WPM 2025/26 Squad Speculation, Confirmation and Mutual Termination

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AucklandPhoenix wrote:
 

Duncan - Not an import, knows the club, apparently was a model professional in aiding Alex.

No brainer.

Oh and he is a better keeper then Josh.
Duncan's save % this season 63.4%. He's been upsurped by 21 yr old Jack Warshawsky at the VUC. The last VUC match Duncan started was Jan 2nd.

Oluwayemi has a save % this season of 65.7%.

Josh O is younger and more athletic than 33 yr old journeyman Duncan. 

Oluwayemi is far likely to pull off some top saves in a match, that could be vital to getting a result. It's just whether Greeny & Cope (if they are there next season) have faith his bad clangers are mostly behind him.
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Nelfoos wrote:
Kraev would work well as one of the 10s in the current Greenie system, would he want to come back though?
His partner is Kiwi, his child is technically kiwi (born in Wellington) so surely there is slight hope there. I think he would thrive under Greenie in a 4-2-2-2... oh how I can dream.

On Josh, I am quite surprised the amount of people who are keen to keep him. To hold an import slot, especially as a keeper, you have to be miles better than any local talent. Is he? Yes take the derby's away and he's been ok but the guy cannot claim a cross to save his life. Even in Christchurch he got super lucky to get to that ball at the end - he completely misjudged the flight of the ball. He is also terrible with his feet. If we want to be more fluid and retain the ball we need a keeper who can play to feet/find their team mates. 
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In recent history, Nix have been at their best when we've had seasons with arguably the best performing keepers in the league that season. Kurto, Marinovic, Sail, Paulsen all had spells where you could make a very good case that they were in career best form and the best shot stoppers around each respective year. That steep drop off in quality between the sticks has been one of the factors in us losing our mojo over the last two seasons. When you combine that with the theory mentioned above that to carry an import slot you'd hope the player was streets ahead of local talent available - I just cannot get behind the enthusiasm to resign Josh Oluweyemi.

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coochiee wrote:
 AucklandPhoenix wrote:
 

Duncan - Not an import, knows the club, apparently was a model professional in aiding Alex.

No brainer.

Oh and he is a better keeper then Josh.
Duncan's save % this season 63.4%. He's been upsurped by 21 yr old Jack Warshawsky at the VUC. The last VUC match Duncan started was Jan 2nd.

Oluwayemi has a save % this season of 65.7%.

Josh O is younger and more athletic than 33 yr old journeyman Duncan. 

Oluwayemi is far likely to pull off some top saves in a match, that could be vital to getting a result. It's just whether Greeny & Cope (if they are there next season) have faith his bad clangers are mostly behind him.
33 is not old for a keeper.

And do your stats include own goals?

Hard to make a save against yourself I guess?

If your live depended upon it no sane man chooses Josh over Duncan in a game.

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Maaaaaaatt wrote:
Jack Duncan is off contract at the end of the season. I'd rather him as a backup to AKH than have JO take up an import slot. 
I'd have Duncan as my starter. He did nothing wrong at Victory.
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20 days ago
Here's our current squad

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If we were picking up 5 imports and nothing else, it would have to be LB, 2xCM, AM and ST. 

If we pick up starting quality locals (Rufer, Singh etc) I'd be looking use the import slot that frees to improve depth in AM (LBS is young to be a full season starter, particularly with GSR and walker as backup), Striker (love Corban, but he's limited) and midfield (looks bloody grim) before I'd consider using an import slot on a keeper. 

All that to say I don't get why people are so keen to sign JO. 
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Not sure the Nix will use a Visa spot on a LB. 

Have the Nix ever signed Visa full backs? Gut feel is that it's been uncommon, and perhaps rare as a whole over the A League.

Suspect Greeny will give Edwards a new deal, or look see who out there among Kiwis/Aussies is uncontracted. Dalton Wilkins could be an option. Or someone from the OFC Pro League worth a crack. 
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Salas was a full back
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and one of the better ones in the league.

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LG wrote:
Salas was a full back
So one example (he also played in midfield) after 19 seasons?

He was a bit meh at the Nix, and Chiefy let him go.

There are other positions that Greeny will definitely target to fill with visa players first. LB will be more wait and see how the other squad spots look first.
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coochiee wrote:
 LG wrote:
Salas was a full back
So one example (he also played in midfield) after 19 seasons?

