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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
patrick478 wrote:
sthn.jeff wrote:

I can barely remember a game that Iffy has finished without a limp or hobble of some kind


I can remember the playoff against the Jets two years ago, when he scored and set off on a storming run the length of the field after playing 105 minutes of football beforehand. I want this Paul Ifill back.
 
Yeah that crocked him and he has not been the same since!
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Nice idea, but I think Warner would be a better option in goal and Daniel is lazy. Yep, he had a good game, but the other games he has been a passenger, which is also what Tim Brown has been, only stopping to pick up yellow cards to show that he is there.
We have played well when we have a strong midfield, so Smith is definetly the best option, along side Nick Ward.
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Daniel has been excellent for the last 4 or 5 matches, significantly better than either Bertos or Ward.
 
Mind you Ward being out injured means that won't happen anyway.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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I must have watch a different game to you, Daniel has moments where he does good stuff, the rest is mediocre at best.
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zapdog wrote:
I must have watch a different game to you, Daniel has moments where he does good stuff, the rest is mediocre at best.
 
Which would put him significantly ahead of Brown and Bertos
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Different game to me and most of the others on here considering he has won 3 of the last 4 MOTM polls on here.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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I agree with that, Bertos hasn't shown the ability he had last season. Tim Brown hasn't impressed at all. Or is it that Sanchez, Smith and Ward are showing what the standard should be?
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zapdog wrote:
I agree with that, Bertos hasn't shown the ability he had 3 seasons ago. Tim Brown hasn't impressed at all. Or is it that Sanchez, Smith and Ward are showing what the standard should be?
 
Fixed.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ward popped up with and assist and a goal in Dunedin, but that's all. At the moment for me, Daniel>Sanchez>Smith>>>Ward>>Bertos>Brown

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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Zapdog, you're either:

( a ) living on another planet
( b ) remarkably imperceptive
( c ) clinically retarded
( d ) severely under the influence of one or more consciousness altering/impairing substance(s)
( e ) having a laugh.
 
Alternatively it is just possible that you are plain wrong.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You forgot:
 
f) All of the above

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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el grapadura wrote:
sthn.jeff wrote:

zinidane wrote:


Pav limped off in the game against TW after about 15 mins....was treated on the�sideline for quite a while. I really hope that Pav turns out a winner because we have invested a lot of time in him�but aqainst�TW he had that same disinterested look after being forced off the ball a couple of times...then he got clattered and walked off.
�Ifill was limping also before he went off....I think he just does it to put the shiites up everyone.

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I can barely remember a game that Iffy has finished without a limp or hobble of some kind
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I can hardly remember a game he started without a limp or a hobble...just goes to show what a quality player he is in this league, because I don't think he's been anywhere near his full fitness since his first season here.


I reckon it is in part his style...Always be bloody wary of the wounded lion! He hobbles and limps and then gets the ball turns a player inside out and puts one in the top left corner...


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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Clearly, all founder members of the Daniel is wonderful Fan club
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I remember Ward had A good game where he actually managed to finish one...and also had an assist...against Sydney I think.

Daniel has been good this season, and has been unbelievably patient. Seemed to be our best attacking outlet against Perth.martinb2012-01-12 15:00:06


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zapdog wrote:
Clearly, all founder members of the Daniel is wonderful Fan club


Actually no. That's loyalgunmen and co. The rest of us are all observant football fans.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You say observant, yet you fail to see Daniel's laziness.Blinkered football voyeurs 
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zapdog wrote:
You say observant, yet you fail to see Daniel's laziness.Blinkered football voyeurs 
 
Would a voyeur wear blinkers? Just asking?

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I am guilty of being a football voyeur.
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Jag wrote:
zapdog wrote:
You say observant, yet you fail to see Daniel's laziness.Blinkered football voyeurs 
 
Would a voyeur wear blinkers? Just asking?
 
Yes, if blinkers = plastic mac
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Junior82 wrote:
I am guilty of being a voyeur.
 
 
 
Fixed.  

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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voyeur who plays football is what I meant.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Because the majority of people disagree with you then they are wrong?
 
Plenty of the people in question have slagged Daniel at times but his recent run of chances he's proven to be an asset to the point that most are frustrated that he was replaced in recent matches.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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I admit, Daniel has not been in amazing form over the whole season, but recently he has been one of our better players on the pitch. Three assists in the 5-2 against Jets, slotted a perfectly taken penalty against Sydney and was our most potent attacking player against Perth. If you call that mediocre then I would hate to hear what you have to say about players like Manny and Durante.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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Players fall out of form and then come back into form.  Such is football.
 
 
(unless you are called Jermaine Jenas)
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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zapdog wrote:
You say observant, yet you fail to see Daniel's laziness.Blinkered football voyeurs�


Watch the last game again. Off the top of my head I can think of 3 instances where he sprinted quite a way and made a good tackle. He is on the wing and managed to get there and cover brown who was still up having a chat with greenie.

Lazy? You're having a laugh.Tegal2012-01-12 15:27:36

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patrick478 wrote:
I admit, Daniel has not been in amazing form over the whole season, but recently he has been one of our better players on the pitch. Three assists in the 5-2 against Jets, slotted a perfectly taken penalty against Sydney and was our most potent attacking player against Perth. If you call that mediocre then I would hate to hear what you have to say about players like Manny and Durante.
 
