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WPM R14 vs Newcastle Jets | Sat 27th Jan | 8:00pm | Sky Sport 5

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about 2 years ago
mjp2
I don't want to be too negative but we've got an A league with the top side defending in a 5-3-2 and scoring only from penalties.

Not entirely true of the season, as a whole, but you can see why the League is in trouble.

I'll take it, but I'd like to see us back to where we were during our best spell of the season when we were scoring some great goals.  Though even then most games were tight. 
Chiefy has said we play defensive on the road, and attack at home.
All part of the plan! That said this doesn't feel like a game for the neutral 
about 2 years ago
Sutton is having a stinker
about 2 years ago · edited about 2 years ago · History
maynardf
mjp2
I don't want to be too negative but we've got an A league with the top side defending in a 5-3-2 and scoring only from penalties.

Not entirely true of the season, as a whole, but you can see why the League is in trouble.

I'll take it, but I'd like to see us back to where we were during our best spell of the season when we were scoring some great goals.  Though even then most games were tight. 
Chiefy has said we play defensive on the road, and attack at home.
All part of the plan! That said this doesn't feel like a game for the neutral 

I understand that desire for "entertaining" high scoring games to draw in the crowds every week, but that just isnt football. If you're relying on cricket scores to draw in the non-footballing fans you'll lose the purists who love the actual challenge of playing away and coming home with a 1-0 win. Defense wins championships, pure and simple.

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 2 years ago
mjp2
I don't want to be too negative but we've got an A league with the top side defending in a 5-3-2 and scoring only from penalties.

Not entirely true of the season, as a whole, but you can see why the League is in trouble.

I'll take it, but I'd like to see us back to where we were during our best spell of the season when we were scoring some great goals.  Though even then most games were tight. 
 
Your right, attack looks a bit laboured in recent month. They are still not switching  to faster to attack, no really good through balls or little one-two around the box. It was better early in the season.
about 2 years ago
Haven’t come in here for a while. Jeepers there’s a lot of negativity. If only we were top of the league. Oh wait. 

I know, I know, its serious!

about 2 years ago
mjp2
I don't want to be too negative but we've got an A league with the top side defending in a 5-3-2 and scoring only from penalties.

Not entirely true of the season, as a whole, but you can see why the League is in trouble.

I'll take it, but I'd like to see us back to where we were during our best spell of the season when we were scoring some great goals.  Though even then most games were tight. 
The lack of Old has taken some of the sting and speed out of our counterattacks. Also Pennington has been showing good attacking qualities in the midfield in recent times but he's not there today and is struggling a wee bit trying to get to grips with an unfamiliar role. Slightly worried about him getting a second yellow frankly.
about 2 years ago
lol at Jets player (Goodwin) not knowing where the hadball line starts, gets hit on his lower arm and points to his upper arm to suggest that would be better.

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 2 years ago
mjp2
I don't want to be too negative but we've got an A league with the top side defending in a 5-3-2 and scoring only from penalties.

Not entirely true of the season, as a whole, but you can see why the League is in trouble.

I'll take it, but I'd like to see us back to where we were during our best spell of the season when we were scoring some great goals.  Though even then most games were tight. 
 That was the time when we were a new team because Italiano made us play differently from Ufuk Talay.  With time the opposition worked out what we do differently now, so the element of surprise is gone.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

about 2 years ago
We really are missing Payne on the right side today. Less so for the defensive work, but hugely for his attacking work.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

about 2 years ago
theprof
maynardf
mjp2
I don't want to be too negative but we've got an A league with the top side defending in a 5-3-2 and scoring only from penalties.

Not entirely true of the season, as a whole, but you can see why the League is in trouble.

I'll take it, but I'd like to see us back to where we were during our best spell of the season when we were scoring some great goals.  Though even then most games were tight. 
Chiefy has said we play defensive on the road, and attack at home.
All part of the plan! That said this doesn't feel like a game for the neutral 

I understand that desire for "entertaining" high scoring games to draw in the crowds every week, but that just isnt football. If you're relying on cricket scores to draw in the non-footballing fans you'll lose the purists who love the actual challenge of plating away and coming home with a 1-0 win. Defense wins championships, pure and simple.
I don't need cricket scores.  So you're creating a bit of a straw man there.  
 
But sure.  It is an entertainment game.  If we want to see a thriving league it'll need to be better than this.  In the meantime I'll settle for winning.  

At the moment we're nearly playing an under 15 side and walking it.
about 2 years ago
Why does every possession have to back to the centre half?
No wonder crowds are dieing
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it's a way of contolling posession, especially when there is nothing up front. a lot of teams across the globe are using the tactic to very good effect.
Posession based footy doesn't necessarily mean attack with the ball all the time, it's about holing onto the ball and making the opposition chase you until they are out of position creating a chance for an attack.

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 2 years ago
imanixsupporter
Sutton is having a stinker

Looking like Louis Fenton in the latter years of his career, couple touches then turns back to the centre back. Frustrating given over the years he's always been better in the attacking third
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

about 2 years ago
Fenix
Why does every possession have to back to the centre half?
No wonder crowds are dieing

Would love to see us hit an early ball into the box and not allow them to get back into their shape by simply recycling it back.
about 2 years ago
Fenix
Why does every possession have to back to the centre half?
No wonder crowds are dieing
You don't understand football. That's fine. Just accept it
about 2 years ago
Pennington trying his best to get a second yellow.
I think he missed Grozos but still.

