I was waiting for the own goal to be ruled out for Zawada being offside lol.
WPM R4 vs Melbourne Victory | Fri 10th Nov | 9:45pm | Sky Sports 7
Thoughts after that game are:
Kelly-Heald should have been subbed much earlier with and able replacement like Sutton on the bench. The play he lost the ball and very early gave away a pen I was 99% sure he was going to commit a rash tackle while trying to recover and get his second red (though I wasn't expecting it to be in the box).
David Ball looked good, Old less so but we looked better for a spell when they both came on. Obviously a balance needs to be struck but we feel far more likely to make things happen going forwards with them on the park rather than players like al-Taay/Rufer/Pennington, certainly against the weaker sides I wouldn't want to see all three of those starting.
And I'm stoked we are still unbeaten and for now top of the league. Looking forward to the Auckland double header
Kelly-Heald should have been subbed much earlier with and able replacement like Sutton on the bench. The play he lost the ball and very early gave away a pen I was 99% sure he was going to commit a rash tackle while trying to recover and get his second red (though I wasn't expecting it to be in the box).
David Ball looked good, Old less so but we looked better for a spell when they both came on. Obviously a balance needs to be struck but we feel far more likely to make things happen going forwards with them on the park rather than players like al-Taay/Rufer/Pennington, certainly against the weaker sides I wouldn't want to see all three of those starting.
And I'm stoked we are still unbeaten and for now top of the league. Looking forward to the Auckland double header
Well obviously I think the opposite. I think that our only danger of scoring was from Pennington. And he has a record of stamina going to 100 minutes.
How much larger is the pitch than Sky Stadium?
Does that affect our game plan much or at all?
Does that affect our game plan much or at all?
Relieved to wake up to that. Had to head to bed at half time, couldn’t believe what I was watching from the officials. Horrendous. I did feel like it was going to end up 3-1 VuC but there we go. This team has some level of resilience and everyone is doing a job. Undefeated after four, you love to see it 😎🟡⚫️
Feeling very happy with that result. The effort, focus and discipline was immense. Specially from the pov of so many calls going against us. I was just waiting for one of our players to get a second yellow. Despite the no shots thing, we always posed a threat. That stat does not tell anywhere near all the story. Well done boys and coach.
Phew, just finished watching the replay. Another great result at a very difficult venue for us to play at!
The first 20 minutes cost us but we got ourselves back into it. Not easy when they seem to have the ref and his VAR mates on their side.
This team is on fire! Really exciting squad with a fresh coach and young talent. Absolutely beyond my expectations so far
The first 20 minutes cost us but we got ourselves back into it. Not easy when they seem to have the ref and his VAR mates on their side.
This team is on fire! Really exciting squad with a fresh coach and young talent. Absolutely beyond my expectations so far
Thoughts after that game are:
Kelly-Heald should have been subbed much earlier with and able replacement like Sutton on the bench. The play he lost the ball and very early gave away a pen I was 99% sure he was going to commit a rash tackle while trying to recover and get his second red (though I wasn't expecting it to be in the box).
David Ball looked good, Old less so but we looked better for a spell when they both came on. Obviously a balance needs to be struck but we feel far more likely to make things happen going forwards with them on the park rather than players like al-Taay/Rufer/Pennington, certainly against the weaker sides I wouldn't want to see all three of those starting.
And I'm stoked we are still unbeaten and for now top of the league. Looking forward to the Auckland double header
Kelly-Heald should have been subbed much earlier with and able replacement like Sutton on the bench. The play he lost the ball and very early gave away a pen I was 99% sure he was going to commit a rash tackle while trying to recover and get his second red (though I wasn't expecting it to be in the box).
David Ball looked good, Old less so but we looked better for a spell when they both came on. Obviously a balance needs to be struck but we feel far more likely to make things happen going forwards with them on the park rather than players like al-Taay/Rufer/Pennington, certainly against the weaker sides I wouldn't want to see all three of those starting.
And I'm stoked we are still unbeaten and for now top of the league. Looking forward to the Auckland double header
I just think that Old is such a good impact player. It wouldn't be the same if he started when the opponents are also fresh. I think that he has about 70 minutes in his legs.
