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TAB odds are up

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
terminator_x wrote:
You're right HN, Smeltzy's sh*t actually, when you think about it.

 
I think it was 7 goals not from penalties so that would have placed him with Joel Griffiths in the middle of the golden boot, and one of the stats I found interesting was that he never scored an away goal for us last year, apart from penalties. Hopefully he repeats that this year so he doesn't bang any in at the ROF.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Greenacre has a history of knee-knack and has played 30 minutes of the Phoenix pre-season.

Not exactly displayed form.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Fair point, but I thought he might have been given a little shorter odds looking at his record and potential.
 
Oh well, I'm sure if he bangs them in in China they'll come down.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Greenacre has a history of knee-knack and has played 30 minutes of the Phoenix pre-season.

Not exactly displayed form.

30mins more than Fowler.

I do suspect that some of those odds are influenced by Australian punters backing their team and its players ...

...rather than rationally picking Greenacre
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think our odds are a little out there but its probably because;

1. Pre-season hasn't been that great.
2. Because by giving crazy odds it will stimulate us to bet for the nix because we think we could win big!
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
4. Greenacre as the marksman (you reckon Hard News) hasn't scored yet.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Centrebet's odds for this weekend;
 
X = draw
 
1 x 2  
MELBOURNE VICTORY vs CENTRAL COAST MARINERS Start:
 
Closing:
 
Market is open. Pay on result after normal time
1. MELBOURNE VICTORY
2. CENTRAL COAST MARINERS
1.55  3.65  6.00     
ADELAIDE UTD vs PERTH GLORY Start:
 
Closing:
 
Market is open. Pay on result after normal time
1. ADELAIDE UTD
2. PERTH GLORY
2.15  3.20  3.25     
NORTH QUEENSLAND FURY vs SYDNEY FC Start:
 
Closing:
 
Market is open. Pay on result after normal time
1. NORTH QUEENSLAND FURY
2. SYDNEY FC
3.25  3.25  2.15     
BRISBANE ROAR vs GOLD COAST UNITED Start:
 
Closing:
 
Market is open. Pay on result after normal time
1. BRISBANE ROAR
2. GOLD COAST UNITED
2.55  3.25  2.60     
NEWCASTLE JETS vs WELLINGTON PHOENIX Start:
 
Closing:
 
Market is open. Pay on result after normal time
1. NEWCASTLE JETS
2. WELLINGTON PHOENIX
1.95  3.30  3.75 
 
The Aussies have written us off - Oh is would be sooooo sweet to start the season with a win at Newcastle.
Whitby boy2009-08-03 19:33:53
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i think its fair enough that our odds are that but maybe thats just me..Losing our 2 best players and replacing them with injury-prone 30 somethings (no matter what their past pedigree is),isnt good form from a punters perspective and naturally is reflected in higher odds. And yes,maybe inflated a bit by aussie not willing to bet on a kiwi team Tegal2009-08-04 11:27:44

Allegedly

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tegal wrote:
i think its fair enough that our odds are that but maybe thats just me..Losing our 2 best players and replacing them with injury-prone 30 somethings (no matter what their past pedigree is),isnt good form from a punters perspective and naturally is reflected in higher odds. And yes,maybe inflated a bit by aussie not willing to bet on a kiwi team


You referring to Ifill? He's 29
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Knew someone would get me out on that. Close enough point still stands. Im not saying i agree with the odds (im tempted to go put a tenner or so on myself),i just see how they came to them.
 
Look at Nth Qlnd vs nix from a basic betting point of view...
 
Average players + injury prone robbie folwer from the likes of liverpool and man city VS average players + injury prone greenacre from tranmere
 
Again,not saying i agree,i can just see the bookies side...If you dont like the odds,beat them

Allegedly

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The way we have been treated by the media across the Tasman I am surprised that we are only paying $3.75, albeit against a prety average Jets lineup. I'd have thought they'd have been more likely to put us at $5-6, like CCM, given the coverage we have received, and our apparent certainty to receive the wooden spoon. If we play two up front I'd say $3.75 is pretty good money.

Roar GCU is an interesting one, there will be a lot of passion there, don't know who I'll chuck money on, draw possibly a goer?
 
Victory hands down, probably Sydney (outside chance of a draw?), and Perth Adelaide is probably paying about right I'd say.
 
As for Ifill/Greenacre and injury prone- injuries don't come into it for one-off games, unless either is injured at the start. Injury-prone will come into it for any med-long term bets.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Can I go in and put on an 'ad hoc' bet in the TAB such as Greenacre to win the Golden Boot??
 
Not 100% on how the TAB works here?
 
I can't see any such option for betting on their website for example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
No, not ad hoc, but they do have a book open for the Golden Boot.  They opened Greenacre at $67 but he's now in to the twenties.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
No, not ad hoc, but they do have a book open for the Golden Boot.  They opened Greenacre at $67 but he's now in to the twenties.
 
Damn!
 
Do you have to ask them for those odds at the desk then? I've never seen anything like that on the boards?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
NZ TAB only has tournament winner open Newsboy
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Game odds


Jets $2
Nix  $3.50
Draw $3.25


Get on a win or draw!
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Surely we won't lose. They are wooden spoons from last season and t hey are totally out of sorts. might put twenty on the win


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Careful, you are sounding awfully like the Aussie commentators, logic-wise.
Doesn't always work that way.

