What's really wrong with the Wellington Phoenix?

So if that's the case why does he spout bullshark in the media like this 

"Our fans, predominantly Wellington-based, want to see the club at Westpac Stadium as much as they can – but we get applications from around New Zealand, from fan groups, from councils to see the Nix come play in their home city."

Why doesn't he say something along the lines of that there were always going to be 2 games outside of Wellington, the club needs it to break even, sorry about the late notice but this was due to circumstances beyond our control

Also the fact as a member I have to find out via the media is pretty sharkte, wouldn't take a lot for them to send out an email, as they do when they are promoting competitions etc. It's not as if this was a story that had leaked out and everyone knew before it was announced.

The last two seasons, I've had to sit through mediocre football in the vain hope it will get better and that eventually we will look like we know what we are doing. I know that's my choice but I do it because it's my club, but the relationship has to go both ways and this latest move and the way they have portrayed it just makes me feel as if they hold us fans in contempt and I really can't be bothered anymore.

So they can enjoy the sponsors dollars in Auckland with the few thousand that bother to turn up, I doubt they'll be seeing any of mine next season!

I'd like to expand on my peaceful protest action... Hows this for an idea.

At either of our last home games (Or both) we fill the zone with as many from around the ground as will come and help.  We wait till kickoff then all orderly wall out onto the concourse leaving the zone empty. We then go around to aisle 9 & 10 (?) below where the cameras are and re-establish our support of the team there, leaving the zone empty for the cameras but we still support the team and don't miss the game??

Just an idea and it is peaceful and it makes a point of some kind..and we'll be in the shade!

Not sure I could imagine Pignata being so gutless

#DomeOut

I think it's a good idea and the club probably deserves more of a back lash.

Unfortunately like any protest action, politics will get involved and those whom would be influential in getting this to work, won't want to get on Domes bad side.

domes bad side...doubt the man has a good side...i understand the money side of things but the   bullshark he spouts about the wellington fan base wanting to see the team as much as possible and after such a difficult season decides to send the team to auckland so the LOYAL HOME FAN BASE cant farewell its captain in what will likely be his final match for the club leaves me incredulous.it appears to me david dome is typical of so many executives in being promoted to a position higher than his competence level..somewhere in this organisation there seems to be a fuk the fans mentality...good luck making a success of that..player administrators coaches even owners are temporary fans on the other hand in general terms are permanent ..treating them so abysmally is short sighted and misguided...good luck with that..to all those who like myself who  were trekking from afar to this match you have my comiserations and i wish you all the best for next season..after all we support the club through thick and thin even if the club and its management dont appear to care..all the best dura...damn shame i wont be able to applaud your service to the club

ooops sorry jeff...think i promoted myself to a level above my competence in computer management haha...apologies vet diamond

what if dura doesnt retire???

In some ways good but then he might not have the legs to stop him from looking well past it.

Not trying to take away from Wellington fans frustration (pretty shark thing to do imo) but I wish they would stop holding events at QBE stadium in Auckland. 

Not only is it a lifeless shark venue, but the transport links are appalling and pubs close by are full of Twits

If you think you can convince 1000s of people to do this, then go ahead. 

agreed, I think for Dura it could well be a case that the mind is willing but the body might not be.

And therein is a classic example of the problem

So we can take this to mean nothing will happen because without the backing of the Fever "elite" it won't happen? I believe there is two sections to the zone now, maybe the other section will still do something. 

People completely blaming Dome really do miss the point, I feel. Replacing Dome with a Pignata at this point wouldn't make a lick of difference in my eyes.

It'd be a bit like replacing a coach when you have a terrible squad :)

Who runs the club? The licence owners or Sponsors?

Just like any franchise, you have obligations to your sponsors that must be met or you're likely to go under.

Every club is a balancing act... owners / sponsors / players / fans / the FFA. The CEO is the man who tries to keep everyone in balance and every one happy. Good luck!