Victory really exposed Kelly Heald, I think that every team will attempt to do the same thing. Every tackle in the box looks like he is going to give away a pen or hand ball. He has been really good the past few matches, but if the other teams have figured him out then Sutton needs to be the left back and Kelly Heald the back up centre back.
Victory really exposed Kelly Heald, I think that every team will attempt to do the same thing. Every tackle in the box looks like he is going to give away a pen or hand ball. He has been really good the past few matches, but if the other teams have figured him out then Sutton needs to be the left back and Kelly Heald the back up centre back.
Maybe but Kelly Heald wins the ball a lot and doesn't get caught out of position. Sutton is more of a winger for me. IMHO.
I have some stats on it. Sutton is the fastest player in the squad. So don't worry, he's not staying on the bench.
Am I going crazy here or am I the only person that's concerned about the no shots business? We cant rely on teams conceding own goals each week. Yes a draw was a nice result but a more clinica team would've scored far more against us, the Victory arent known for that finishing edge atm. There's no chance that we'll place highly in the league if that's going to be the plan against teams that are "better" than us.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
Am I going crazy here or am I the only person that's concerned about the no shots business? We cant rely on teams conceding own goals each week. Yes a draw was a nice result but a more clinica team would've scored far more against us, the Victory arent known for that finishing edge atm. There's no chance that we'll place highly in the league if that's going to be the plan against teams that are "better" than us.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
In a perfect world you'd be totally correct. But Football is about points. We'll keep getting points due to "our resilience " (quote from another poster). We'll be close to the top of the league at the end of the season.
We definitely need to create a lot more chances, but as long as we keep getting points I don’t care too much about how we get them.
I forgot how bad some of the A league refereeing is. Some shocking decisions last night. Massive inconsistencies. (Pennington,s dive......)????
Just as well Ams and Beath have retired.
Just as well Ams and Beath have retired.
Am I going crazy here or am I the only person that's concerned about the no shots business? We cant rely on teams conceding own goals each week. Yes a draw was a nice result but a more clinica team would've scored far more against us, the Victory arent known for that finishing edge atm. There's no chance that we'll place highly in the league if that's going to be the plan against teams that are "better" than us.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
In a perfect world you'd be totally correct. But Football is about points. We'll keep getting points due to "our resilience " (quote from another poster). We'll be close to the top of the league at the end of the season.
There is zero chance we continue to massively outperform xg for the entire season. We're currently sitting at over double actual goals to xg, the won't continue forever. If you want to be near the top you need to perform against the top teams too.
I'm concerned by the no shots but also the stat that they said about us having a lower XG than what we've scored in the season. Feels like if we don't pick up we'll revert to mean and potentially the good run is papering over some deficiencies in our attack.
On the plus side, the good run means we're picking up points while we have time to work on those deficiencies...
On the plus side, the good run means we're picking up points while we have time to work on those deficiencies...
Am I going crazy here or am I the only person that's concerned about the no shots business? We cant rely on teams conceding own goals each week. Yes a draw was a nice result but a more clinica team would've scored far more against us, the Victory arent known for that finishing edge atm. There's no chance that we'll place highly in the league if that's going to be the plan against teams that are "better" than us.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
In a perfect world you'd be totally correct. But Football is about points. We'll keep getting points due to "our resilience " (quote from another poster). We'll be close to the top of the league at the end of the season.
There is zero chance we continue to massively outperform xg for the entire season. We're currently sitting at over double actual goals to xg, the won't continue forever. If you want to be near the top you need to perform against the top teams too.
Bookie favourites 1 month ago were MC
MV
AD
WSW
We've taken a point from 2 of those away from home and actually we were robbed IMHO.
To me neither side ever looked like scoring despite infinite shots and corners. And a corrupt referee.
It'll take a lot of quality to actually beat us.
Am I going crazy here or am I the only person that's concerned about the no shots business? We cant rely on teams conceding own goals each week. Yes a draw was a nice result but a more clinica team would've scored far more against us, the Victory arent known for that finishing edge atm. There's no chance that we'll place highly in the league if that's going to be the plan against teams that are "better" than us.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
In a perfect world you'd be totally correct. But Football is about points. We'll keep getting points due to "our resilience " (quote from another poster). We'll be close to the top of the league at the end of the season.
