vs. Roar - Weds 3rd November

Brisbane were very good.

I tried to analyze a little what Brisbane were doing. They played a damn good game of football to say the least. But the two main attributes they seem to have are pace and work rate .They were able to have 6 men in or by the box defending for them and then in an instance have the same amount of players in the attacking midfield zone. They could effectively outnumber us in any area of the pitch they wanted. Kosta and Reinaldo would drop back into midfield to add numbers in an attack but be able to burst forward and cover the striking positions just as effectively, which of course is where the pace and work rate came in handy. All I could think is how the hell do they keep this up over 90 minutes?  WillyB2010-11-03 22:56:34

Pavlovic being dropped out of the entire squad is proof of Ricki's complete ineptitude IMO. Did quite well against top of the league Adelaide the other week, and got dropped.

No point ranting on about wholesale sacking of players....we have a good solid squad. We do have some good players. At the start of the season most commentators said we had one of the strongest squads in the comp.

Actually it's been so long since we lost at home (which was to Queensland roar I think - I remember saying to Jnr Jnr that this is what it feels like to support a Wgtn team), it's not as bad as i was thinking it would be.

Strangely the noise made after the exodus was much more spirited - maybe we should ask people to do that at half time?

Great post Whitby 100%

mjp22010-11-03 23:22:57

True. We did travel up to the RoD. That was wretched.

I'm so disappointed. We've NEVER lost to the Brisbane Roar at the Cake Tin before  .

Brisbane has ripped just about every defence to bits so far this season. Difference is that usually Reinaldo and others miss 6-7 clear cut chances whereas tonight they only missed 2 or 3. They are simply a very, very good team. This loss bore absolutely no resemblence to some of the horror shows of a few seasons back. Despite some admittedly average play from us I didn't notice anyone not trying.

They were the last team to beat us here. Oct 26 2008. 1-0

That was the Queensland Roar :P

Sure did.

Has Jade North played a single good game for us yet?

Not one that I've seen anyway. It amaxes me how he make the Socceroos starting 11 and Durante doesn't.

Way past time for Terry to have a chat isnt it.Wasnt it  after last seasons chat that they finally started to turn things around.

He did it just before the Sydney game at RoF in 2008/09 (won 2-1 but then lost to Roar).

Ah we've done it again. Bring back McKain.

we are gone. sorry to say it but if we cant WIN at home we don't stand a chance. our record has ended (was always going to sometime) but we haven't won for over a month, last win was over NQF on the 24th September, since then we played badly, and would say we were shaky there even, we were lucky not to lose to heart i'd say.... and atm i cant see a win coming from anywhere. i mean can anyone see us beating Perth next week??? no matter hwo bad they playing... its away... then CCM at home... if we continue to play like this we will struggle and are a contender for wooden spoon...

we need changes NOW
NORTH = g2g hasn't played a single minute of good football since he got here.doesn't want to be here, just everything else fell through, wish we didnt sell Mckain... our defence was soo good last year.

our midfield??? do we have one? we might as put on a bunch of pre schoolers, they would probably be more effective....

Ifill - is he going to stop eating and turn up for a game? put n lots of weight and has barely played all season, he has goals, not that he deserves them on how he played....


and i bet alot of people are wishing lochy could come back....   we need him. people complained about him, but look at how we are missing him....

there is 3 players i think deserve to be getting their pay checks atm; greenacre (playing great) muscat, durante (these 2 don't need explanations)

I think Ifill has been rubbish all season, and I'm amazed at how much I wish we had one or both of Jeremy Brockie or Kosta Barbaroseus to call on. Brown has to be dropped, his goal though will keep him in there.
Just to mix things up a bit.

               Vukovic
North Musa Durante Muscat
           Elliott Diego
Bertos                     Ward
          Greenacre Pavlovic

we should start a charity campaign to bring him back, or somehow trick his team into thinking north is better.... dont send them any nix videos tho....

cant say i agree with north being in there.... the rest i agree with

Agree with you 1000 percent. Ricki will be kicking himself.

That would certainly be interesting - better line up than what we've been putting out.

Greanacre have  a rest You have to be kidding He is playing much better tan Ilfil who I think should be resting. Greenacre runs his socks off which I can say tries a lot better than some players that just give up after the ball comes  a few meters from them
As for Simon Elliot to quick to put him.Should have had him on the bench
Not to take the plane to Perth
Ilfil North and Brown



Long trip home to Palmy last night

I just about cried.

Rubbish. Brisbane beat us by passing and moving x infinity. They didn't dribble around us, they passed around us. You don't beat sides by having 6 'flair' players on the park. (Admittedly having a couple does help).

So goodbye my love, I know it's over between us.

I would have to say full credit to the Roar last night.  Passing, movement, pace.  They attacked down both flanks, knocked it around, took people on all over the park.  I would say that's as good a performance as we've seen at the RoF from a visiting team in four years.  Maybe Melbourne a couple of years back in the rain were as good?  They wanted it way more, full of confidence, great team spirit etc. 

For the first time since we've been going to the home games , ( every one since the Phoenix started) , my little boy wanted to go home early.Cried all the way home. Not so much the loss ( although he HATES  losing) BUT THE WAY THEY FELL APART IN THE SECOND HALF."Dad , they're not even trying".I had to agree with him ( mostly). SOme of them in the second half couldn't be bother getting their tripes out , no ticker. It's OK to be done by a better te

your sons 100% right we gave up made me sad to see a team representing Wellington and not giving it all to the end.

ball speed is the key

My tip to Ricki for training.

Practice passing. Fast passing.
That will be all.

* Ricki to attend tactical school

jeebs we were poor.

very very very slow.  eliott needs to play further up the park in a-league and this doesn't necessarily mean that he shouldn't be playing holding midfield - the defence needs to play higher to compress the space.

sigmund was amazingly ponderous, static in his play from the back.

greenacre runs hard, but doesn't hold the ball up, create or finish well.  this is harsh because the service is poor and the next 2 are so far away from him.

brown and the rest of the midfielders bring nothing to the game.  last year's tactic was to hoof it forward and let brown pick up the scraps.  didn't like this tactic but at least it was a tactic.

bertos and ifill are being asked to start too deep, so their runs are ineffective and no linking is possible.

rant not over yet

i wish si elliott would whip his passes a bit more.  he's good an awesome range on him, but he tonks it way up high.  eventually when it does arrive the long pass has lost 50% of it's effectiveness.

not much evidence of a decent technique from the locals either - only durante, north, elliott and ifil seem to have one.  the rest look like they're struggling to play the game, let alone play it well.

some of the lads need to lay off the ritalin too - looked like they'd rather be asleep

I was a bit surprised Ricki chose a 4-3-3 formation against possibly the best side in the league atm and with it being Simon's first game. We got killed in the midfield with the Roars slick passing, a diamond formation would have provided a bit more cover I think. North needs to be the other CB and given some time to form the old partnership with Dura.