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over 13 years ago

How many poor results have there been.  For me, there has only been two.

1) Away to victory - Think we got tactics/implementation wrong.  Tried to play how heart did against victory in R1, but didn't realy have the players to do it.

2) Loss at home to CCM - Tight match. Just didn't really created much attacking wise.

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over 13 years ago

Poor results are when we lose or draw.

Up your standards ffs.



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over 13 years ago

 Would be interesting to know what the starting XI would be right now if Pantelis was fully fit

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over 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

How many poor results have there been.  For me, there has only been two.

1) Away to victory - Think we got tactics/implementation wrong.  Tried to play how heart did against victory in R1, but didn't realy have the players to do it.

2) Loss at home to CCM - Tight match. Just didn't really created much attacking wise.

Talk about rose tinted glasses or those one eyed ones.LOL So your saying apart from those 2 every thing has been okay.Mmmm just shows how much all of us see very different things in games.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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over 13 years ago

james dean wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

james dean wrote:

I think we can carry on this way and we will probably finish 5th or 6th, which is fine but would be pretty underwhelming.  This season we were supposed to be aiming higher than that and I don't see this team being run like a side that thinks it can win the title.

Didn't you say we would finish last 2 weeks ago.

If we carry on with our 4-4-2 we'll miss the finals, I'm sure of that
I'll take some of that please,whatever your smoking JD get some new stuff because there is NO WAY we will miss the play offs.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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over 13 years ago

Ard Righ wrote:

 Would be interesting to know what the starting XI would be right now if Pantelis was fully fit


That's a pretty enormous 'if'.
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over 13 years ago

Fitzy wrote:

Ard Righ wrote:

 Would be interesting to know what the starting XI would be right now if Pantelis was fully fit


That's a pretty enormous 'if'.


Pantelis probably has more of a chance of starting the game than Cam Lindsay

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over 13 years ago

Anyway, Fenton got dropped so IBTL.


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over 13 years ago

dropped our marquee striker for a game too.

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over 13 years ago

Fenton next red if he keeps the jump tackle going.

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over 13 years ago

ballane wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

How many poor results have there been.  For me, there has only been two.

1) Away to victory - Think we got tactics/implementation wrong.  Tried to play how heart did against victory in R1, but didn't realy have the players to do it.

2) Loss at home to CCM - Tight match. Just didn't really created much attacking wise.

Talk about rose tinted glasses or those one eyed ones.LOL So your saying apart from those 2 every thing has been okay.Mmmm just shows how much all of us see very different things in games.


So which other games were poor results then?
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over 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

ballane wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

How many poor results have there been.  For me, there has only been two.

1) Away to victory - Think we got tactics/implementation wrong.  Tried to play how heart did against victory in R1, but didn't realy have the players to do it.

2) Loss at home to CCM - Tight match. Just didn't really created much attacking wise.

Talk about rose tinted glasses or those one eyed ones.LOL So your saying apart from those 2 every thing has been okay.Mmmm just shows how much all of us see very different things in games.


So which other games were poor results then?
I think the Adelaide game circumstances with Geronimo hid a poor performance.  And we got v lucky against Heart with the red card, should have been 2 or 3 down at half time.
The bad thing is that I don't think we've been part of an objectively "good"/entertaining game this year.  That's nine matches, enough to establish a pattern

Normo's coming home

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over 13 years ago

 You said results though.  HEart game was a good result given our squad that game.  Guess you could say the Adelaide game was a poor result, but I've discounted that given the ref performance.

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over 13 years ago

'results' and subjective 'entertaining football' are two different arguments in this context. 

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over 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

'results' and subjective 'entertaining football' are two different arguments in this context. 

Yes two different points, but for a long time the argument about attendances has been reduced to "if we win, they'll come and watch" and that's no longer the case.

Normo's coming home

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over 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

 You said results though.  HEart game was a good result given our squad that game.  Guess you could say the Adelaide game was a poor result, but I've discounted that given the ref performance.


Yes, it was a good result, but had very little to do with a good performance.  I think though we were pretty unlucky against Roar

Normo's coming home

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over 13 years ago

james dean wrote:

Feverish wrote:

'results' and subjective 'entertaining football' are two different arguments in this context. 

Yes two different points, but for a long time the argument about attendances has been reduced to "if we win, they'll come and watch" and that's no longer the case.
I think that is the case. We were 7th before Sunday. Need to be higher than that before the general public see us as 'winning'.

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over 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

james dean wrote:

Feverish wrote:

'results' and subjective 'entertaining football' are two different arguments in this context. 

Yes two different points, but for a long time the argument about attendances has been reduced to "if we win, they'll come and watch" and that's no longer the case.
I think that is the case. We were 7th before Sunday. Need to be higher than that before the general public see us as 'winning'.

Crowds are trending down not up green-man

Normo's coming home

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over 13 years ago

I'm not sure that the co-relation between results, performance and bigger crowds is that simple, there are a lot more factors in play.

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over 13 years ago

james dean wrote:

Feverish wrote:

james dean wrote:

Feverish wrote:

'results' and subjective 'entertaining football' are two different arguments in this context. 

Yes two different points, but for a long time the argument about attendances has been reduced to "if we win, they'll come and watch" and that's no longer the case.
I think that is the case. We were 7th before Sunday. Need to be higher than that before the general public see us as 'winning'.

Crowds are trending down not up green-man

Aye what I'm saying is that we were winning games enough to be at the too or near top of the table then it would put bums on seats

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History

Two have been dropped this season, and we haven't played 4-4-2 for weeks. IBTL.


It's a very tight league. If siggy hadn't been sent off and we'd nabbed a win at adelaide, and if CCM had been beaten like they should've been, we'd be top. 


I normally laugh at "if" scenarios like that but it does serve to show how close we are to being title contenders. Only takes one good run to get to the top in this league. We've only had a 'mini-run' and it's taken us half way up the table. 


Persisting with calls for change when we've taken 7 points from the last 9, with 2 of those games away, is a little bit silly.



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