There is zero chance we continue to massively outperform xg for the entire season. We're currently sitting at over double actual goals to xg, the won't continue forever. If you want to be near the top you need to perform against the top teams too.
Bookie favourites 1 month ago were MC
MV
AD
WSW
We've taken a point from 2 of those away from home and actually we were robbed IMHO.
To me neither side ever looked like scoring despite infinite shots and corners. And a corrupt referee.
It'll take a lot of quality to actually beat us.
I disagree. Victorys biggest problem going foward is that Arzarni is high key kinda shark with decision making, a more intelligent player would've made us pay big time.
We were let off by Vuck ineffectiveness not by incredible defense.
Phew, just finished watching the replay. Another great result at a very difficult venue for us to play at!
The first 20 minutes cost us but we got ourselves back into it. Not easy when they seem to have the ref and his VAR mates on their side.
This team is on fire! Really exciting squad with a fresh coach and young talent. Absolutely beyond my expectations so far
The first 20 minutes cost us but we got ourselves back into it. Not easy when they seem to have the ref and his VAR mates on their side.
This team is on fire! Really exciting squad with a fresh coach and young talent. Absolutely beyond my expectations so far
I hope you were watching it for the first time, because even though I love this team I don't think I could stomach watching a replay of that game ever again. 😆
Am I going crazy here or am I the only person that's concerned about the no shots business? We cant rely on teams conceding own goals each week. Yes a draw was a nice result but a more clinica team would've scored far more against us, the Victory arent known for that finishing edge atm. There's no chance that we'll place highly in the league if that's going to be the plan against teams that are "better" than us.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
In a perfect world you'd be totally correct. But Football is about points. We'll keep getting points due to "our resilience " (quote from another poster). We'll be close to the top of the league at the end of the season.
There is zero chance we continue to massively outperform xg for the entire season. We're currently sitting at over double actual goals to xg, the won't continue forever. If you want to be near the top you need to perform against the top teams too.
Bookie favourites 1 month ago were MC
MV
AD
WSW
We've taken a point from 2 of those away from home and actually we were robbed IMHO.
To me neither side ever looked like scoring despite infinite shots and corners. And a corrupt referee.
It'll take a lot of quality to actually beat us.
I disagree. Victorys biggest problem going foward is that Arzarni is high key kinda shark with decision making, a more intelligent player would've made us pay big time.
We were let off by Vuck ineffectiveness not by incredible defense.
Early in the season chaps. Sure, we're going to have to be better in attack and we were slightly fortunate this game, but I'm confident we will get better.
It seems to me that we have been working on our defensive base and a strong team effort and mentality around that. That's showing on the field, I think. And with a fast transition game from there when we can make that work.
As Chief says in the article, the attack will take a bit longer to develop. Seems like a good plan to me! I'm interested to see how it goes.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/a-league-wellington-phoenix-remain-unbeaten-after-draw-with-melbourne-victory/EQANGSOU55DEVNXZEWKJOB5QB4/
It seems to me that we have been working on our defensive base and a strong team effort and mentality around that. That's showing on the field, I think. And with a fast transition game from there when we can make that work.
As Chief says in the article, the attack will take a bit longer to develop. Seems like a good plan to me! I'm interested to see how it goes.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/a-league-wellington-phoenix-remain-unbeaten-after-draw-with-melbourne-victory/EQANGSOU55DEVNXZEWKJOB5QB4/
Last nights game was boring - hardly one to encourage extra punters to come in. Hopefully they focus on the fact we are unbeaten still more so.
A point is always good, but to have almost parity in possession but no shots is not something to celebrate and it highlights some of our concerns before the seasons start around where are the goals going to come from.
A terrible watch.
A point is always good, but to have almost parity in possession but no shots is not something to celebrate and it highlights some of our concerns before the seasons start around where are the goals going to come from.
A terrible watch.
Last nights game was boring - hardly one to encourage extra punters to come in. Hopefully they focus on the fact we are unbeaten still more so.
A point is always good, but to have almost parity in possession but no shots is not something to celebrate and it highlights some of our concerns before the seasons start around where are the goals going to come from.
A terrible watch.
A point is always good, but to have almost parity in possession but no shots is not something to celebrate and it highlights some of our concerns before the seasons start around where are the goals going to come from.
A terrible watch.
