Stadium Seating

I disagree, Tranmere Rovers used to do it in their all-seater away end a few years back.

They abandoned it after half a season due to the problems with the crowds arguing over who stood where when etc and the crap their stewards and security got.

I don't have a low opinion of YF at all.

The point i was trying to make is that the media would make the comparisons. i know that we are not caged in at the ring of fire, but when each row is two people deep, and your knee's are crushed against the row of chairs infront, plus you have drunk people who can barley stand, some one would inevitably get hurt, and the media would have a field day with it. And the club and supporters would all suffer.

Tranmere changed the policy because, basically incidents happened such as, people going to the toilet, bar or wherever and coming back to find their seats taken by someone else (especially if they had really good central seats), hence loads of trouble all the while.

And lets face it stewards don't want to be dealing with disputes amongst factions of away support.

Especially if its the likes of Cardiff, Bham, Wolves or Stoke etc visiting.

You are on the money UberGunner

as well as anyone wanting to be in the YF zone having to get there as soon as the gates opened to ensure a seat, thus foregoing precious drinking / BBQ time at the BB. That would be tragic

Thanks for that.. It's not the same.. with unallocated seating it wouldn't be everyone squishing in because you wouldn't have people getting all pissy about which seats are "theirs" and trying to stand their ground resulting in squishing and annoyed people. Note my mention of expanding it out another aisle so that people aren't climbing all over each other.

But thanks for your calm and measured response to my suggestion.

I wish I could slap some manners into some mean, wound up individuals across the internet.




spam2007-10-26 11:24:33

I dont think throwing beer over other people is good at all.

UberGunner2007-10-26 11:46:32

I think it was calling someone stupid and worthy of a slapping that was the issue - rebutting the argument with an opposing viewpoint is fine, but don't be surprised if people don't remember the good points you make if you decide to embellish them with something that borders on abuse.

By the way, I know the attendances were less but the first two Phoenix games at the Stadium were unallocated seating.

both spam and ubergunner have good points. Unallocated seating with an extension of YFZ is a good idea in theory...but you are correct to say that it would still get overcrowded around the players tunnel. Tegal2007-10-26 12:39:21

Can't agree Tegal, I think it'll just turn to custard very quickly.

At the end of the day, why have we got to have something different from proven systems from football stadia all round the world? I've never heard whinging from any football fan  about not having unallocated seating at their home grounds other than a minority on this forum.

Maybe we should just ask the club to move a block of seats out and have a section of terracing behind the goals and pen people in to recreate a old hard core atmosphere to cater for the those who obviously want it.

We could set up a stall selling fake Burberry baseball caps as well to bring some funds in for YF.




slacKers 632007-10-26 13:35:19

Frankie's wearing this next game:


Hard News2007-10-26 13:50:13

I dont go with unallocated seating,for one reason only.Why should those of us who have and will stick with the Phoenix miss out to all the johnnie come latelys who will front up once the real good times start.As for getting "pissy" when asked to move along if some of us have shown loyalty by buying season passes that gives us the right over those who only after seeing what the YF zone is like have decided thats the place to go.

Only thing is that season ticket holders are also among those not taking their allocated seats and moving around. I am one of those. Like I said elsewhere, I feel like I got shafted by Ticketek with my actual seat allocation as it didn't match my desired location. I wish I had bought my season ticket later as it was buying early that caught me out. If I had wait until after the first match, I would have known. As people have been moving around, it has never been an issue. Now I need to consider asking Ticketek for an exchange... but I know that's going to be a problem, so will most likely have to wait until next season to get the seats I actually want... That will teach me for buying season tickets early.

Frankie can bring his dog along as well.

Lets all just agree to blame ticketek and go on our merry way

You're a season ticket holder with your allocated seat.. what happens when a few friends want to come along and check it out, have a few beers and sit with you and see what all the fuss is about?

Allocated seating is sweet as when you're an established club with half the crowd owning season passes...

that's where the problem lies.. it's the first season and people are just testing the waters really. I was going to take a few mates along to the next game but if they're going to be ticket nazis we're probably going to wind up in aisle 30 wondering where all the fun went.

the majority of ticket holders in yf will not have season passes and it's near impossible to get seats with your friends unless you all buy tickets from ticketek at exactly the same time and rely on them not to muck it up.

If people want to risk permanent disability by packing themselves in like sardines nearest to the tunnel then they're probably the ones who go out of their way to fling bottles at the players anyway.

Righto , thats this season f***ed then.

My point is that there shouldn't be 'your seat, my seat' until the 2nd season at least when the fan base has been properly established.

Have you not noticed that over the last few home games the yf zone has just been getting bigger and bigger? it's because people are inviting their friends along to join in the fun......

Friends who might buy season tickets next year... = $$$$ = Tony P = happy chappy = yf zone that is welcoming to newbies and a fun place to be instead of elbow in face territory because some territorial chap simply cannot relinquish "his" spot.

My seat is in LL with a couple of other people.. but I don't have a cry when other people squish in, maybe some git took their seat, maybe they're new. Maybe they just think I smell pleasant. As long as they're polite and don't leave me unable to breathe I'm not going to fight about it.

Have a nice weekend :)

Sam.

Just out of interest, could anybody confirm that the Phoenix are the only team in the world whose hardcore supporters group at the corner flag?

Because the place is circular (for cricket) the corners are the the only places that aren't a mile from the pitch. I think it's a good posi, actually.

I think Tourets is one of the many fans I have spoke to who are disturbed by the OTT comments and general negativity on some of these threads (Hillsborough ffs?). Half the people commenting don't even dwell in the FeverZone.

About time some of these threads were locked seems the same thing is being repeated over and over again.All its really doing is dragging every thing out for longer than it needs to be.

yeah good point. Closed due to many wet blankets.