He was a bit meh at the Nix, and Chiefy let him go.

Other positions that Greeny will definitely target to fill with visa players first. LB will be more wait and see how the other squad spots look first.
Yeah, he was signed more as a midfielder that played a little at fb

The Phoenix have signed midfielder Youstin Salas on loan from Costa Rican champions Deportivo Saprissa for the remainder of the 2023-24 Isuzu UTE A-League.
https://wellingtonphoenix.com/news/costa-rica-international-joins-the-nix/
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coochiee wrote:
Not sure the Nix will use a Visa spot on a LB. 

Have the Nix ever signed Visa full backs? Gut feel is that it's been uncommon, and perhaps rare as a whole over the A League.

Suspect Greeny will give Edwards a new deal, or look see who out there among Kiwis/Aussies is uncontracted. Dalton Wilkins could be an option. Or someone from the OFC Pro League worth a crack. 
Admittedly have not watched Wilkins as of late but have always rated him. That wests (Declan Edge) team with Stamenic, Nando, Wilkins, Just, Parker-Price etc were unbelievable - all are in or have been in All Whites squads. Wilkins would be a massive step up on Edwards and is a very offensive full back, something Edwards is terrible at.
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20 days ago
Personally think LB makes sense for one import spot, as the Kiwi options aren't stunning outside of Dalton Wilkins (who we might not get). Nathan Lobo, Adam Supyk & Ollie van Rijssel all in OPL, but none of whom have really stood out. Could try bringing in somebody like Ronan Wynne, Zac Zoricich or Haris Zeb and retrain them I guess.
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We’ve tried 3 years for a LB- LKH, Loke, Armiento, Hughes, Edwards, Sheridan.

Four of those guys were found out defensively and two or three don’t offer that much going forward. 

I thought maybe Edwards could do the job. Maybe he still can. But he’s like other FBs we’ve played- nice guy, not one of our top players. 

If de Vries hadn’t lit up for Auckland, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. We’d be bumbling on. 

Have we ever had a Behich level LB? 

The other alternative is to teach Armiento to defend. I would wanna see him in a 10 probably though, and that might have its own problems. Or a 9 with Piper? That’d be interesting. 

I want to see us threaten down both flanks without weakening our defense. Can do? Probably an import right? But…as Coochie is saying not a common import position. We alternatively need to adapt a strong player to play there. Which again is…?


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Yeah interesting that SIU have been playing Zeb a bit at LB. That might be more to do with the injuries/illnesses they have had lately. The guy is skilful.

We have no real idea who could be available (Kiwi/Aussie) between now in October.

I'd just guess that the Nix will look to fill other spots with visa players like striker, AM and a quality DM if Rufer left, before focussing on LB.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Hughes got sold, though to date there have been zero rumours about him. But Nix may yet need another visa CB.
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Rock Hopper wrote:
In recent history, Nix have been at their best when we've had seasons with arguably the best performing keepers in the league that season. Kurto, Marinovic, Sail, Paulsen all had spells where you could make a very good case that they were in career best form and the best shot stoppers around each respective year. That steep drop off in quality between the sticks has been one of the factors in us losing our mojo over the last two seasons. When you combine that with the theory mentioned above that to carry an import slot you'd hope the player was streets ahead of local talent available - I just cannot get behind the enthusiasm to resign Josh Oluweyemi.

 
At the moment best keeper in the league won’t be Duncan or either of the young guys we’ve got on our books. 

The young guys need some game time, and it’s bad, bad news we’ve been booted out of the Australia Cup. We should be making louder protests on behalf of Lacey Brook and Girdwood-Reich. Paulsen was a good keeper anyway, but that penalty shootout and that campaign helped him a lot.

If Josh eliminated errors I could see him having a near top season, but also I enjoyed McCarron catching corners. 


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martinb wrote:
 Rock Hopper wrote:
In recent history, Nix have been at their best when we've had seasons with arguably the best performing keepers in the league that season. Kurto, Marinovic, Sail, Paulsen all had spells where you could make a very good case that they were in career best form and the best shot stoppers around each respective year. That steep drop off in quality between the sticks has been one of the factors in us losing our mojo over the last two seasons. When you combine that with the theory mentioned above that to carry an import slot you'd hope the player was streets ahead of local talent available - I just cannot get behind the enthusiasm to resign Josh Oluweyemi.