I know, I know, its serious!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
playwithFire wrote:
Surely we won't lose. They are wooden spoons from last season and t hey are totally out of sorts. might put twenty on the win


Got $20 on win, $10 on draw. gets me $70 if they win (and satisfaction = priceless) and still profit if  draw for cover
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

sounds like a cunning plan


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Doing a multi: Head to head, Melbourne over Coast, Sydney over Fury, Phoenix over Jets. $10 gives me a $128.80 return. Get in.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Good plan.
Actually an A-League multibet pools approach would be a damn fine idea to increase interest in A-League (hint hint TAB & SKY TV)

I know, I know, its serious!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
TAB does a pools bet on the EPL, looks like they are doing live betting on the Nix game, so might hold fire backing them untill I see how they start off the game.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ryan's Rovers wrote:

TAB does a pools bet on the EPL ...


My point exactly. Creating one for the A-League could be mutually beneficial (although one suspects bizarrely that SKY may be less than keen on seeing A-League viewing really flourish).

I know, I know, its serious!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
According to Centrebet; not the wooden spoon favourites any more;
 
NORTH QUEENSLAND FURY 2.35  WELLINGTON PHOENIX 4.50  NEWCASTLE JETS 6.00  PERTH GLORY 6.00  ADELAIDE UTD 13.00  CENTRAL COAST MARINERS 15.00  SYDNEY FC 29.00  BRISBANE ROAR 34.00  MELBOURNE VICTORY 41.00  GOLD COAST UNITED 51.00 
 
also moved 1 place up the finish in the Top 6 "league table".
 
GOLD COAST UNITED 1.08  SYDNEY FC 1.10  MELBOURNE VICTORY 1.13  BRISBANE ROAR 1.25  ADELAIDE UTD 1.44  CENTRAL COAST MARINERS 1.53  NEWCASTLE JETS 1.90  PERTH GLORY 1.90  WELLINGTON PHOENIX 2.50  NORTH QUEENSLAND FURY 3.00 
 
Looking forward to watching us work our way up the tables over the next couple of months. 
Whitby boy2009-08-17 19:49:29
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
1 more win away from any credit!!!
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Another week and we move another place up Centrebet's rankings;
 
Minor Premiers
 
Win  
 
Minor Premiership 2009/10 - Minor Premiership GOLD COAST UNITED 2.35  SYDNEY FC 4.00  MELBOURNE VICTORY 4.50  CENTRAL COAST MARINERS 12.00  BRISBANE ROAR 13.00  ADELAIDE UTD 17.00  PERTH GLORY 17.00  WELLINGTON PHOENIX 23.00  NEWCASTLE JETS 26.00  NORTH QUEENSLAND FURY 67.00 
Whitby boy2009-08-24 15:00:03
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Anyone know why TAB here aren't doing first goalscorer bets this season? It's a bit annoying - surely one of the most popular bets in football??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
NZ odds:

1 Melbourne Victory $4.75 Melbourne Victory 2 Brisbane Roar $7.00 Brisbane Roar 3 Sydney FC
$6.00 Sydney FC 4
Gold Coast United
$3.85 Gold Coast United 5 Adelaide United $10.00 Adelaide United 6 Central Coast Mariners $9.00 Central Coast Mariners 7 Perth Glory $14.00 Perth Glory 8 Newcastle Jets
$14.00 Newcastle Jets 9 North Queensland Fury $30.00 North Queensland Fury 10 Wellington Phoenix $20.00 Wellington Phoenix

Fourth on table and 2nd to last with the TAB..
homer_simpson2009-08-24 16:58:21
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Its not too bad. If you think we got a chance then take a bet.
Any reason why the team names are there twice?


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
playwithFire wrote:

Any reason why the team names are there twice?



Coz I f**ked up
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
TAB odds in July
 
$3.75  Melbourne Victory
$4.50  Brisbane Roar
$7.00  Sydney FC
$7.00  Gold Coast United
$10.00 Adelaide United
$12.00 Central Coast Mariners
$12.00 Perth Glory
$16.00 Newcastle Jets
$16.00 North Queensland Fury
$28.00 Wellington Phoenix

Interesting to compare the above TAB rankings and odds (before the season had kicked off) with the latest Centrebet rankings and odds (for the Championship). The number in brackets is the teams movement in ranking;
 
$2.35  Sydney FC (+2)
$3.00  Melbourne Victory (-1)
$4.50  Gold Coast United (+1)
$9.00 Newcastle Jets (+4)
$19.00 Perth Glory (+2)
$19.00 Wellington Phoenix (+4)
$26.00  Brisbane Roar (-5)
$34.00 Central Coast Mariners (-2)
$51.00 Adelaide United (-4)
$51.00 North Queensland Fury (-1)
 
Big movers up are the Jets and Nix, big movers down are the Roar and Adelaide.
 
Centrebet now have us making the play-offs !!

 
Whitby boy2010-01-12 18:41:38
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
a win this week should shave a couple of bucks off that.
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We are now 5th, above Perth, on both the NZ and Aussie TAB :)
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
aussie TAB doesn't have first goal scorer option either
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
savaged1 wrote:
aussie TAB doesn't have first goal scorer option either
 
Centrebet offers a combination bet - games first scorer and game score. You can get a decent payout for a $1 bet - Browny and 3-1 paid $111.
 
Assuming the Nix score first (which we have done the last few weeks) the "beauty" of the bet is your first goal scorer will, most of the time, be Ifill, Greeny, Dadi or Browny - the tricky bit is then picking the score.
Whitby boy2010-01-13 08:53:33
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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