of the seating.. mark it into 3 spots... silver, gold, yellow fever (and expand yellow fever out one more aisle). The current yf aisle will be the beer aisle.. and the one over from that will be the family and kids aisle - sans beer shower and general shenanigans.

No offence, but it's not like you're going to be selling out the stadium anytime soon (aside from Galaxy of course).

it's heading that way anyways, and will split up loads of friends from each other if and when seating is enforced... which is not the way to win potential fans over.

Just head to the game a few minutes earlier than usual to stake your claim - that way there'd be no arguments - if your usual spot is taken, build a bridge and go find somewhere else to shout from.

Going to the movies is alot better when you can sit where you feel comfortable, and the same goes for football.



Can't agree with that, it would cause even more chaos, we'll be having turf wars the YF zone will turn into the gangs of New York
slacKers 632007-10-26 09:25:33
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Turf wars? You have a low opinion of us.

There would be no problem if it is understood in advance that it is unallocated.  
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