To the Bandwagoners trying to get back on board...
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There is a seat for you in storage class, if you would care to apologise to Ricki for trying to get him sacked and the players for telling them that they were wooden spooners and you had no faith in them.
Would be nice to see the humble pie scoffed in one sitting too and then be forgotten about.
Would be nice to see the humble pie scoffed in one sitting too and then be forgotten about.
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lol this thread is just asking for trouble.
Ah well,should be amusing.
Allegedly
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Guilty as Sin! Now where's my Pie?
C-Diddy2008-11-30 21:12:37
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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I said that we were playing crap (and we were) but I was never off the bandwagon :P The only way i'll stop supporting is if we get kicked out of the league. (hopefully it doesn't come to that)
valeo2008-11-30 21:15:14
valeo2008-11-30 21:15:14
a.haak
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Yes I am being an arrogant f**kwit, but I never trashed my team when they were down or 'because its my right because I paid for my ticket' and blah blah blah
Its time for those that talked smack to show a little humility to the team because the team has been fronting up. And before anyone says 'well its about time' or 'they are paid to front up' then remember that you are entitled to be fans and support your team and admit when you had no faith.
Its time for those that talked smack to show a little humility to the team because the team has been fronting up. And before anyone says 'well its about time' or 'they are paid to front up' then remember that you are entitled to be fans and support your team and admit when you had no faith.
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So we aren't allowed to criticize when they play badly? After that Adelaide game where they showed no passion whatsoever everyone had a right to be angry.
The sack Ricki thread was over the top though.
The sack Ricki thread was over the top though.
a.haak
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im sorry 
Scottishbhoy2008-11-30 21:18:51
Scottishbhoy2008-11-30 21:18:51ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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Guilty as Sin! Now where's my Pie?
The good thing about pie is when you are eating it, everything else seems to be forgotten.
Brass balls man.
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I always had faith but I haven't been shy about criticising when I felt the performances deserved it. Don't think I ever called for Ricki's head tho'! I've never really panned any of the players either, apart from LLG and Mulligan.
You're a feisty little sausage this evening, A47!
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I panned Dodd when he played midfield as his passing was atrocious. He isn't a midfielder though so that was Ricki's fault more than anything.
a.haak
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So we aren't allowed to criticize when they play badly? After that Adelaide game where they showed no passion whatsoever everyone had a right to be angry.
The sack Ricki thread was over the top though.
The sack Ricki thread was over the top though.
The person I have the most sympathy for in this world as a fan is the Mad Butcher as that man has blind loyalty to the Warriors like no man has. When they were sh*t, he copped an earful. Every year when they lose 7 on the trot and the 'Warriors are crap' stuff starts, he never loses the faith. But every year, they come back and so do the band wagoners. We should take a little lesson from that.
Its fine to be critical on a performance but 'sack Ricki' and 'We are the knights in disguise' are just OTT and smack of bandwagoner tendancies from those that only want the good times. Being critical is good if you can then provide a solution. Saying 'We are sh*t' does nothing except expose bandwangoners and you can see them all trying to get back on board now.
New Zealand suffers from bandwagoner syndrome in general because when the All Blacks lose, stop the press, ground the planes, open a royal commission of enquiry. Yet we are still consistently the best team in the world. I'd hate to be lumped in the same boat as a thugby supporter.
Agent 472008-11-30 21:33:00
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name and shame
Greek-boi??
Micheal you no you did it
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I always had faith but I haven't been shy about criticising when I felt the performances deserved it. Don't think I ever called for Ricki's head tho'! I've never really panned any of the players either, apart from LLG and Mulligan.
You're a feisty little sausage this evening, A47!
Sunburned from the fine Wellington weather my friend.
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Auskiwi
www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com
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I would never call for Ricki's head, why? Because collectors item or not my fave t-shirt would suddenly induce even more mockery
You know we belong together...
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I always had faith but I haven't been shy about criticising when I felt the performances deserved it. Don't think I ever called for Ricki's head tho'! I've never really panned any of the players either, apart from LLG and Mulligan.
