Wellington Phoenix Men

v Adelaide Sat 5th Feb 9pm SS1

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I think it is possible to get something out of this, did you see them against CCM, they looked terrible! Flores was completely useless for them, his every touch was toxic in the 1st half. Hopefully thats the start of a form slump and they'll be shagged after Cold Roast.
We can do it!

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Junior82 wrote:
Stevo wrote:
Vuko - as you were.
Durrante - lead by example.

North - Where's ur Asian CUp?!?

Hearfield - Hope u worked hard on ur crosses this wk son.  No more passing to horsefield.

Lochhead - As above.

Lia - No more LOLia plz.

Brown - SHimmy Timmy plz.

Marco - U r nippier than a nippy nippled nipster from Nippon.  With skillz.  I expect.

Macca - time to put away those sitters imho.

Greenacre - time for a hattrick.

Musa - you look like a professional footballer: exploit this.

Daniel - Impact sub plz.

Toto - photocopy this out and give it to the team at the airport 

 
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from the reserves thread - Siggy and Manny are travelling with the squad over to Aus rather than turn out for the youth/reserves tonight

good call by Ricki i reckon

missing a saturday and wednesday game won't cost either of them too much match fitness

and hanging out with the youth team and kicking round welly doing bugger all or drinking might be ideal

and staying with the squad keeps them focussed on the league and they can benefit from watching the matches and thinking about their own performance with those lads when the come back

youth team results don't matter in relative terms
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tigers wrote:
from the reserves thread - Siggy and Manny are travelling with the squad over to Aus rather than turn out for the youth/reserves tonight

good call by Ricki i reckon

missing a saturday and wednesday game won't cost either of them too much match fitness

and hanging out with the youth team and kicking round welly doing bugger all or drinking might be ideal

and staying with the squad keeps them focussed on the league and they can benefit from watching the matches and thinking about their own performance with those lads when the come back

youth team results don't matter in relative terms


or they arent playing reserves because they just wouldnt

id love to see daniel, toto & pavlovic miss the plane


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tigers wrote:
from the reserves thread - Siggy and Manny are travelling with the squad over to Aus rather than turn out for the youth/reserves tonight

good call by Ricki i reckon

missing a saturday and wednesday game won't cost either of them too much match fitness

and hanging out with the youth team and kicking round welly doing bugger all or drinking might be ideal

and staying with the squad keeps them focussed on the league and they can benefit from watching the matches and thinking about their own performance with those lads when the come back

youth team results don't matter in relative terms


I would have thought it was a waste of money.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Possibly tickets pre- booked, not changeable??


  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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So team line-up for Saturday....

               Vuko
Hearfield   North   Dura    Lochy
                 Lia     
      Daniel    Brown      Ward
               Greenie
               BigMac

Bench: Pav, Toto, Musa, Crowther
              
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In other news, we are proper f*cked if Dura gets a yellow.
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http://www.a-league.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=38621
 
Phoenix rush North back
Wednesday, 2 February 2011
by Emma Stoney, Sportal

Jade North

Jade North is relaxed about being thrown straight back into Hyundai A-League action for Wellington Phoenix this weekend.

North has been away with the Socceroos in Qatar since the beginning of the year and trained with his Phoenix team-mates for the first time in weeks on Wednesday.

But the 29-year-old defender will be rushed into the starting line-up for Saturday's crucial match against Adelaide United after Ben Sigmund received his eighth yellow card of the season in the 1-0 win over Newcastle Jets, which earned him a two-game ban.

"I only played two games while I was away and I've been training pretty hard every day so the body feels okay and I've had a run out with the team today," said North.

The Australian has kept in touch with Wellington's progress in the last month or so as they have battled their way into the top six thanks to some good home form which has produced wins against Melbourne Victory, Perth Glory and Newcastle.

"The boys have been doing well since I've been away," he said. "There were a few text messages back and forth and I've watched a few games on the internet."

The away hoodoo however, has continued to haunt the Phoenix and they will need to remedy that immediately given Saturday's match is swiftly followed by a midweek fixture in Sydney before they return home for what should be a straightforward game against North Queensland Fury in Wellington.

But talk of settling for a point against Adelaide and Sydney was quickly quashed by North.

"I'm not looking at a point I'm looking to win two games," he declared. "You've got to be positive this time of year. It's do or die for us now. I'm expecting to go and get the points."

"Knowing the Phoenix, they showed this time last year this is the time they peak."

While North's return solves the problem of Sigmund's absence, coach Ricki Herbert will also be without impressive midfielder Manny Muscat for the next two matches courtesy of his eight yellow cards.

But rather than press someone into an unfamiliar defensive midfield role, Herbert is likely to play four across the middle and go with Chris Greenacre and Dylan Macallister up front with young defender James Musa coming onto the bench.

