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Two weeks for Troy...

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
prime news had an article on it
 
Ricky said...
 
"yeah troy has said sorry today , maybe a day too late"
 
Surely a PRO would say sorry first thing monday morning right?

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The decision was right.  He was right to be red carded and he's right to cop an extra two weeks.

The part that was wrong was that Alex Brosque should have been red carded for initiating and provoking Hearfield.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The(O)Dor wrote:
The decision was right.  He was right to be red carded and he's right to cop an extra two weeks.

The part that was wrong was that Alex Brosque should have been red carded for initiating and provoking Hearfield.
 
 
You are kidding yeah?

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
No one... needs more Jamie Cross.


 
er no

Founder

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Scottishbhoy wrote:
prime news had an article on it
 
Ricky said...
 
"yeah troy has said sorry today , maybe a day too late"
 
Surely a PRO would say sorry first thing monday morning right?
 
if hearfield was a good pro...he'd go back and finish the job off..lol

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:
Hard News wrote:
No one... needs more Jamie Cross.


 
er no


Pends if its refing or attempting to teach futsal

well i guess it dosent so


NO ONE!
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Do we all remember the warning the Ross got when he "elbowed" someone before a corner last year?

What about Dodd getting completely hammered in the eye? So many judicial bullsh*t its not funny.

And time they fix their yellow card can't do anything about it crap. Joel should've gotten 2 years last year for hitting a linesmen in the nuts. And whoever pushed the ball into the goal (forgot who it was) should get 5 weeks. So many more I can't remember.Michael2009-01-14 21:42:30
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Michael wrote:
So many judicial bullsh*t.


So little english
HK_Keeper2009-01-14 21:47:34
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think Hard News already went mushroom cloud on this with the various double standards..

but it is unjust when Brosque can violently kick Hearfield's legs out from under him, after he'd been beaten (so a professional foul too), Hearfield pushes him away without force with his forhead because the twat had advanced on him running his mouth and one is a red card with two weeks and the other is a yellow.

One is a much more violent and unsporting action that the other. Even though retaliation has got to be stopped, it makes the whole thing a farce. And shows Sydney for the pack for the pack of whining losers they are...hopefully Brosque and McFlynn will soon resemble the modern day Maradona.




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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Ridiculous... the number of completely disgraceful acts this season that the same judiciary has ignored is huge. 

Where is our penalty for Brosque stepping in to Hearfield at the time of the elbow ?

Where is Brosque's 2nd yellow for initiating the confrontation with Hearfield ?

Where is Cairncross's yellow for that first second tackle ?

How about Muscats suspension for the stomp on the groin of Agostino ?

Tiatto's for the two finger salute in Melbourne or anyone one of a dozen disgraceful tackles?

The judiciary is a f**king joke.  Two weeks for the head tap is reasonable (ish) but to go back and add cite him for the other when they have ignored so much this season just makes them a laughing stock.


one yellow for the professional foul and another for the folllow up?

the penalty for Brosque's intial push on Hearfield in the box at our corner? Despite watching that I had been told it didn't exist.

and Allsop's barge on Kosmina.


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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
No one... needs more Jamie Cross.

Anyone except Williams or O'Leary will do me.  O'Leary is (in my view) the best ref in the league currently but better to keep him away from the NZ side... Williams is a disgrace.
 
O'Leary can be fast on the draw..
 

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I would have liked to see Matthew Breeze do our last two games. Unlike last season, I feel he's been pretty good this year.
 
HN, I am in total agrrement on your assessment of Ben Williams, you just put it more politely than I could. 
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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
As far as professional fouls go, everytime we have a 4 vs 3 or something at the halfway line, the defender does a blatant foul, this repeats 50 bloody times through the games and stops all our counter attacks.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The "headbutt" was a push. Brosque should have got carded for sparking the whole thing. To be consistent, Hearfield should have got carded for retaliating and he did. It was dumb, but he fell for it. Red for brosque, yellow for Troy.

The elbow was unwarranted, dirty and disappointing. He's better than that and he let the side down.
Doesn't matter if others have done worse. He's the one in the Phoenix.

My two cents
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Clearly Ben Williams is up on his current affairs and saw this story:

Kiwi died in Spain after being headbutted
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4818873a11.html
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Michael wrote:
As far as professional fouls go, everytime we have a 4 vs 3 or something at the halfway line, the defender does a blatant foul, this repeats 50 bloody times through the games and stops all our counter attacks.
 
....and Messrs McKain, Muscat, Brown and Durante (to name but 4) never indulge in that sort of thing do they? 
 
C'mon fellas, get the eyepatches off
Jag2009-01-15 08:41:23

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Bring back Jacko!

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I have to be honest and say that having the sentences served concurrently is an unexpected bonus. The red was for violent conduct, which is hard to argue against (no matter how poor an example it was of a Glasgow kiss). With violent conduct being an automatic two weeks, in effect the elbow is being unpunished. So why are we complaining? Shouldn't we be relieved?

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hearfield gives Brosque the elbow which if seen would have earned him a red card.

Brosque chops Hearfield down bit of pay back and lets Hearfield know and gets a deserved yellow card.

Hearfield reacts with stupid and pathetic headbutt immediately in front of ref and gets red card.

Brosque lays off simple ball for Sydney winner while Hearfield watches from the stand. Game set and match to Brosque and expensive lesson for Hearfield paid for by nix.



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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I agree SiNZ he is extremely lucky, I felt the elbow was far worse than the peck on the forehead. Troy can be a loose unit and Ricki will need to think long and hard about where Troy will fit in next season.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Is he that good that he can continously keep Daniel out of the squad?
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
+1
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Even putting this brain explosion aside I don't see enough in Troy to consider him a starter, maybe with this season under his belt he may prove me wrong next season we will see.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Scottishbhoy wrote:
The(O)Dor wrote:
The decision was right.  He was right to be red carded and he's right to cop an extra two weeks.

The part that was wrong was that Alex Brosque should have been red carded for initiating and provoking Hearfield.
 
 
You are kidding yeah?


No I'm not.  Brosque stepped into it and verbally provoked Hearfield after an overly clumsy challenge.  And then like a princess he turns around to the referee like "woe was me, I just got some of my own sir, give him a card" and Williams did.  Brosque was no angel in that farce.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The(O)Dor wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
The(O)Dor wrote:
The decision was right.  He was right to be red carded and he's right to cop an extra two weeks.

The part that was wrong was that Alex Brosque should have been red carded for initiating and provoking Hearfield.
 
 
You are kidding yeah?


No I'm not.  Brosque stepped into it and verbally provoked Hearfield after an overly clumsy challenge.  And then like a princess he turns around to the referee like "woe was me, I just got some of my own sir, give him a card" and Williams did.  Brosque was no angel in that farce.
 
Which one of the dismissable offences does that fall under? I've pasted them in from the LotG below. While I didn't like Brosque's manner, I can't see a justifiable red card.

A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the following seven offences:

� serious foul play

� violent conduct

� spitting at an opponent or any other person

� denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)

� denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player�s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick

� using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures

� receiving a second caution in the same match

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
� spitting at an opponent or any other person
 Shame it dosnt say spitting to incite fans or that dick Ogerspitoski should also be gone.On the replay he clearly turns around to the fever zone after copping some of our verbals and lets fly.Admittly no chance of hitting anyone but isnt there something about inciting the fans.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He's out for next week anyway which ironically is bad for us because we want Adelaide to win this time.

a.haak

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