 
At the moment best keeper in the league won’t be Duncan or either of the young guys we’ve got on our books. 

The young guys need some game time, and it’s bad, bad news we’ve been booted out of the Australia Cup. We should be making louder protests on behalf of Lacey Brook and Girdwood-Reich. Paulsen was a good keeper anyway, but that penalty shootout and that campaign helped him a lot.

If Josh eliminated errors I could see him having a near top season, but also I enjoyed McCarron catching corners. 
I just have not seen anything to show Josh would be a top keeper though? He collapsed in all derbys, is so shaking at claiming anything in his area, he hoofs the ball when passed back to him. What am I missing that some people here are seeing that say, lets keep him.

Do people on here want to improve or do we want to keep players cause "they're nice guys"...?
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14 contracts up for grabs and on tonight's effort only Eze is putting his hand up and he is the one player we won't be able to hang onto. I would very seriously consider sacking some of our home grown players as not being  good enough 
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coochiee wrote:
Yeah interesting that SIU have been playing Zeb a bit at LB. That might be more to do with the injuries/illnesses they have had lately. The guy is skilful.

We have no real idea who could be available (Kiwi/Aussie) between now in October.

I'd just guess that the Nix will look to fill other spots with visa players like striker, AM and a quality DM if Rufer left, before focussing on LB.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Hughes got sold, though to date there have been zero rumours about him. But Nix may yet need another visa CB.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Hughes hasn’t been deemed good enough to make the All Whites squad yet. Unlikely the world wants him.

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20 days ago
Not too worried about Eze departing as with Pierre-Michel Lasogga finally coming in we should have that goal scoring slot covered however tonight's game is definitely an indicator our midfield is going to be lacking without Rufer, and definitely an area we need to go shopping for. 
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Well it's all over and I can see 13 vacancies. 
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coochiee wrote:
Not sure the Nix will use a Visa spot on a LB. 

Have the Nix ever signed Visa full backs? Gut feel is that it's been uncommon, and perhaps rare as a whole over the A League.

Suspect Greeny will give Edwards a new deal, or look see who out there among Kiwis/Aussies is uncontracted. Dalton Wilkins could be an option. Or someone from the OFC Pro League worth a crack. 
Salas aside, (as others have mentioned, not actually a fullback when he signed) there's not been any others I can think of. 

It's certainly rare for the A-League as a whole, I can only remember a handful - Llorente for WSW, Pretty sure Perth had a Japanese bloke who was an attacking fullback, Ritchie de Laet (although he may have been more a CB, can't recall). The stand out though has to be Sakai, he's certainly not been a waste of an import spot. 
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martinb wrote:
We’ve tried 3 years for a LB- LKH, Loke, Armiento, Hughes, Edwards, Sheridan.

Four of those guys were found out defensively and two or three don’t offer that much going forward. 

I thought maybe Edwards could do the job. Maybe he still can. But he’s like other FBs we’ve played- nice guy, not one of our top players. 

If de Vries hadn’t lit up for Auckland, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. We’d be bumbling on. 

Have we ever had a Behich level LB? 

The other alternative is to teach Armiento to defend. I would wanna see him in a 10 probably though, and that might have its own problems. Or a 9 with Piper? That’d be interesting. 

I want to see us threaten down both flanks without weakening our defense. Can do? Probably an import right? But…as Coochie is saying not a common import position. We alternatively need to adapt a strong player to play there. Which again is…?
Loke looked ok enough but seemed to fall out of favor.  Seems a more natural LB than LKH. Don't really see what LKH offers when they have played him a LB or even midfield. 

Like Greenie but never been convinced of the 4-2-2-2 formation so not sure how they recruit for that. 

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19 days ago · edited 19 days ago · History
All, of course, as I see it, but:

Eze, Hughes, Rufer, LBS, Nagasawa. That's the lot who deliver confidently and consistently at A League quality starter level.  None being perfect but consistently good enough. LBS a bit of an incomplete player still, but has enough to be special starting sauce. Nagasawa delivers as soon as he doesn't have to carry the entire midfield and creative duties. Great attitude and work rate. That's not perfection but it's a solid enough starting base. Obviously with a couple of likely retention issues.

