Not sure if we played very good or you guys played very bad maybe a bit of both...
Tomas Rogic ... what a player I tho he was the difference he totally controlled the centre of the park and from there we moved... will be interesting to see if Musty can get back his number 10 shirt and we now have two kids looking to be Australia's next number 10.
Was talking last and we wonder aloud if we played Musty as the number 10 and Tomas a striker ... in a 4 4 1 1 combination with Sutton playing back to goal and passing back to Tomas and other mids coming tho..
As a side note still wonder how weeMac is not a fist 11 player in the AW's ....
Report written from a NZ guy ... from the ""Back of the Net""
http://back-of-the-net.com/2011-2012/R20/R20-CCvsWP.htm
http://back-of-the-net.com/2011-2012/R20/R20-CCvsWP.htm
Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
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Report written from a NZ guy ... from the ""Back of the Net""
http://back-of-the-net.com/2011-2012/R20/R20-CCvsWP.htm
http://back-of-the-net.com/2011-2012/R20/R20-CCvsWP.htm
'NZ guy" is the erstwhile Jeremy Ruane.
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Poor ball control, or a lack of effort cost us a lot in that game.
Our marking at set pieces is still woeful, have been a few games where unmarked players have scored good headers.
As for delivery of the ball from corners or free kicks, I know Daniel is one of our best, what about Alex Smith??
From memory, Smith's free kicks have been much better quality than Bertos, surely they would use him more often?
Our marking at set pieces is still woeful, have been a few games where unmarked players have scored good headers.
As for delivery of the ball from corners or free kicks, I know Daniel is one of our best, what about Alex Smith??
From memory, Smith's free kicks have been much better quality than Bertos, surely they would use him more often?
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Is that the worst game Bertos has played for us? Seems to have well and truly reverted to last years model seemingly wandering around, barely giving a f**k?
We settled a little in the first half once Smith moved from playing on the right side of midfield to playing on the left when he largely went Man on Man with wee Mac.
A poor game, and much like last week shows difference between the top two and the rest.
Bring on the Bling!
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Abeanie walks into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder. Bar man says, "Where did you find that?" Parrot answers "Africa".
Really?
You are a f**king joke.
Keep your racist sh*t off the forums please.
take a f**king chill pill, c**t.
I would not mind if I never read anything like that again on the yellow fever forums.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.
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God does not exist. Not use saying "please God"...
Within 3 minutes of you saying that - they scored...
Well, if it makes you feel better - I'm a week-long self-imposed YF ban for my "crime". Gonna play my just arrived and addictive and magnificent and sensational Civilization V instead. No prizes as to what Civ I'm gonna play...
Kia ora, and good night.
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Stevo I would say it should have been noted that you have apologised for your comment and I suggest that the above is more likely directed at those following your remark, with all the ** ** in them..... surely?
Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!
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Stevo has had the hard word. He has not been ban-sticked due to his sincere apology.
Case closed.
Case closed.
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Three things i just can't understand:1 Why Nix always need to concede first to start playing football?2 Why Paston didn't even try to make a stop for that 1st goal (i think if he tries he might reach it or close to...)?3 Why sub Greenie off at 60min mark when we were 0-1 down and start showing promising signs?
I would like the same answers. Pasty did the same thing for the first goal v brisbane last week. It's time to shuffle things up. No goals in the last 2 games, now we're starting another streak....losing.
Paston had no chance with the first goal-he knew the minute the striker struck it, it was in.
I just find it interesting so many people are willing to absolve Paston of any guilt for the first goal - would they have been saying the same thing if that had been Warner?
There were several curious things about the goal - yes, the shot was very well placed, but wasn't fiercely struck, and not as far away from Paston as some here are implying, so at least warranted an attempt to make a save (whether he'd have made it or not, of course, we will never know). But the other curious thing was Paston's footwork - he tried to get into position for a dive, and then seems to have stumbled somehow, I wonder if that terrible pitch had something to do with it? And perhaps the most curious of all, Rogic himself seemed a bit surprised that his shot in went as easily as it did during his post-match interview. It seems that he at least didn't think "no-one's stopping that...".