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 2 years ago
Pennington is a moron, shut up and walk away
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Pull your head in Pennington. Don't fu ck it up for us. In fact I hope Chiefy is starting to look at getting him off.
about 2 years ago
mjp2
theprof
maynardf
mjp2
I don't want to be too negative but we've got an A league with the top side defending in a 5-3-2 and scoring only from penalties.

Not entirely true of the season, as a whole, but you can see why the League is in trouble.

I'll take it, but I'd like to see us back to where we were during our best spell of the season when we were scoring some great goals.  Though even then most games were tight. 
Chiefy has said we play defensive on the road, and attack at home.
All part of the plan! That said this doesn't feel like a game for the neutral 

I understand that desire for "entertaining" high scoring games to draw in the crowds every week, but that just isnt football. If you're relying on cricket scores to draw in the non-footballing fans you'll lose the purists who love the actual challenge of plating away and coming home with a 1-0 win. Defense wins championships, pure and simple.
I don't need cricket scores.  So you're creating a bit of a straw man there.  
 
But sure.  It is an entertainment game.  If we want to see a thriving league it'll need to be better than this.  In the meantime I'll settle for winning.  

At the moment we're nearly playing an under 15 side and walking it.

The whole "need more goals/entertainment thing to bring in crowds" doesnt work. Remember the 24k that turned up at our first game back home after Covid? We thrashed WU 3 nil scoring some great goals. And how many of those turned up a week later? Just saying 
about 2 years ago
YoungHeartHM
Pull your head in Pennington. Don't fu ck it up for us. In fact I hope Chiefy is starting to look at getting him off.
Ha, the irony of Pennington doing the "lets calm this down" gesture just then.
about 2 years ago
Geez Kosta - almost running into your own man there!
about 2 years ago
Zawadaaaaa!!!!

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 2 years ago
How greedy is Ben old could have bumped it in to Kostas path ten times over
about 2 years ago
Nommag
How greedy is Ben old could have bumped it in to Kostas path ten times over

said it many times, his pace and touch are great, but his option taking is relatively poor. he's still young so hopefully he can work on that.

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 2 years ago
InsulinMachine
mjp2
theprof
maynardf
mjp2
I don't want to be too negative but we've got an A league with the top side defending in a 5-3-2 and scoring only from penalties.

Not entirely true of the season, as a whole, but you can see why the League is in trouble.

I'll take it, but I'd like to see us back to where we were during our best spell of the season when we were scoring some great goals.  Though even then most games were tight. 
Chiefy has said we play defensive on the road, and attack at home.
All part of the plan! That said this doesn't feel like a game for the neutral 

I understand that desire for "entertaining" high scoring games to draw in the crowds every week, but that just isnt football. If you're relying on cricket scores to draw in the non-footballing fans you'll lose the purists who love the actual challenge of plating away and coming home with a 1-0 win. Defense wins championships, pure and simple.
I don't need cricket scores.  So you're creating a bit of a straw man there.  
 
But sure.  It is an entertainment game.  If we want to see a thriving league it'll need to be better than this.  In the meantime I'll settle for winning.  

At the moment we're nearly playing an under 15 side and walking it.

The whole "need more goals/entertainment thing to bring in crowds" doesnt work. Remember the 24k that turned up at our first game back home after Covid? We thrashed WU 3 nil scoring some great goals. And how many of those turned up a week later? Just saying 

Well I'd expect the faithful to be defensive.  But if you think this business isn't about entertainment I think you're over doing it a bit.  Lots of reasons why we got 24k one week after two seasons affected by Covid and why they realised a week later there were better things to do.

At least with Old on we're seeing a bit of pace and attacking intent.
about 2 years ago
theprof
Nommag
How greedy is Ben old could have bumped it in to Kostas path ten times over

said it many times, his pace and touch are great, but his option taking is relatively poor. he's still young so hopefully he can work on that.
Kosta was in an offside position for most of that run.
about 2 years ago
Nommag
How greedy is Ben old could have bumped it in to Kostas path ten times over

In fairness I think Old fancies himself against Grimaldi. Done him like dinner just after coming on. Good to see him running at the man, although it probably didn't help having Kosta run into him.
about 2 years ago
Fair play Rufer. Never been a fan but he's smashed it today. 
about 2 years ago
there have been plenty of seasons where entertaining football has been played across the league, yet the so called casual ounter doesnt turn up? noone has figured it out in all honesty, maybe there just isnt the curiosity for the game in Australia/NZ to get the casual punter along? Maybe there never will be, they're alltoo interested in cricket/league/AFL and rugby.

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 2 years ago
ugh, that's a nice little touch from Buhagear to wrong foot Paulsen.

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 2 years ago
Hey Prof, thats why you should try to score more goals when the opportunity is there.
about 2 years ago
Well that was coming. How we just sit back for 70mins and expect that not to happen boggles the mind.
about 2 years ago
We were asking for that. Really not good enough...
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Monto
Hey Prof, thats why you should try to score more goals when the opportunity is there.

you think we haven't been trying to score? we have plenty of chances, just not tested the keeper often enough

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 2 years ago
That is now getting comical!
about 2 years ago
Jesus Christ, we're throwing this away aren't we. Wake the f uck up.
about 2 years ago
C'mon boys get back into the game. We can win this.
about 2 years ago
In van Hattum I believe.
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Rufer's about as annoyed with this poor performance as I am.  Smashed em bro.

That'll be a week without both Payne and Rufer, right?
about 2 years ago
We look quite panicky now. It's the problem with defending deep like we do: no matter how well you defend you can cop a screamer or a lucky deflection, and we are getting plenty of both recently.