Of the rest that I'd consider as up to scratch as starters in a stronger squad:
Payne still has his quality contributions while now getting found out defensively more often and more inconsistent than he was. 
Retre is a tidy link player with good players around him. Lacks physicality but, like Tim Brown, does more than he gets credit for.
Josh? We may have trained him into a more reliable, better player than he arrived. And with less game time AKH and Carrol also had game killing bloopers. 

So that's 8 I'd keep as starters.

Must haves: 
Eze or replacement if gone. Import 1.
Strong playmaking, leading import level CAM - import 2. In an alt universe give me a young Juan Mata. Franco Geraldes level would do.
Singh could share some time here with Nagasawa and import 2, if Singh became a free.
Import 3 I've committed to Josh. 
Import 4 Rufer replace if needed.
Import 5 LB.

That's 9 starters. Positionally a LB and CB needed. Rufs and Eze kept or replaced. New CAM. Many will disagree on me keeping Josh. 

Tuiloma we've got, like it or not. He's a plusses and minuses guy, goals at both ends. Please god let us keep Hughes another year. But the little I've seen of Jayden Smith had me interested. 

So, really it's Eze, Import CAM, Rufs, LB to sort. With Josh, I've got four imports to spend if need be.

And I've got a back four and DM CAM Retre and Nagasawa diamond mid. LBS, Eze up top. LBS coming deeper more. Goals from Eze/CAM and bits and pieces.

Others. 
Piper: touch and shot of a drunken horse. Otherwise good. I'd start LBS. But Piper to bully goals late.
Sheridan: has some real wheels. Needs that forward pass and cross. Potential Payne understudy and replacement if he can develop. UtilityDM? Last chance to show more development. 
LKH: not really a RB with his turning circle. But a back up there. Potential Rufer long term replacement, but strengthen up for there.  Don't know that he's hard enough for CB but he's young. 
Edwards: maybe but I want threats from both flanks. 
Armiento: maybe but I want good defence on both flanks.
I'd do that import at LB. 
Conchie: end of the road, unless a coach sees something I don't. 
Najjarine: maybe, but Singh or him, as competition and depth for Retre, Nagasawa, CAM.
Sander: not enough. 
Cassidy, Loke, GSR, Walker, Supyk. It's the big time. Get big, get better. Come on up if you can.

We'd still be a fairly slight midfield so I'd want a hard, strong CAM. And CAM, Rufs, Striker, Hughes, BT, to some extent Payne dishing enforcement as required vs Aussies and Aucklanders. You don't have to be dirty but you have to be strong.
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19 days ago
Sorry cannot agree on Retre, a passenger who has no idea about shutting down an opposing player and does not get involved enough. Then when he is in possession looks to go back far too much. In summary a poor player.
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whatever-11456-1 wrote:
Sorry cannot agree on Retre, a passenger who has no idea about shutting down an opposing player and does not get involved enough. Then when he is in possession looks to go back far too much. In summary a poor player.
I'd say he's the least impactful of the guys I'd be prepared to keep as a starter. But he's in the right place mostly, experienced, not prone to dangerous give away turnovers.  Not the fastest and is tidy linking play, as I see him. 

Sure, replace him with better. Or see a Cassidy, or LKH or other force their way into that spot. 

I just see him as tidy and competent enough and, with Nagasawa, CAM, striker, LBS, Rufs or replacement you have enough quality and impact to have one of your mids in more of the linking and adjusting sort of role. Plus he has that shot if given a bit of space.

But sure, everybody has their views. We could potentially do better. But you have a cap and a budget, so not every starter can be ideal.



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MannyMuscatsBrother wrote:
 martinb wrote:
 Rock Hopper wrote:
In recent history, Nix have been at their best when we've had seasons with arguably the best performing keepers in the league that season. Kurto, Marinovic, Sail, Paulsen all had spells where you could make a very good case that they were in career best form and the best shot stoppers around each respective year. That steep drop off in quality between the sticks has been one of the factors in us losing our mojo over the last two seasons. When you combine that with the theory mentioned above that to carry an import slot you'd hope the player was streets ahead of local talent available - I just cannot get behind the enthusiasm to resign Josh Oluweyemi.

 
At the moment best keeper in the league won’t be Duncan or either of the young guys we’ve got on our books. 

The young guys need some game time, and it’s bad, bad news we’ve been booted out of the Australia Cup. We should be making louder protests on behalf of Lacey Brook and Girdwood-Reich. Paulsen was a good keeper anyway, but that penalty shootout and that campaign helped him a lot.