Sure it wasnt the champagne exciting football that we want to see, but you dont wn a league just by playing one style of footy. Sometmes when your back is against the wall you need to go back to basics and steal a point. Even the Man Citys of this game play "boring" footy when the need to grind out a point. It's a valid way of getting points, sure the non-footballing public will think its boring and dull, but that just shows a lack of uncerstaning of the game and how it works. Football isnt a high scoring game. It can be, but high scoring games are the rarity.
Am I going crazy here or am I the only person that's concerned about the no shots business? We cant rely on teams conceding own goals each week. Yes a draw was a nice result but a more clinica team would've scored far more against us, the Victory arent known for that finishing edge atm. There's no chance that we'll place highly in the league if that's going to be the plan against teams that are "better" than us.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
I'm not really sure what our plan is gonna be against teams that don't rush into tackles like Brisbane did, against a team that sits back deep we'll be in trouble.
Some of our passing was shocking as well, constantly giving up cheap possession and putting pressure on the defense.
Yeah I'll take the result but there was very little in that that I would call a good performance.
In a perfect world you'd be totally correct. But Football is about points. We'll keep getting points due to "our resilience " (quote from another poster). We'll be close to the top of the league at the end of the season.
There is zero chance we continue to massively outperform xg for the entire season. We're currently sitting at over double actual goals to xg, the won't continue forever. If you want to be near the top you need to perform against the top teams too.
Well obviously I think the opposite. I think that our only danger of scoring was from Pennington. And he has a record of stamina going to 100 minutes.
Well obviously I think the opposite. I think that our only danger of scoring was from Pennington. And he has a record of stamina going to 100 minutes.
Pennington's yellow was a joke, he was actually caught on the ankle, there was no dive. He was his usual industrious self - nothing too flashy, which after last weeks backheel to noone I'm grateful for. He does a job, and he does it well enough, like everyone I think the Melbourne heat hit him, as there were periods there where he was jogging back into position rather than sprinting,
IMO The corrupt yellow card to Pennington on 7 minutes noticeably changed his game. The main influence he has for us is pressing and winning the ball. He all but stopped.
The referee is the same guy who gave him a red card against Sydney last season.
The referee is the same guy who gave him a red card against Sydney last season.
I missed this game. Well maybe I didn't miss much. No shots,but nearly 500 passes???? Hmmm
I missed this game. Well maybe I didn't miss much. No shots,but nearly 500 passes???? Hmmm
Clearly the plan that Chefy wants to employ is a possesion based attack, let the defense come to us and then attack from the wings, this works really well against a defense that doesnt press high and fast. Victory put our backs and mids under pressure when the had the ball which led to a few mistakes and rushed passes and ultimately attacks been rushed, Kosta was at his best, running at the defence and causing problems, his run and cross led to our goal. I think KP is right though, the early yellows for minor infractions caused a shift in our intensity which made attacking a lot easier for Victory. Them not getting carded for similar "fouls" meant they had a lot more freedom to press high and aggressively. It's always going to be tough at AAMI park especially with a "home" ref like Evans. Can't really complain about the TMO as he ruled in our favour as many times as he didi't.
The Victory basically didn't take our bait in pressing high in numbers as we pass it around the back while we wait for an opening to hit a long ball to Kelly-Heald or Payne. We needed another dimension and we got it at least briefly when Ball & Old came on and were very much capable of receiving the ball in midfield and looking to play vertically.
I'm not that fussed about 1 game with no shots. I think Italiano has correctly identified the team is struggling in the Aussie heat at the moment. I hope they're capable of adapting better as the season goes on.
Kelly-Heald has done well enough but I want to see Sutton start at LB next time. And I'd like to see one of Mo, Rufer & Pennington sacrificed for Ball or Old from the start next time too.
I'm not that fussed about 1 game with no shots. I think Italiano has correctly identified the team is struggling in the Aussie heat at the moment. I hope they're capable of adapting better as the season goes on.
Kelly-Heald has done well enough but I want to see Sutton start at LB next time. And I'd like to see one of Mo, Rufer & Pennington sacrificed for Ball or Old from the start next time too.
I have to admit that I'm a very old man. Approaching 70. I don't understand this Xg stat?
The only thing I understand is that we currently average scoring 2 goals per game. We average conceding 1 goal per game.