Anyway, as far as the game - we were simply outclassed, didn't know (and at times were simply not good enough) how to deal with CCM when they pressed us high up the field and kept turning the ball over, and couldn't hope to hold them out forever playing like that.
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Paston didnt have a chance, so stop going on about him not making an effort. Not only did it curl in to the corner but the ball also dipped dramatically. After it passes Paston it then dips and curls perfectly. And the other amazing thing about the shot was that Rogic hardly had much back lift before he kicked it which gives Paston even less time to react. If you think Paston could have made a reasonable attempt at that then why dont you also suggest that he should also try and get a premier league contract.
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I suggest you see the replay again. The ball is at a very savable height when it goes past Paston. Who, however, is in no position to make it, because he's already down on his knees, presumably having tripped himself the way top goal-keepers do.
However did he not make it into the Premiership, I'll never know.
However did he not make it into the Premiership, I'll never know.
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I agree about Paston standing and watching shots rather than making an effort. He could not have saved that one - but it demonstrates a bad habit in my book. If you cant make an attempt at a shot from outside the box (like he has done more than once) then something is wrong.Feverish2012-02-20 16:29:08
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I agree about Paston standing and watching shots rather than making an effort. He could not have saved that one - but it demonstrates a bad habit in my book. If you cant make an attempt at a shot from outside the box (like he has done more than once) then something is wrong.
agreed, I hate seeing a keeper stand a watch a shot go in, if he'd missed the save I'd be a lot happier.Queenslander 3x a year.
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I doubt there is a keeper on this planet that would have saved that.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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I doubt there is a keeper on this planet that would have saved that.
I agree, I think the only criticism that you could make of Paston on that goal was his positioning in that he was slightly off his line, but that would be very harsh.
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I say this purely on that goal and nothing against Paston at all, I mean he's done pretty well overall in that game...
I might be wrong, but I clearly remember that the replay once showed from an angle directly towards Paston's goal, and it showed that the goal went over Paston's NOT TOO FAR AWAY...i guess if he make a full stretch he might be close to it...
Just watched highlights and here are the 2 snapshots showing the exact moment when the goal went past Paston...his positioning was actually very good...but he went down instead of jump up...might be something to do with the pitch but just weird to see...
I might be wrong, but I clearly remember that the replay once showed from an angle directly towards Paston's goal, and it showed that the goal went over Paston's NOT TOO FAR AWAY...i guess if he make a full stretch he might be close to it...
Just watched highlights and here are the 2 snapshots showing the exact moment when the goal went past Paston...his positioning was actually very good...but he went down instead of jump up...might be something to do with the pitch but just weird to see...
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I'm not absolving him. Think he should have made an attempt to save it. Would have said the same of Warner if it he'd done the samel. Rojic was laughing when he'd seen it go in. says it all really. Pasty was good up until that point.
I think if we all went back, we'd find that Warner made an attempt at virtually every shot, unstoppable or not.
Royal2012-02-20 22:36:32
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So Warner is better than Paston, because he makes an attempt at every shot?? Is that what is being said ?
Paston was great in that first half, I doubt that Warner would have saved all those shots because in my view he is generally slower to react than Paston.
Paston was great in that first half, I doubt that Warner would have saved all those shots because in my view he is generally slower to react than Paston.
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I had to listen to this game over the wireless in the far North, which it looks like may of been the best thing.
The lack of the mentioning of Ifill during the commentary was a bit of a worry, seemed like he was quiet again just like against the Roar, not good.
The lack of the mentioning of Ifill during the commentary was a bit of a worry, seemed like he was quiet again just like against the Roar, not good.
You'll never beat The Salmon!
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Did anyone else hear in the commentary when Slater??? said that the Nix had only scored 4 times from 145 corners???? If that is true then its not that flash. Mind you there were at least three set pieces in a row were the ball played in never got above the first defender.....which from memory is a fairly regular occurance
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I say this purely on that goal and nothing against Paston at all, I mean he's done pretty well overall in that game...