You're a feisty little sausage this evening, A47!
Sunburned from the fine Wellington weather my friend.
Ah yes. I remember it well..
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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i'm gonna put a positive spin on this - if you support your team through thick and thin, then when they start doing well you can celebrate fully and not feel like a tool
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Thats ultimately what I'm getting at.
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All I know is that I've seen a whole lot more fever tees around town lately.
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Still haven't got my Pie yet...
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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theres not much I hate more than bandwagoners, i'll criticise but i'll never stop supporting, to still go to every youngheart game I could get too after they got beaten 7 or 8 nil by Wellington says alot I think!
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Still haven't got my Pie yet...
Looks to me like you've had a dozen of them.......
Coxey2008-11-30 22:10:49
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dont confuse bandwagoners with a casual fan though. I dont blame people who only turn up to the stadium to watch games when the team is doing well. As, as a casual fan why would they front up cash to watch a side play crap and lose?
It is those who say "phoenix are rubbish" and often laugh when they lose,then when start winning start supporting them all of a sudden...theyre the bandwagoners
Allegedly
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There is a seat for you in storage class, if you would care to apologise to Ricki for trying to get him sacked and the players for telling them that they were wooden spooners and you had no faith in them.
Would be nice to see the humble pie scoffed in one sitting too and then be forgotten about.
Would be nice to see the humble pie scoffed in one sitting too and then be forgotten about.
Have you ever thought that it may have been the calls for Ricki's head that have resulted in this dramatic turn around in form?
Sometimes by putting a little pressure on people to perform can turn a negative situation into a positive one...
I love Ricki to bits but when we were struggling at the foot of the table and the team are playing sh*te you have to point the finger at someone. I think over the past 7 or so weeks he has done a phenomenal job and should be commended but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that we also played very poorly for the first 3rd of the Season.
C-Diddy2008-11-30 22:19:18"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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I don't agree that bandwagoning is a NZ phenomenon, A47. No one can stick the knife into their own teams like Aussies can (I've seen it at close quarters: not pretty), and frankly I think it's probably much the same all over the planet. It's human nature.
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I don't agree that bandwagoning is a NZ phenomenon, A47. No one can stick the knife into their own teams like Aussies can (I've seen it at close quarters: not pretty), and frankly I think it's probably much the same all over the planet. It's human nature.
Just ask Kiwi Pie!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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dont confuse bandwagoners with a casual fan though. I dont blame people who only turn up to the stadium to watch games when the team is doing well. As, as a casual fan why would they front up cash to watch a side play crap and lose?
It is those who say "phoenix are rubbish" and often laugh when they lose,then when start winning start supporting them all of a sudden...theyre the bandwagoners
You've basically defined bandwagoner. Come during the good times, bail during the tough times. Why does the casual fan come? Cause the team is winning = bandwagoner (although I accept its a bit looser than that)
Breakers have the best crowds at the moment. Why? cause they are winning. Cause everyone wants on the bandwagon. If/when they start losing, watch them disappear and not support and then you'll also get phrases like 'I've always been a breakers fan' or 'that was the best win ever' or Kirk Penney is the greatest' or..... get my picture?
Agent 472008-11-30 23:01:33
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I was a casual fan last year, I went when it suited me, not really caring what the score was going to be etc just going when I felt it was right!
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Like I said, I accept the definition is a bit looser than I stipulated but my point remains....
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Heck I'd say bandwagoners welcome aboard and buckle up
while Agent 47 runs you through the pre-Fever safety instructions
the more the merrier
while Agent 47 runs you through the pre-Fever safety instructions
the more the merrier
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So we aren't allowed to criticize when they play badly? After that Adelaide game where they showed no passion whatsoever everyone had a right to be angry.
The sack Ricki thread was over the top though.
The sack Ricki thread was over the top though.
The person I have the most sympathy for in this world as a fan is the Mad Butcher as that man has blind loyalty to the Warriors like no man has. When they were sh*t, he copped an earful. Every year when they lose 7 on the trot and the 'Warriors are crap' stuff starts, he never loses the faith. But every year, they come back and so do the band wagoners. We should take a little lesson from that.