We average 2 points per game.
The only thing I understand is that we currently average scoring 2 goals per game. We average conceding 1 goal per game.
We average 2 points per game.
I have to admit that I'm a very old man. Approaching 70. I don't understand this Xg stat?
The only thing I understand is that we currently average scoring 2 goals per game. We average conceding 1 goal per game.
We average 2 points per game.
The only thing I understand is that we currently average scoring 2 goals per game. We average conceding 1 goal per game.
We average 2 points per game.
If you're interested in it at all this article goes a pretty good job of explaining https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/expected-goals-xg-explained/
It's usually a pretty good way of working put who's over performing and who's under performed, and as it stands we're over performing. It's highly unlikely that we would maintain this over the course of a season and would instead return to our expected goals. Now this isn't to say that we can't outdo our xg over a season it's just highly unlikely.
Likewise I believe that we are defensively over performing at the moment and we may run into the same problem in the future.
If you look at all the top teams of world football they all end up having xg stats that are very high and line up fairly accurately with what they actually produce.
Again, this isn't to say that we can't over perform but it's simply statistically unlikely.
I have to admit that I'm a very old man. Approaching 70. I don't understand this Xg stat?
The only thing I understand is that we currently average scoring 2 goals per game. We average conceding 1 goal per game.
We average 2 points per game.
The only thing I understand is that we currently average scoring 2 goals per game. We average conceding 1 goal per game.
We average 2 points per game.
If you're interested in it at all this article goes a pretty good job of explaining https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/expected-goals-xg-explained/
It's usually a pretty good way of working put who's over performing and who's under performed, and as it stands we're over performing. It's highly unlikely that we would maintain this over the course of a season and would instead return to our expected goals. Now this isn't to say that we can't outdo our xg over a season it's just highly unlikely.
Likewise I believe that we are defensively over performing at the moment and we may run into the same problem in the future.
If you look at all the top teams of world football they all end up having xg stats that are very high and line up fairly accurately with what they actually produce.
Again, this isn't to say that we can't over perform but it's simply statistically unlikely.
I have to admit that I'm a very old man. Approaching 70. I don't understand this Xg stat?
The only thing I understand is that we currently average scoring 2 goals per game. We average conceding 1 goal per game.
We average 2 points per game.
The only thing I understand is that we currently average scoring 2 goals per game. We average conceding 1 goal per game.
We average 2 points per game.
If you're interested in it at all this article goes a pretty good job of explaining https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/expected-goals-xg-explained/
It's usually a pretty good way of working put who's over performing and who's under performed, and as it stands we're over performing. It's highly unlikely that we would maintain this over the course of a season and would instead return to our expected goals. Now this isn't to say that we can't outdo our xg over a season it's just highly unlikely.
Likewise I believe that we are defensively over performing at the moment and we may run into the same problem in the future.
If you look at all the top teams of world football they all end up having xg stats that are very high and line up fairly accurately with what they actually produce.
Again, this isn't to say that we can't over perform but it's simply statistically unlikely.
I am interested. I will read it and see if I can be sold on it. I get all the Wyscout stats every week. They include Xg which of course I generally disregard.
I have read that explanation now. I'll follow Xg from now on with teams and individuals. See what it gives me in terms of understanding...
Thanks
Thanks
It’s never nice to have your team not have a single shot, but I’m not going to sound any alarm bells until it happens more than once.
Every team has a few ‘bad games’ in them, especially early in the season. Considering how poor we normally are early on, I’m quite happy with our unbeaten run so far
Having said all that, it’ll be very interesting to see how we respond against City next weekend
Every team has a few ‘bad games’ in them, especially early in the season. Considering how poor we normally are early on, I’m quite happy with our unbeaten run so far
Having said all that, it’ll be very interesting to see how we respond against City next weekend
xg isn't static. If our attack improves we'll increase our xg
We only go into a slump if we revert to xg and we haven't improved it.
Early days. Very happy to be pinching points off Aussie sides away. I thought it was a gripping, entertaining game. OK, if you want to watch champagne football all the time, you might be disappointed. But there was actually some good stuff from both sides.
But if you're happy to see your team grind out a result in early season, with a new coach and playing style, against a current top side, and away in 28 degrees heat, it's brilliant. Hanging on for that point and stopping Victory getting 2 more was enthralling and delightful for me.