"I think Ben has been playing extremely well and Manny has been great too but we'll cope without them," a bullish Herbert said.

The coach is also very much aware that his skipper Andrew Durante is only one yellow card away from a two-match suspension as well and hinted he could limit the centre-back's game-time to protect him.

"I'll start him against Adelaide but I wouldn't say there's any guarantee that I'll play him fully in both matches," Herbert said.

"We'll just have to wait and see. There are games tonight (Wednesday) and games at the weekend. Depending on some of those results we may be able to leave him out."

 
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What is the chances of a win? 50/50 ?

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chefmivec wrote:
What is the chances of a win? 50/50 ?
 
 
To be honest, with our away form, I'd say more like 30/70. If we're lucky.
Jag2011-02-03 10:35:31

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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ScoobyD wrote:
So team line-up for Saturday....

               Vuko
Hearfield   North   Dura    Lochy
                 Lia     
      Daniel    Brown      Ward
               Greenie
               BigMac

Bench: Pav, Toto, Musa, Crowther
              
 
no rojas?
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Jag wrote:
chefmivec wrote:
What is the chances of a win? 50/50 ?





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To be honest, with our away form, I'd say more like 30/70. If we're lucky.


If we play like we did in the 1st half against Brisbane, i think it could well be a 50/50. We've just got to shut down Flores.

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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looks like musa should get a run then


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paulm wrote:
ScoobyD wrote:
So team line-up for Saturday....

               Vuko
Hearfield   North   Dura    Lochy
                 Lia     
      Daniel    Brown      Ward
               Greenie
               BigMac

Bench: Pav, Toto, Musa, Crowther
              
 
no rojas?

We surely need Rojas to play against Adelaide. I'd drop Daniel to the bench and put Rojas in there.

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Haha oops, thoughts I was missing someone.

REVISED:

   Vuko
Hearfield   North   Dura    Lochy
                 Lia      
      Rojas    Brown      Ward
               Greenie
               BigMac

Bench: Daniel, Toto, Musa, Crowther

Needs a huge game from Lia.
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ScoobyD wrote:

Needs a huge game from Lia.
 
yep, and brown
i would expect brown to play deeper too with muscat out. i think i'd like something like this;
 
                    Vukovic
Hearfield-North-Durante-Lochead
                  Lia-Brown
           Rojas-Ward-Daniel
                   McAllister
 
EPL style 4-2-3-1...
 
if ricki goes with 4-4-2 then daniel out, ward to the left and greenacre in
 
 
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paulm wrote:
ScoobyD wrote:
Needs a huge game from Lia.

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yep, and brown

i would expect brown to play deeper too with muscat out. i think i'd like something like this;

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                    Vukovic

Hearfield-North-Durante-Lochead

                  Lia-Brown

           Rojas-Ward-Daniel

                   McAllister

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EPL style 4-2-3-1...

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if ricki goes with 4-4-2 then daniel out, ward to the left and greenacre in

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I like this. Bit concerned about Daniel starting but what else can we do.
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Herbertimo wrote:
paulm wrote:
ScoobyD wrote:
Needs a huge game from Lia.

 

yep, and brown

i would expect brown to play deeper too with muscat out. i think i'd like something like this;

 

                    Vukovic

Hearfield-North-Durante-Lochead

                  Lia-Brown

           Rojas-Ward-Daniel

                   McAllister

 

EPL style 4-2-3-1...

 

if ricki goes with 4-4-2 then daniel out, ward to the left and greenacre in

 

 


I like this. Bit concerned about Daniel starting but what else can we do.
 
Replace Daniel with Greenacre? Greenacre deserves a start, and I'd rather see him there than Daniel.
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Meeki wrote:
Herbertimo wrote:
paulm wrote:
ScoobyD wrote:
Needs a huge game from Lia.

 

yep, and brown

i would expect brown to play deeper too with muscat out. i think i'd like something like this;

 

                    Vukovic

Hearfield-North-Durante-Lochead

                  Lia-Brown

           Rojas-Ward-Daniel

                   McAllister

 

EPL style 4-2-3-1...

 

if ricki goes with 4-4-2 then daniel out, ward to the left and greenacre in

 

 


I like this. Bit concerned about Daniel starting but what else can we do.
 
Replace Daniel with Greenacre? Greenacre deserves a start, and I'd rather see him there than Daniel.
 
greenacre is not a wide player, hence my comment in bold
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I'd put season 1 Daniel in the starting lineup... but not this seasons.
Greenacre ftw.
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It would be great to have Bertos now...be a great impact player, and would really put the attacking burn on a team...really missing his class and experience...