Does Dura knows that some people here decided that he has to retire on the last Nix game this year?

Yes, you do have obligations but the club are the ones whom set out any contract and the sponsor can either take it or leave it. Obviously both parties try to accomodate each other but dictating where matches should be played by a Sponsor should be a no no clause.

The signs are there, do you want to see him carry on and ruin any reputation just for old times sake. It happens to every player, sooner or later the legs and knees can't take it. You slow down and experience does not get you there any quicker. I'm surprised he didn't retire last season. Good on him for giving it another burst this season but father time waits for no one.

email the club and see what they say

We didn't win the league with Tony P, despite the fact he's awesome and he spent a tonne of time chasing Joel Porter, whom he didn't sign. Tony was part of the team that signed Ahmed Elrich. He had Terry money to throw around. 

Let's deal with the here and now. Mistakes are being made, but we got Burns, Ljujic and Patterson. There was rot and we got decisive mid-year action.

There have been mistakes, but also good things happening. We're not dealing with support like in Melbourne.  And compared to the size of Sydney I'd actually say the 'Nix enjoy a damn good loyal bunch of supporters.

Yup but those obligations are known at the beginning. Not 8 weeks before the end of the season. All it would’ve taken was instead of having ‘Westpac Stadium’ listed as hosting the game, a little ‘tbc’ should’ve been put in its place. 

Along with not already selling tickets for the wrong venue of course... 

I have to be honest I used to think like that, but see this:

this is from the last game at QBE. 

This guy brought his very wee new born to the game. He deserved a free 4-3-3!

The new double decker buses from town are good, quick and comfy. The pub in the front of the mall was quite decent. The 4-3-3 is top notch.

There were a lot of new fans (see above!) and there was a good mood- helped by Kosta, FInkler and am I remembering correctly- Smeltzy?!?

There was a bus load of high school footballers from Northland came down and Patrick lead them in chants.

It was a good chance to spread the Phoenix love. 

It's a crap thing for the club to do to Wellington fans, but I hope it goes as well as my memory of the last one!

#WellyWellyO

said on radiosport on thursday on mchardys show that he likely to pull the pin as he didnt want be a squad player etc would rather go out while he was in control of his destiny..make of that what you want i guess...changes nothing anyway cos the last home game isnt when its played anywhere else

I tell you, there is more to this than just being perceived as shark owners of a football club. They are hanging on in the hope that the club will end up having some real value and either sell or use it as collateral for other business dealings. I can't accept for a moment that these top businessmen aren't aware of business 101 where you bend over backwards to try and keep them happy. Not alienate them at every opportunity. 

Your excellent last two sentences make perfect sense.

I encouraged them to go for it. 

Dura to be in Dome's posi next season?

two sections to the zone? YF Elite? this is part of the problem, if the fans cant form a united front then how can we expect the club to here one voice?

Fix the shambles that is the back office and the playing squad might follow.

fix the shambles on the field and you might not need to "fix" anything else.

Yeah it sucks losing this game. Although we did get a bonus game earlier in the season when the Canberra game fell through. This definitely could have been communicated better though, and I’m not convinced it was worth it because of the fact it pisses fans off at a time when the club really needs to turn its negative image around. I really would’ve thought that was more important. 

I get why they did it, and they would’ve weighed all this up and come to the tough decision that they did. I disagree with it, but I do realise that comes from my biased viewpoint as a fan - it’s not my money being lost so of course I’d put less weighting to that part of the decision. 

I’m pretty pissed off, but also kind of understand how the situation came about. It’s confusing!

You could start repairing the shambles by offering free sausage rolls for everyone on gameday!

Sure but if something was to be organised would the ones that are the core, that do the social media, run this website and have the Nix office ear actually back it if someone else started it. Because without that, it'll fall flat!

How about a protest brawl? 

The Fever People's Front vs the People's Front of the Fever

I'd even make the trip in to get involved in the slapping and hair pulling