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Target performance

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Target performance
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Target season performance: win at home, draw away from home (or win at home and win every third game on the road, approximately, depending on the exact number of games).

Now, I'm starting with this idea, only because it used to be, as far as I can remember, a golden rule in football (pre-Premier League and before a winger and a centre forward merged into this striker thing and when numbers on the shirt corresponded to the position a player played in)... anyway!

In Euro leagues it could be expressed as two thirds of the points available, as there's equal number of home and away games, with each team playing twice against each other per season.

In the current A-league this ratio will vary very slightly, depending on the draw and the odd number of games. Anyway, the principle is that the target points equal two thrids of the available points.

So, I've played around with the this season's fixture list and noticed the following:

Points available for the season: 81.
Target season total (based on the principle above and applied to the actual fixture list): 55 or (67.90%) of the total available points.


Points available to date: 54.
Points target to date (again based on the principle above and the actual fixture list): 38 or (70.37%) of the total available points.

Points won to date: 27 or (71.05%) of the points target or (50.00%) of the available points.

Current leaders, CCM, are approximately on target (considering a game less they've had and not knowing their exact distribution of home and away matches).

I'm not sure how to paste tables into here, hence no data, but these are some of my thoughts:

1. If we continue on target from now on, we'd collect 44 points in total. Last season (adjusted for different number of games by using the 2/3 ratio) it'd have placed us 3rd equal on points with Adelaide, and in 09/10 season it'd have placed us 3rd equal on points with Gold Coast.

2. In most seasons achieving the whole season target performance would've meant we'd come 1st. I think you'd agree that 2nd would do us just fine, though. However, even this means very little margin for non-achievement of the target; only 3 points last year, for example. In other years, you could afford two home losses of the planned all wins, for example.

So... after all this fluff, we come back to the question: is it fair that we expect that our team wins all the games at home (and be allowed to drop 3-6 points at home, for example), and wins every third game on the road?

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I fell asleep after the first paragraph

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
he's basically saying LETS GET MAXIMUM POINTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hm, I meant more like let's aim to win two thirds of the games (or shall I say the points equivalent) and allow ourselves some slack to underperform by up to six points or so to that target... looks easy on paper, huh?
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Arsen wrote:
Target season performance: win at home, draw away from home (or win at home and win every third game on the road, approximately, depending on the exact number of games).

Now, I'm starting with this idea....


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So... after all this fluff, we come back to the question: is it fair that we expect that our team wins all the games at home (and be allowed to drop 3-6 points at home, for example), and wins every third game on the road?



Good points you make there. I would first like to see the length of your anorak before I agree or disagree with you .

Junior822012-01-21 11:45:28

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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I had to google the colloquial meaning of anorak... Not much of a nerd, I'm afraid, more of a blind optimist!haha

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Arsen wrote:
Not much of a nerd, I'm afraid


Then I disagree.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'm happy with that, as long as we reach the target for the rest of the season
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Arsen wrote:

So... after all this fluff, we come back to the question: is it fair that we expect that our team wins all the games at home (and be allowed to drop 3-6 points at home, for example), and wins every third game on the road?

 
Yes, that's championship form per conventional wisdom. And why the league leaders are the only ones to be tracking on target.
 
Of course, it's not that simple when you get to a league whose championship is decided by playoffs.
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
^I agree!

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I guess we're stuck with the playoffs, as we don't have a cup competition or two or an incentive of a couple of european competitions...
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So basically are you saying that we should try to get enough points to make it to the play-offs, and then win every game in the play-offs?

Yeah well I kinda agree with that actually.

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh, no... I think I forgot to qualify that my whole post refers to the pre-playoffs stage!!! Sorry!haha

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Arsen wrote:
Oh, no... I think I forgot to qualify that my whole post refers to the pre-playoffs stage!!! Sorry!haha

So basically you are saying we are gonna win the League?

We kinda realised that last night but yeah, I'd agree with that evaulation.

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh, no... I should've been clearer... what I meant is that if we get the points equivalent of winning home games (maybe drawing a couple) and winning every third away game, while losing the other two, we'd collect enough points, based on the past few seasons, to finish the pre-playoffs part of the season in the 1st or 2nd place to give us the best shot in the playoffs...
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Rocket science stuff.... Win games and get in the playoffs. Thats obviously what we have been doing wrong 

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think if you asked Rici and the players they's say that theya re already targetting this.....however targets and reality are often not the same. Every team will at the start of a season be wanting to win most of their home games and some away to get max points, the reality is that someone has to fail for the others to succeed.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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