If Josh eliminated errors I could see him having a near top season, but also I enjoyed McCarron catching corners. 
I just have not seen anything to show Josh would be a top keeper though? He collapsed in all derbys, is so shaking at claiming anything in his area, he hoofs the ball when passed back to him. What am I missing that some people here are seeing that say, lets keep him.

Do people on here want to improve or do we want to keep players cause "they're nice guys"...?
Josh is piss poor for the league. He would not start for a club like Wellington Olympic. If we re-sign him and potential signings see this, they should be like yeah nah.

Teams that win trophies are ruthless and sign the best players regardless if they are nice guys or not.
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observerfromuh wrote:
 MannyMuscatsBrother wrote:
 martinb wrote:
 Rock Hopper wrote:
In recent history, Nix have been at their best when we've had seasons with arguably the best performing keepers in the league that season. Kurto, Marinovic, Sail, Paulsen all had spells where you could make a very good case that they were in career best form and the best shot stoppers around each respective year. That steep drop off in quality between the sticks has been one of the factors in us losing our mojo over the last two seasons. When you combine that with the theory mentioned above that to carry an import slot you'd hope the player was streets ahead of local talent available - I just cannot get behind the enthusiasm to resign Josh Oluweyemi.

 
At the moment best keeper in the league won’t be Duncan or either of the young guys we’ve got on our books. 

The young guys need some game time, and it’s bad, bad news we’ve been booted out of the Australia Cup. We should be making louder protests on behalf of Lacey Brook and Girdwood-Reich. Paulsen was a good keeper anyway, but that penalty shootout and that campaign helped him a lot.

If Josh eliminated errors I could see him having a near top season, but also I enjoyed McCarron catching corners. 
I just have not seen anything to show Josh would be a top keeper though? He collapsed in all derbys, is so shaking at claiming anything in his area, he hoofs the ball when passed back to him. What am I missing that some people here are seeing that say, lets keep him.

Do people on here want to improve or do we want to keep players cause "they're nice guys"...?
Josh is piss poor for the league. He would not start for a club like Wellington Olympic. If we re-sign him and potential signings see this, they should be like yeah nah.

Teams that win trophies are ruthless and sign the best players regardless if they are nice guys or not.
Your last paragraph sums it up perfectly. I think a lot of these Academy players of the last 3 seasons either need to man up or be gotten rid of. Sorry but that is a fact. Imports, move them on. Only a miracle would keep Eze. Last night he got fuck all service but the Mac goalie did receive an endless supply of long balls to practice his catching or trapping skills with. I hate 4-2-2-2. I prefer a 4-4-2 or a 4-1-2-1-2 formation myself.
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19 days ago
I wonder how well Greenie will be backed.

Last offseason we got what could arguably be called like-for-like replacements for Kosta and Wootton (in terms of profile and cost, though I think Eze and James would have been cheaper) and basically filled up the squad with a bunch of journeymen. I highly doubt anybody before the season was excited about any of Armiento, Mileusnic, Najjarine or Edwards. There certainly was no like-for-like Rojas/Chico or Sutton replacement. And this was after a season where we finished much closer to the spoon and played worse than we did this season. 

All this is to say, we really need a massive injection of much higher quality all across the squad but I'm not expecting it, because you could make the argument that we were in a much weaker position last year and Chiefy got crumbs to work with. 

The only reason for optimism is that maybe the justification was that we had no visa spots and there was little local quality available in that window, we got Singh & Tuiloma when they became available after all. But we have 5 visa spots to play with now (James, Kartum & Josh aren't good enough, Nagasawa is probably too old and should be replaced by a younger equivalent, and no chance Eze stays). Lets see how much ambition the club have. 
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mjp2 wrote:
 whatever-11456-1 wrote:
Sorry cannot agree on Retre, a passenger who has no idea about shutting down an opposing player and does not get involved enough. Then when he is in possession looks to go back far too much. In summary a poor player.
I'd say he's the least impactful of the guys I'd be prepared to keep as a starter. But he's in the right place mostly, experienced, not prone to dangerous give away turnovers.  Not the fastest and is tidy linking play, as I see him. 

Sure, replace him with better. Or see a Cassidy, or LKH or other force their way into that spot. 