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Paul Reid's red card from last night has been expunged, so he's now available.  Has been coming off the bench recently.
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I've got a funny feeling about this one.
 
THE prediction will be here soon!

Nostalgia isnt what it used to be...........

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Wellington to draw 2-2

goals to van dyk,  flores
Hearfield and D-mac
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Perennial strugglers Liverpoolfan1 wrote:
Paul Reid's red card from last night has been expunged, so he's now available.� Has been coming off the bench recently.


I thought the only way a card could be expunged was if there was a case of mistaken identity


however, if this is an a-League rule can it be linked to an automatic decision that the ref will be expunged?
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 Good ol' 442 tbh

               Vukovic
Hearfield-North-Durante-Lochead
        Rojas-Lia-Brown-Ward
           McAllister-Greenie
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which ends up more of a 4411 really. I guess thats the side we are looking at playing.

I wonder if we are still deadlocked with an hour gone whether Ricki will go out and try win it or just try defend the draw. Im afraid it will be the latter.


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Perennial strugglers Liverpoolfan1 wrote:
Paul Reid's red card from last night has been expunged, so he's now available.� Has been coming off the bench recently.


sure has

Reid's red card withdrawn
Thursday, 3 February 2011

Paul Reid is free to tackle the Wellington Phoenix on Saturday night.
� AUFC
Adelaide United FC midfielder Paul Reid is free to line up against the Wellington Phoenix at Hindmarsh Stadium on Saturday night after his red card was rescinded by Football Federation Australia�s (FFA) Match Review Panel (MVP) this afternoon.

The MVP�s decision to expunge Reid�s red card and consequent one match suspension came after the midfielder and the club lodged an Obvious Error (Red Card) Application with the FFA earlier today.

Reid received a straight red card from referee Chris Beath in the 80th minute of the Reds� match with Gold Coast United at Skilled Park last night following a collision with Gold Coast defender John Curtis.

The outcome of Reid�s Obvious Error Application is the second time the Reds have had a red card rescinded this season, the result welcome news as Adelaide United prepares to back up after last night�s draining encounter on the Gold Coast with a massive home game against the Phoenix on Saturday night.
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Adelaide United vs. Wellington Phoenix
Saturday, 5 Feb 2011
Hindmarsh Stadium, Adelaide
Local kick-off: 6:30pm (7.00pm AEDT)
Referee: Matthew Breeze
Assistant referees: Paul Cetrangolo Daniel Goodwin
Fourth official: Regis Queffelec

Live and exclusive broadcast on FOX Sports 2, FS2 HD and Sky Sports 1 (NZ). Hyundai A-League club partner is ABC Digital (Adelaide) and The Radio Network (Wellington) 1035AM. To purchase tickets visit www.ticketek.com.au

Adelaide United: 1.Eugene GALEKOVIC (gk), 2.Robert CORNTHWAITE, 3.Nigel BOOGAARD, 6.CASSIO, 7.Lucas PANTELIS, 8.Adam HUGHES, 9.Sergio VAN DIJK, 10.Marcos FLORES, 11.Andy SLORY, 12. Paul REID, 13.Travis DODD (c), 14.Cameron WATSON, 16.Dario BODRUSIC, 17.Iain RAMSAY, 19.Mathew LECKIE, 20.Mark BIRIGHITTI (gk), 21.Francisco USUCAR, 22.Osama MALIK
*three to be omitted*

In: Lucas PANTELIS (promoted), Dario BODRUSIC (promoted), Osama MALIK (promoted)
Out: Nil
Unavailable: Daniel MULLEN (knee � season), Joe Kosta (knee � season), Joe KEENAN (leg � season), Fabian BARBIERO (ankle � season)


Wellington Phoenix: 3. Tony LOCHHEAD� 4. Nicky WARD, 6. Tim BROWN, 9, Chris GREENACRE, 10, Oscar Roberto CORNEJO, 11. DANIEL, 12. James MUSA, 13. Troy HEARFIELD, 14. Mirjan PAVLOVIC, 15. Jade NORTH, 17. Vince LIA, 19, Danny VUKOVIC, 20, Reece CROWTHER, 21. Marco ROJAS, 22. Andrew DURANTE, 23. Dylan MACALLISTER
*one to be omitted*

In: Mirjan PAVLOVIC (promoted); Jade NORTH (returns from international duty)
Out: Leo Bertos (injury)
Unavailable: Paul IFILL (leg � four weeks), Mark PASTON (gk, knee � season), Ben SIGMUND (Suspended � 2 weeks), Manny MUSCAT (suspended � 2 weeks)

Head-to-Head: All matches (played 11): Adelaide United wins 5, Wellington Phoenix wins 2 (4 draws)

� This will be Wellington�s 100th Hyundai A-League match.


