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Team v Melbourne

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Team v Melbourne
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Thoughts on the side for Saturday night v Melbourne?
 
Factors:
AW's and Elrich back in the mix
Steven Old suspended
No injuries to speak of
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I really wanna know what formation Ricki's going to play
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                                   Moss                              
        O'Dor        Dodd           Rees             Lockhead   
 
       Ferrante        Johnson        Brown         Daneil
 
                                  Aloisi
 
                             Smeltz
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
When will people learn... O'Dor cannot play at fullback!!!!!!!!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I loved the 3-5-2 last night - I wonder if Ricki would be tempted to do the same with the Phoenix given the personnel he has...
 
Moss
O'Dor - Rees - Dodd
Lia-Brown-Aloisi-Daniel-Lochhead
Elrich-Smeltz
 
Paston, Felipe, Christie, Ferrante
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                            moss
 
               Dodd    Rees     O'Dor
 
Ferrante      Brown      Lia         Lochead
 
                   Daniel    Campos
                           Smeltz
 
or swap lochead for Odor and put daniel out left and bring in Elrich.
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TouchMe wrote:
                            moss
 
               Dodd    Rees     O'Dor
 
Ferrante      Brown      Lia         Lochead
 
                   Daniel    Campos
                           Smeltz
 
or swap lochead for Odor and put daniel out left and bring in Elrich.
 
3 - 5 - 2, is definatley the way to go, utilises all our attacking midfielders. With Rees in the middle the back looks really strong.
theprof2007-11-22 12:54:02

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i'd like to see:
 
If 3 at the back;
 
                       Moss
            
            O'Dor  Dodd    Rees
 
                      Brown
Ferrante    Aloisi    daniel      Lochhead
              
                  Smeltz   Filipe
 
If 4 at the back;
 
                        Moss
 
Ferrante  Rees     Dodd    Lochhead

Elrich       Brown    Aloisi    Daniel
                       Filipe
                                   
                      Smeltz   
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
C'mon WB4A - Ferrante at fullback?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I loved the 3-5-2 last night - I wonder if Ricki would be tempted to do the same with the Phoenix given the personnel he has...
 
Moss
O'Dor - Rees - Dodd
Lia-Brown-Aloisi-Daniel-Lochhead
Elrich-Smeltz
 
Paston, Felipe, Christie, Ferrante
if we play 352 that is my favourite - although arguably you could put elrich at wide right and felipe behind smeltz
 
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C'mon WB4A - Ferrante at fullback?
 
Haha I was waiting for someone to comment on that.
 
Well Ferrante was superb last week as a wing back, and Christie has gone off the boil a bit recently... and no O'Dor cannot play there!
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I loved the 3-5-2 last night - I wonder if Ricki would be tempted to do the same with the Phoenix given the personnel he has...
 
 
 
Ricki just uses the AWs as his puppet to try out things. Do 3-5-2 with Lochy but lose Christie

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                                Moss
 
                    O-Dor - Rees - Dodd
               
Ferrante   -    Aloisi - Filipe - Brown  -   Lochead
                     
                               Smeltz
 
 
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Colvinator wrote:
                                Moss
 
                    O-Dor - Rees - Dodd
               
Ferrante   -    Aloisi - Filipe - Brown  -   Lochead
                     
                               Smeltz
 
 
 
Do you think we only need 10 players against Melbourne or something...?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
lol at no selecting elrich...... haha
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Colvinator wrote:
                                Moss
 
                    O-Dor - Rees - Dodd
               
Ferrante   -    Aloisi - Filipe - Brown  -   Lochead
                     
                               Smeltz
 
 
 
Do you think we only need 10 players against Melbourne or something...?
 
Not easy to pick a Phoenix team whilst alt-tabbing to your work every time someone walks past!!!!!
 