I just see him as tidy and competent enough and, with Nagasawa, CAM, striker, LBS, Rufs or replacement you have enough quality and impact to have one of your mids in more of the linking and adjusting sort of role. Plus he has that shot if given a bit of space.

But sure, everybody has their views. We could potentially do better. But you have a cap and a budget, so not every starter can be ideal.





Generally agree with what you say about Retre, and it's true, the bottom line is what we can afford under the cap. That said I'd be concerned if next season tidy and competent enough was a good enough recommendation to get you a starting spot. Retre and Nagasawa will be 35 next season; we really don't want both of those guys starting. Just maybe Nagasawa, because his attitude is fantastic, but we need someone younger, hungrier and more robust than Retre.

Payne and Tuiloma aren't getting any younger either and based on what we've seen of them this season I have real concerns going forward. Payne seems to be struggling with motivation and has been found wanting defensively far too often for a player of his class, and every good thing Tuiloma does is inevitably cancelled out by a costly brain fade. Definitely not what you want from your experienced AWs that you are hoping to build a competitive team around next season. 
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Does anybody know when players' contracts expire exactly, for those at the end of their deals? I am guessing we probably won't be hearing any goodbyes until the week they do (unless players sign for and are announced by other teams before then)

Edit: Final isn't until the 23rd of May so I would expect that the contracts run until June at least
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Might be tough getting 5 imports to come here.  We shouldn't settle for anyone and would still like us to retain our no dickheads policy.  


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Outpost wrote:
 mjp2 wrote:
 whatever-11456-1 wrote:
Sorry cannot agree on Retre, a passenger who has no idea about shutting down an opposing player and does not get involved enough. Then when he is in possession looks to go back far too much. In summary a poor player.
I'd say he's the least impactful of the guys I'd be prepared to keep as a starter. But he's in the right place mostly, experienced, not prone to dangerous give away turnovers.  Not the fastest and is tidy linking play, as I see him. 

Sure, replace him with better. Or see a Cassidy, or LKH or other force their way into that spot. 

I just see him as tidy and competent enough and, with Nagasawa, CAM, striker, LBS, Rufs or replacement you have enough quality and impact to have one of your mids in more of the linking and adjusting sort of role. Plus he has that shot if given a bit of space.

But sure, everybody has their views. We could potentially do better. But you have a cap and a budget, so not every starter can be ideal.




 

Generally agree with what you say about Retre, and it's true, the bottom line is what we can afford under the cap. That said I'd be concerned if next season tidy and competent enough was a good enough recommendation to get you a starting spot. Retre and Nagasawa will be 35 next season; we really don't want both of those guys starting. Just maybe Nagasawa, because his attitude is fantastic, but we need someone younger, hungrier and more robust than Retre.

Payne and Tuiloma aren't getting any younger either and based on what we've seen of them this season I have real concerns going forward. Payne seems to be struggling with motivation and has been found wanting defensively far too often for a player of his class, and every good thing Tuiloma does is inevitably cancelled out by a costly brain fade. Definitely not what you want from your experienced AWs that you are hoping to build a competitive team around next season. 
I think it's all to hard to judge from the games with chief in charge. Apart from last night, Greenie had tightened the backline massively. I'd like to see what Hughes and Bill can do together, along with Payne if given a full pre-season under chiefy.
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19 days ago
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
 coochiee wrote:
Yeah interesting that SIU have been playing Zeb a bit at LB. That might be more to do with the injuries/illnesses they have had lately. The guy is skilful.

We have no real idea who could be available (Kiwi/Aussie) between now in October.

I'd just guess that the Nix will look to fill other spots with visa players like striker, AM and a quality DM if Rufer left, before focussing on LB.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Hughes got sold, though to date there have been zero rumours about him. But Nix may yet need another visa CB.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Hughes hasn’t been deemed good enough to make the All Whites squad yet. Unlikely the world wants him.
You don't need the world.
Just a Pompey, Preston, Peterborough, Plymouth or Port Vale. UK passport.
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19 days ago
Long way away from the championship and likely also league one.

Auckland will rise once more

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19 days ago
Bradman99 wrote:
 martinb wrote:
We’ve tried 3 years for a LB- LKH, Loke, Armiento, Hughes, Edwards, Sheridan.

Four of those guys were found out defensively and two or three don’t offer that much going forward. 