Its fine to be critical on a performance but 'sack Ricki' and 'We are the knights in disguise' are just OTT and smack of bandwagoner tendancies from those that only want the good times. Being critical is good if you can then provide a solution. Saying 'We are sh*t' does nothing except expose bandwangoners and you can see them all trying to get back on board now.
New Zealand suffers from bandwagoner syndrome in general because when the All Blacks lose, stop the press, ground the planes, open a royal commission of enquiry. Yet we are still consistently the best team in the world. I'd hate to be lumped in the same boat as a thugby supporter.
Supporting a football team is an emotional thing. It's why we watch and why we support. You go up and down with the team and trying to make fan reaction to results logical is a bit pointless imo.
valeo2008-11-30 23:44:14
a.haak
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i'm gonna put a positive spin on this - if you support your team through thick and thin, then when they start doing well you can celebrate fully and not feel like a tool
I agree. Who cares about the bandwagoners. It's more about you guys who turn up every week even when the performances are dire
. Celebrat the success now - you deserve to. That's what it's all about.
. Celebrat the success now - you deserve to. That's what it's all about.I haven't made it down to a game yet this season (I don't wear the pants in this family
) but hope to still make it to a couple. Otherwise its support from afar I'm afraid.
) but hope to still make it to a couple. Otherwise its support from afar I'm afraid.Respect to Yellow Fever for the positive influence you bring to the NZ football scene. Aww... go on then
We Still Love You Colin We Do!
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dont confuse bandwagoners with a casual fan though. I dont blame people who only turn up to the stadium to watch games when the team is doing well. As, as a casual fan why would they front up cash to watch a side play crap and lose?
It is those who say "phoenix are rubbish" and often laugh when they lose,then when start winning start supporting them all of a sudden...theyre the bandwagoners
You've basically defined bandwagoner. Come during the good times, bail during the tough times. Why does the casual fan come? Cause the team is winning = bandwagoner (although I accept its a bit looser than that)
Breakers have the best crowds at the moment. Why? cause they are winning. Cause everyone wants on the bandwagon. If/when they start losing, watch them disappear and not support and then you'll also get phrases like 'I've always been a breakers fan' or 'that was the best win ever' or Kirk Penney is the greatest' or..... get my picture?
I wouldnt say i hate those guys though. People can still support the team and not turn up to games. Just because theyre not like us turning up every week doesnt make them not fans.
Im suggesting there is a difference between a casual fan and a bandwagoner. If we are winning it is expected more people will turn up. Why? Because people are more likely to part with their money to watch some quality football. If we're losing theyre less likely to turn up (they may still do sometimes)...it doesnt make them any less of a fan at all...and certainly doesnt make them a bandwagoner (they still support the team and consider themselves a fan)
Fans dont have to turn up to a game every week. I guess this point is particularly evident for out of towners. Sure some like HN with the knightz would have flown up no matter what the result. But i would never bothered spending so much money just to watch them lose...yet i was still a fan and supported them back here at home on tv...i didnt consider myself a bandwagoner at all...
Id call a bandwagoner more as someone who jokes about how sh*t a team is when they are losing,giving anyone who supports them sh*t "why would you go watch them losers?"..yet when theyre winning theyre the first to praise them and turn up to games.
There is a difference between the 2 there...no way you can convince me otherwise 
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All I know is it's the best feeling in the world to see them winning like this, after defending them to others during the down phases. As loyal fans we know the Phoenix will always find a way to rise from the ashes!! :)
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must admit was pretty upset with the form of the early season, not that I was calling fo ricki's head, just for the team to man up - which they've done. I must say that all is forgiven after the last 3 weeks performances - the faith has been restored,.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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I didnt call for anyones head.. i defended ricki. but i would like to name and shame two of our best sports reporters/presenters........ mark richardson and andrew mulligan. they are phoenix bandwagon whores.
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f**k I hate Richardson.
As is fairly well known, I guess.
As is fairly well known, I guess.
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