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im getting pumped, reckon we can nab something
CMON YOU NIX
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Well if there's only one to be omitted from the above, i can see Toto being left out, i think Ricky will want at least one defensive cover if w'ere going to try to hold out Flores & Cogoldienz2011-02-04 10:27:29

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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Perennial strugglers Liverpoolfan1 wrote:
Dreadfully under-resourced bench.  I'd take Musa over Pavlovic or Toto any day.
...agree,  especially Toto who seems way out of his depth.....bench looking very thin for the next 2 games
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Perennial strugglers Liverpoolfan1 wrote:
Paul Reid's red card from last night has been expunged, so he's now available.  Has been coming off the bench recently.
.....so what did the Ref see....??????????.....nothing I guess
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Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Liverpoolfan1 wrote:
Dreadfully under-resourced bench.  I'd take Musa over Pavlovic or Toto any day.
...agree,  especially Toto who seems way out of his depth.....bench looking very thin for the next 2 games
I think Toto gets a bad rap personally.

Founder

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You just love that you've lumped Toto.  Watch him sober.  It's not good.
 
I was assured by a ref that Reid was a definite red and couldn't believe I argued.  Numpty.
 
Hard News2011-02-04 12:26:20

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10703858
 
Time to make it click on the road for Phoenix
By
Harry Ngata
 
Ronald McDonald used the term 'make it click' referring to a nation wide campaign encouraging kids and parents to buckle up in the car. Similar could be said for the Wellington Phoenix - well sort of.

If there was ever a time for a team to make it click then the next week for the Phoenix would be perfect timing. They will line up against third placed Adelaide on Saturday then travel to Sydney to play Sydney FC the following Wednesday. They return home to finish off the regular season against cellar dwellers the North Queensland Fury.

Critics will write that if the Phoenix are to be title contenders they will need to win away from Westpac Stadium. Fact. The team from Wellington has the worst away record in the league. They have accumulated five points from a possible thirty six so far this season. Not championship winning material. However in this A-League format that counts for zilch as finals football can throw the form book out the window.

On the other hand their form at home is going from strength to strength.

It's a pity they will only play one more regular season game at home on Feb 13th. They are a team in red hot form at the moment and looking at how the teams sit going into the last few games if all goes to plan they will probably finish in sixth position. Again they will be relying on results falling their way and Melbourne did them a huge favour in beating the Jets overnight.

This part of the equation has had a habit of favouring the Nix all season.

Ricki Herbert won't have it all going his way however as he will be without two crucial figures in Ben Sigmund and Manny Muscat who will miss the next two games through suspension. Both players have been stand outs for me recently. They are the glue that holds their central structure together.

Jade North will be a worthy replacement for Sigmund returning to the line up after a heart breaking Asian Cup campaign with the Socceroos. I have a feeling Chris Greenacre will get Muscat's spot although we may see the team revert to a 4-4-2 formation with Greenacre partnering the in form Dylan Macallister up front. Ward and Rojas will occupy their wide roles with Vince Lia and Tim Brown marshalling the midfield.

Hoping to sneak under the yellow card radar will be skipper Andrew Durante who is one yellow away from a two match suspension.

Football can be a killer sometimes. The Phoenix were minutes away form a fantastic result at the Brisbane Roar last week.

A point there would have eased the pressure somewhat on the Adelaide and Sydney games. Any sort of points in either of these two games would be fantastic and boost confidence knowing that a sixth place finish would mean another trip to Adelaide or possibly the Gold Coast.

Character and squad depth will be tested yet again and Ricki Herbert will need to be shrewd in how he uses his bench. James Musa will more than likely come into the squad as defensive cover while Mirjan Pavlovic may also get a call up and may play a role depending on results. They can take heart that whilst the away results have not been ideal their overall performances have been solid.

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Hard News wrote:
You just love that you've lumped Toto.  Watch him sober.  It's not good.
 
I was assured by a ref that Reid was a definite red and couldn't believe I argued.  Numpty.
 
 
I didn't see the Reid send-off. What was he supposed to have done?

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Feverish wrote:
Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Liverpoolfan1 wrote:
Dreadfully under-resourced bench.� I'd take Musa over Pavlovic or Toto any day.
...agree,� especially Toto who seems way out of his depth.....bench looking very thin for the next 2 games

I think Toto gets a bad rap personally.


Like this?

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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Jag wrote:
I didn't see the Reid send-off. What was he supposed to have done?
 
He and Curtis both went in with feet at waist high for a ball, they missed the ball and each other but as they came down Reid landed on Curtis and he ended upw tih concussion.

The 4th official suggested he'd made a stomping action which I never spiotted in the tackle and he was sent.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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