Half the headlines, which is what the bandwagonners are going to go on, are saying the Phoenix remain unbeaten. Others include "drama" and "controversial".
Muhammed Ali talked to the wrestler 'Gorgeous George' about how he was getting big crowds to his pro wrestling events. It was about being outspoken, outrageous and controversial. Ali adopted the approach. If you're outrageous, half the crowd will want to see you win, the other half will want to see you lose, Gorgeous George said.
The 'Nix have done something outrageous. They' ve got a result on a 0 xg against one of the top sides away. Outrageous. It' s terrific press. Kiwis love a side that pisses off the Aussies. COYN.
We'll all see it differently, but I think it's great. And that we'll likely get better. 🤞And if we keep doing this our home crowds will grow. Best season start for ages.
We only go into a slump if we revert to xg and we haven't improved it.
Early days. Very happy to be pinching points off Aussie sides away. I thought it was a gripping, entertaining game. OK, if you want to watch champagne football all the time, you might be disappointed. But there was actually some good stuff from both sides.
But if you're happy to see your team grind out a result in early season, with a new coach and playing style, against a current top side, and away in 28 degrees heat, it's brilliant. Hanging on for that point and stopping Victory getting 2 more was enthralling and delightful for me.
Half the headlines, which is what the bandwagonners are going to go on, are saying the Phoenix remain unbeaten. Others include "drama" and "controversial".
Muhammed Ali talked to the wrestler 'Gorgeous George' about how he was getting big crowds to his pro wrestling events. It was about being outspoken, outrageous and controversial. Ali adopted the approach. If you're outrageous, half the crowd will want to see you win, the other half will want to see you lose, Gorgeous George said.
The 'Nix have done something outrageous. They' ve got a result on a 0 xg against one of the top sides away. Outrageous. It' s terrific press. Kiwis love a side that pisses off the Aussies. COYN.
We'll all see it differently, but I think it's great. And that we'll likely get better. 🤞And if we keep doing this our home crowds will grow. Best season start for ages.
Last nights game was boring - hardly one to encourage extra punters to come in. Hopefully they focus on the fact we are unbeaten still more so.
A point is always good, but to have almost parity in possession but no shots is not something to celebrate and it highlights some of our concerns before the seasons start around where are the goals going to come from.
A terrible watch.
A point is always good, but to have almost parity in possession but no shots is not something to celebrate and it highlights some of our concerns before the seasons start around where are the goals going to come from.
A terrible watch.
Most people will have watched the game in Welly and then the highlights of the really late game.
A smashing win and a hard earned draw. Unbeaten!
Great considering our record in Melbourne.
I’ve complained about the way highlights tell a story before.
For example we’d say again that Tim Payne’s defense, tackles and blocks were a big part of our game. They don’t feature in the highlights.
The highlights mostly just show the Victory’s shots, but not how our defense frustrated them time and again and rushed their shooting because they knew defense was incoming.
I guess maybe there are some free online stats to play the game they were playing with the zero shots thing.
I like to look at it as we don’t create shots, we create goals. We try and make it a tap in on transition or an attacker v keeper. Or Zawada from wherever he wants. But we don’t do a lot of blasting from the edge of the box through traffic.
And Zawada’s quality may help us edge some XG in that he scores difficult goals more often than the average striker. Or Kraev for that matter. And Payne’s weak foot hammer strike is still echoing…
For example we’d say again that Tim Payne’s defense, tackles and blocks were a big part of our game. They don’t feature in the highlights.
The highlights mostly just show the Victory’s shots, but not how our defense frustrated them time and again and rushed their shooting because they knew defense was incoming.
I guess maybe there are some free online stats to play the game they were playing with the zero shots thing.
I like to look at it as we don’t create shots, we create goals. We try and make it a tap in on transition or an attacker v keeper. Or Zawada from wherever he wants. But we don’t do a lot of blasting from the edge of the box through traffic.
And Zawada’s quality may help us edge some XG in that he scores difficult goals more often than the average striker. Or Kraev for that matter. And Payne’s weak foot hammer strike is still echoing…
Stats meh….. as the great Chris Berman used to say “that’s why they play the games”.