Callig that a perfectly taen penalty is a bit over the top. As a remember, very saveable height  more or less went through Reddys hands. It did go in so suppose thats what matters, but I certainly did not feel confident with Daniel lining it up!
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patrick478 wrote:
Ward popped up with and assist and a goal in Dunedin, but that's all. At the moment for me, Daniel>Sanchez>Smith>>>Ward>>Bertos>Brown
 
Wait a minute...this is definitely not RH's ranking...
 
Brown>>>Bertos>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sanchez>Lia>Daniel>Ward>Smith>Lindsay
 
Safire2012-01-12 15:37:39
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Tegal wrote:
zapdog wrote:
You say observant, yet you fail to see Daniel's laziness.Blinkered football voyeurs 


Watch the last game again. Off the top of my head I can think of 3 instances where he sprinted quite a way and made a good tackle. He is on the wing and managed to get there and cover brown who was still up having a chat with greenie.

Lazy? You're having a laugh.
In the game home game here prior to that, Daniel sprinted a mile to get his man. Granted he almost fouled him but I do recall that cause he got spoken to by the ref.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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sthn.jeff wrote:
Callig that a perfectly taen penalty is a bit over the top. As a remember, very saveable height  more or less went through Reddys hands. It did go in so suppose thats what matters, but I certainly did not feel confident with Daniel lining it up!


He shot exactly where he always shoots penalties, Reddy knew which way to go and still couldn't stop it because it was just inside the post. I think that's a pretty perfect penalty.
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sthn.jeff wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
I admit, Daniel has not been in amazing form over the whole season, but recently he has been one of our better players on the pitch. Three assists in the 5-2 against Jets, slotted a perfectly taken penalty against Sydney and was our most potent attacking player against Perth. If you call that mediocre then I would hate to hear what you have to say about players like Manny and Durante.
 
Callig that a perfectly taen penalty is a bit over the top. As a remember, very saveable height  more or less went through Reddys hands. It did go in so suppose thats what matters, but I certainly did not feel confident with Daniel lining it up!
It looked to me like it went EXACTLY where Daniel intended it to go... So surely it is harder to take a penalty and pass it through the keeper's hands and still go in than it is to send the keeper the wrong way and comfortably roll it into the open side of the net?
 
So, I'd say, short of hitting the keepr on the nose and breaking his nose, and having the ball go in off his face, that' through the keeper's hands' would be one of the more difficult things to do, and thus closer to the 'perfect' penalty...

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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bwtcf wrote:
sthn.jeff wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
I admit, Daniel has not been in amazing form over the whole season, but recently he has been one of our better players on the pitch. Three assists in the 5-2 against Jets, slotted a perfectly taken penalty against Sydney and was our most potent attacking player against Perth. If you call that mediocre then I would hate to hear what you have to say about players like Manny and Durante.
 
Callig that a perfectly taen penalty is a bit over the top. As a remember, very saveable height  more or less went through Reddys hands. It did go in so suppose thats what matters, but I certainly did not feel confident with Daniel lining it up!
It looked to me like it went EXACTLY where Daniel intended it to go... So surely it is harder to take a penalty and pass it through the keeper's hands and still go in than it is to send the keeper the wrong way and comfortably roll it into the open side of the net?
 
So, I'd say, short of hitting the keepr on the nose and breaking his nose, and having the ball go in off his face, that' through the keeper's hands' would be one of the more difficult things to do, and thus closer to the 'perfect' penalty...


Faulty logic, but it did go in, perfect 


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Junior82 wrote:
Players fall out of form and then come back into form.  Such is football.
 
 
(unless you are called Jermaine Jenas)
 
 
 
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I liked RH's response in the stuff article questioning Brown and Berto's place... i think we can all improve.
 
Excellent deflection and a great way not to address the question in any meaningful way. Drop them both Ricki and see what happens, it can't bring us a worse result away from home than what we usually get.
 
Smith and Manny in the Middle with Lia at RB.
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Hard News wrote:
Ward?  He's been injured for weeks and was at best average prior to the injury.


Least Ward moves forward and tries to knock it round.  
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The implication of that statement being that Daniel doesn't? Wow. Just wow.

Daniel is tied for 2nd in the league for assists (admittedly with 4 ) and has been one of our most creative attack minded players when he has been on during the season. Tegal2012-01-12 16:36:12

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Tegal wrote:
The implication of that statement being that Daniel doesn't? Wow. Just wow.

Daniel is tied for 2nd in the league for assists (admittedly with 4 ) and has been one of our most creative attack minded players when he has been on during the season.


Calm down.

I didnt mention Daniel. I dont mind old Borat at all.






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Ugh brief moment of confusion. How embarrassing.

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martinb wrote:
I remember Ward had A good game where he actually managed to finish one...and also had an assist...against Sydney I think.



I'm pretty sure that was his first ever home game, so it's unfortunate that he hasn't done a great deal since.

As for Daniel, anyone who is suggesting that the fever has blind faith in the guy is completely nuts. He has been regularly criticised on these forums when he has been playing poorly, and all this high praise has only come recently since he's been in a good patch of form.

And quite rightly in both cases imo. He deserves praise at the moment right now because week in week out he is playing at a level somewhere between above average and brilliant, so kudos to him I say.


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