I thought maybe Edwards could do the job. Maybe he still can. But he’s like other FBs we’ve played- nice guy, not one of our top players. 

If de Vries hadn’t lit up for Auckland, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. We’d be bumbling on. 

Have we ever had a Behich level LB? 

The other alternative is to teach Armiento to defend. I would wanna see him in a 10 probably though, and that might have its own problems. Or a 9 with Piper? That’d be interesting. 

I want to see us threaten down both flanks without weakening our defense. Can do? Probably an import right? But…as Coochie is saying not a common import position. We alternatively need to adapt a strong player to play there. Which again is…?
Loke looked ok enough but seemed to fall out of favor.  Seems a more natural LB than LKH. Don't really see what LKH offers when they have played him a LB or even midfield. 

Like Greenie but never been convinced of the 4-2-2-2 formation so not sure how they recruit for that. 


Loke struggled playing a high line against Randall. Didn’t get much of a look in from Chief after that. 

When you say more natural, it really depends on the qualities you’re looking for. I’d back Lucas to win a few headers.


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observerfromuh wrote:
 MannyMuscatsBrother wrote:
 martinb wrote:
 Rock Hopper wrote:
In recent history, Nix have been at their best when we've had seasons with arguably the best performing keepers in the league that season. Kurto, Marinovic, Sail, Paulsen all had spells where you could make a very good case that they were in career best form and the best shot stoppers around each respective year. That steep drop off in quality between the sticks has been one of the factors in us losing our mojo over the last two seasons. When you combine that with the theory mentioned above that to carry an import slot you'd hope the player was streets ahead of local talent available - I just cannot get behind the enthusiasm to resign Josh Oluweyemi.

 
At the moment best keeper in the league won’t be Duncan or either of the young guys we’ve got on our books. 

The young guys need some game time, and it’s bad, bad news we’ve been booted out of the Australia Cup. We should be making louder protests on behalf of Lacey Brook and Girdwood-Reich. Paulsen was a good keeper anyway, but that penalty shootout and that campaign helped him a lot.

If Josh eliminated errors I could see him having a near top season, but also I enjoyed McCarron catching corners. 
I just have not seen anything to show Josh would be a top keeper though? He collapsed in all derbys, is so shaking at claiming anything in his area, he hoofs the ball when passed back to him. What am I missing that some people here are seeing that say, lets keep him.

Do people on here want to improve or do we want to keep players cause "they're nice guys"...?
Josh is piss poor for the league. He would not start for a club like Wellington Olympic. If we re-sign him and potential signings see this, they should be like yeah nah.

Teams that win trophies are ruthless and sign the best players regardless if they are nice guys or not.
Well who’s starting for Wellington Olympic? Let’s sign them. 

Josh is a better and more reliable shot stopper than McCarron or AKH as of this season. 

The point was made about our top keepers- Kurto, Paulsen, Sail of recent times and none of our 3 options are near those guys when they were in form. And Marinovic too. Sail dropped off in his last season though.

Josh is the most reliable of the current 3. If you’re taking shots at him, put names of better keepers out there. 

I don’t think Duncan would be a significant upgrade personally, but might allow us to rearrange our imports and be equally good as what we currently have. 

With our midfield. Roa Conchie…sorry to say but don’t think he’s Rufer waiting to have a breakthrough. And I don’t want Retre. Nagasawa I much much prefer playing one of the wide 10s in the 4222 that Greenie seems to like or that used to be the club model. Back up 6 at most. 

So we need two new starting 6s if Rufer is gone and at least one if he’s staying.


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19 days ago
Off contract Kiwi and Australian goalkeepers that are similar to or better than Josh:
- Oli Sail
- Nik Tzanev
- Mat Ryan
- Tom Glover
- Ashley Maynard-Brewer
- Nicholas Bilokapic
- Macklin Freke
- Andrew Redmayne
- Jack Duncan
- Jack Warshawsky
- Dean Bouzanis

Ryan, Glover, Maynard-Brewer and Bilokapic are obviously all out of the question.

Personally I’d happily take Tzanev, Freke or Duncan. Jordan Holmes is also off contract in 2027 and I imagine WSW could potentially get mutual with him.

With a few decent options available, surely it makes sense to let Josh go and use his import spot somewhere else. There are other positions that we won’t be able to fill with local players.
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