I might be wrong, but I clearly remember that the replay once showed
from an angle directly towards Paston's goal, and it showed that the
goal went over Paston's NOT TOO FAR AWAY...i guess if he make a full stretch he might be close to it...Just watched highlights and here are the 2 snapshots showing the exact moment when the goal went past Paston...his positioning was actually very good...but he went down instead of jump up...might be something to do with the pitch but just weird to see...
I might be wrong, but I clearly remember that the replay once showed
from an angle directly towards Paston's goal, and it showed that the
goal went over Paston's NOT TOO FAR AWAY...i guess if he make a full stretch he might be close to it...Just watched highlights and here are the 2 snapshots showing the exact moment when the goal went past Paston...his positioning was actually very good...but he went down instead of jump up...might be something to do with the pitch but just weird to see...
Check his bank accounts.. spot betting scandal?
But yes, it was weird he didn't try to commit, it's almost like he thought "f**k it, i can't be bothered". His reaction after the goal was weird too.
Yellow Whever Whanganui
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Did anyone else hear in the commentary when Slater??? said that the Nix had only scored 4 times from 145 corners???? If that is true then its not that flash. Mind you there were at least three set pieces in a row were the ball played in never got above the first defender.....which from memory is a fairly regular occurance[/QUOTE]
Not a big deal, seems to be roughly the statistical norm:
[quote]On average, it took teams 54 corners to score a goal in the UEFA Champions League. Just 23 of 320 goals came from the set-piece. Andy Roxburgh, UEFA technical director, says: �The success rate from corners has declined by 46% in just three seasons in this competition.�
Edit: Will add, I did like the variation used in the Roar game, chip to Greenacre and chest down to Ifill (though shot ended up going out for a throw).Bullion2012-02-21 11:48:35
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I say this purely on that goal and nothing against Paston at all, I mean he's done pretty well overall in that game...
I might be wrong, but I clearly remember that the replay once showed
from an angle directly towards Paston's goal, and it showed that the
goal went over Paston's NOT TOO FAR AWAY...i guess if he make a full stretch he might be close to it...Just watched highlights and here are the 2 snapshots showing the exact moment when the goal went past Paston...his positioning was actually very good...but he went down instead of jump up...might be something to do with the pitch but just weird to see...
I might be wrong, but I clearly remember that the replay once showed
from an angle directly towards Paston's goal, and it showed that the
goal went over Paston's NOT TOO FAR AWAY...i guess if he make a full stretch he might be close to it...Just watched highlights and here are the 2 snapshots showing the exact moment when the goal went past Paston...his positioning was actually very good...but he went down instead of jump up...might be something to do with the pitch but just weird to see...
Thank you for illustrating my point - the ball is not very far away from Paston at all. If he stands up, with a dive he should be able to get it without much problem, especially considering the shot wasn't hit very hard.
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The Moral of the story GET OVER IT already
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Warner would have stopped that!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Well, he does have great positioning.
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What about his distribution?
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.
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What about his distribution?
Defensive organisation not that great
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Man on the inside reflects on the Phoenix loss to CCM
http://wellingtonphoenixfc.blogspot.co.nz/2012/02/phoenix-reflect-on-central-coast-loss.html
http://wellingtonphoenixfc.blogspot.co.nz/2012/02/phoenix-reflect-on-central-coast-loss.html
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Did anyone else hear in the commentary when Slater??? said that the Nix had only scored 4 times from 145 corners???? If that is true then its not that flash. Mind you there were at least three set pieces in a row were the ball played in never got above the first defender.....which from memory is a fairly regular occurance[/QUOTE]
Not a big deal, seems to be roughly the statistical norm:
[quote]On average, it took teams 54 corners to score a goal in the UEFA Champions League. Just 23 of 320 goals came from the set-piece. Andy Roxburgh, UEFA technical director, says: �The success rate from corners has declined by 46% in just three seasons in this competition.�
Edit: Will add, I did like the variation used in the Roar game, chip to Greenacre and chest down to Ifill (though shot ended up going out for a throw).
What are the other A-league teams corner stats like?
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