Ok:
                                 Moss
 
                    O-Dor - Rees - Dodd
               
                                Brown
Ferrante   -         Aloisi - Elrich -  -   Lochead
 
                               Felipe
                               Smeltz
 
Essentially it's 3-5-2. Though Felipe naturally drops back to midfield a reasonable amount. Brown playing a reasonably defensive midfield position.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Reasonably happy with that team but not sure how Elrich would got at centre mid

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
When will people learn... O'Dor cannot play at fullback!!!!!!!!!
 Christie seems to get away with it, can't see O'dor being any worse than the slow turning Christie who all attackers love playing against.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I fyou look criticially at the Sydney game though we actually created very few chances despite defending well.  Perhaps the approach we are looking for away against Melbourne but I think we're a better side than that

Normo's coming home

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This is quite an attacking team, its more based on the formation with players that can play in those positions bracketed as they could be picked. In saying that this is my preferred starting XI, only selection issue is Elrich, his fitness and defensive capabilities and if that is a problem seeing Daniel benched (or on the left for lochead who in turn displaces O'Dor) and Elrich moving further forward and Ferrante to play on the right.


                                Moss
 
                    O-Dor - Rees - Dodd
               
                        Aloisi   Brown (or Johnson, Lia)
Elrich (or Ferrante)                                       Lochead
                      Felipe            Daniel (if ferrante picked on the right, Elrich to start instead of daniel)
                               Smeltz
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Hard News wrote:
Mariners 3-0.
   Phoenix 1 Mariner 2  [ thanks Jeremy ]
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                               Moss

          Dodd           Rees        Lochhead

                             Brown

          Aloisi                          Johnson

Elrich                                                 Daniel

                    Felipe
       
                                    Smeltz

I think a 3-1-2-2-1-1 could work well provided Daniel and Elrich drop back every now and then.
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ya, that team u have there is the winner, simple as that, although u may want to simplify it a tad :P
o and swap dodd and rees, dodd must take the middle

essentially u have 6+ deferders when defending and 7ish on attack when defending, mids have to do a hell f a lot of work and thus should be subs, so mids need to be on the bench for this formation to work.
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------------------Moss----------------
--Dodd--Ress--Lockhead--O'Dor--
----------------Brown----------------
----Aloisi------------------Daniel----
----------------Elrich-----------------
---------Felipe---------Smeltz-------
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Mariners 3-0.
   Phoenix 1 Mariner 2  [ thanks Jeremy ]


Yeah but that was one mistake. O'Dor made mistakes leading to 3 goals and also made several more glaring errors.

btw do you guys really think Ricki will play 3 at the back away from home? Not sure. Hope he does though.
valeo2007-11-22 15:50:49

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valeo wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Mariners 3-0.
   Phoenix 1 Mariner 2  [ thanks Jeremy ]


Yeah but that was one mistake. O'Dor made mistakes leading to 3 goals and also made several more glaring errors.

btw do you guys really think Ricki will play 3 at the back away from home? Not sure. Hope he does though.


With the way our L and R back overlap it sometimes leaves us with only 2 at the back and open for counter attack, which is what has lead to a lot of goals. I think with 3 at the back we will have 3 at the back at all times (just about).
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muso wrote:
ya, that team u have there is the winner, simple as that, although u may want to simplify it a tad :P o and swap dodd and rees, dodd must take the middleessentially u have 6+ deferders when defending and 7ish on attack when defending, mids have to do a hell f a lot of work and thus should be subs, so mids need to be on the bench for this formation to work.


by loyalgunner

                 Moss

          Rees           Dodd       Lochhead

                             Brown

          Aloisi                          Johnson

Elrich                                                 Daniel

                    Felipe
       
                                    Smeltz

Substitutes: Paston, O'Dor, Ferrante, and Lia

I think a 3-1-2-2-1-1 could work well provided Daniel and Elrich drop back every now and then.
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Hard News wrote:
Mariners 3-0.


Hey News, can we set things up so that your post will appear immediately after any suggestion that we play O'Dor at full back

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I could do what I did with the name of that Celtic defender, but I need to think of what text.

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valeo wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Mariners 3-0.
   Phoenix 1 Mariner 2  [ thanks Jeremy ]


Yeah but that was one mistake. O'Dor made mistakes leading to 3 goals and also made several more glaring errors.

btw do you guys really think Ricki will play 3 at the back away from home? Notes sure. Hope he does though.
   One mistake , yeah right. Jeremy is the weakest link in the team !!!! 
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AVFCvillan wrote:
------------------Moss----------------
--Dodd--Ress--Lockhead--O'Dor--
----------------Brown----------------
----Aloisi------------------Daniel----
----------------Elrich-----------------
---------Felipe---------Smeltz-------


good god sort your defensive line... for the love of...
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I'm glad Ricki's in charge, I haven't seen a team yet that impresses me
 
I like 3-6-1, but maybe a bit agreesive for an away game
 
                             Moss 

            Dodd            Rees             Lochhead 
                       Johnson    Brown         
Elrich                                                     Daniel 
                      Aloisi             Felipe 
                               Smeltz 
bench: Ferrente, Lia, Paston, O'Dor

So maybe a  4-5-1  to start with option to push Felipe up to make 4-4-2                                        
                            
                                Moss 

 Ferrante          Dodd            Rees             Lochhead 
                        Johnson/Brown  
Elrich                         Aloisi                             Daniel 
                                  Felipe 
                               Smeltz 
 
bench: Brwon/Johnson, Lia, Paston, O'Dor
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betters wrote:
I'm glad Ricki's in charge, I haven't seen a team yet that impresses me
 
I like 3-6-1, but maybe a bit agreesive for an away game
 
                             Moss 

            Dodd            Rees             Lochhead 
                       Johnson    Brown         
Elrich                                                     Daniel 
                      Aloisi             Felipe 
                               Smeltz 
bench: Ferrente, Lia, Paston, O'Dor

So maybe a  4-5-1  to start with option to push Felipe up to make 4-4-2                                        
                            
                                Moss 

 Ferrante          Dodd            Rees             Lochhead 
                        Johnson/Brown  
Elrich                         Aloisi                             Daniel 
                                  Felipe 
                               Smeltz 
 
bench: Brwon/Johnson, Lia, Paston, O'Dor


lol.. and thats simply y your not in charge..

problem 1: you say no teams have impressed you, yet u want to play 6 in the midfield and put players in exactly the same spot as loyalgunner(love your work dude) with felipes official title as "attacking midfield" instdead of striker of SS

problem 2: you put ferrante at fullback??>?>!
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well he can't shoot from there
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muso wrote:
ya, that team u have there is the winner, simple as that, although u may want to simplify it a tad :P
o and swap dodd and rees, dodd must take the middle

essentially u have 6+ deferders when defending and 7ish on attack when defending, mids have to do a hell f a lot of work and thus should be subs, so mids need to be on the bench for this formation to work.


good point re needing mids on the bench with 3,5,2 - a lesson to be learnt after sydney game (though to be fair to Sully, there weren't many spare mids around last weekend)
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-------------------Moss
----Rees---------Dodd--------------Lochead

------------Johnson-------Brown
-----Elrich--------Aloisi------------Daniel

-----------Filipe-----------Smeltz


This formation worked for 90mins last week and with Smeltz and Brown bck i mid field and up front, and Lochead back in, this will be a winning team in Melbourne.

Bench
Lia, Ferrante, Patson, O'Dour (only comes on if someones injured)
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Drewy wrote:
-------------------Moss
----Rees---------Dodd--------------Lochead

------------Johnson-------Brown
-----Elrich--------Aloisi------------Daniel

-----------Filipe-----------Smeltz


This formation worked for 90mins last week and with Smeltz and Brown bck i mid field and up front, and Lochead back in, this will be a winning team in Melbourne.

Bench
Lia, Ferrante, Patson, O'Dour (only comes on if someones injured)


i like tht team, it would be my pick. good balance btween pushing forward and defending

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                               Moss

          Dodd           Rees        Lochhead

                             Brown

          Aloisi                          Johnson

Elrich                                                 Daniel

                    Felipe
       
                                    Smeltz

I think a 3-1-2-2-1-1 could work well provided Daniel and Elrich drop back every now and then.
 
Agreed. Some of these teams are shocking.
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