Wellington Phoenix Men

WPM R6 vs CCM | Tue 5th April | 9:05pm | SS7

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almost 4 years ago
martinb
This officiating is beginning to piss me off.
 Given where the ref was standing, I don't know how he thought ball committed a high foot foul there. Straight on ball was clearly on the ball first and there was a bit of space between him and defender
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almost 4 years ago · edited almost 4 years ago · History
Ryan
Nommag
That chance came from a very simple Pennington turn over. There is very little quality in our side atm. Fortunately, it means I can both go to bed early and save money on tickets and fuel and avoid the Auckland game I was thinking of travelling to.
Fair weather fan then? Now is the time to support the team, not abandon them.

Pretty much this... If this was our number 1 line up and the owners wouldn't spend more than this lot, sure. But this is is 4th game in 11 days or something like that, several players out to injuries including most of the midfield and strikers, multiple people out with Covid... It's hardly surprising if we lose.

(edit - not saying you are a fairweather fan, based on your other comments you are not - just that now is a time the team needs support)
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almost 4 years ago
Nothing wrong with the ref so far... problem is with us.
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almost 4 years ago
MetalLegNZ
fudge we are poor


you do know how to turn the telly and PC off right?

Queenslander 3x a year.

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almost 4 years ago
MetalLegNZ
Nothing wrong with the ref so far... problem is with us.

No? He’s not operating with the same standard. He’s warned Louis Fenton- although the only proper foul was against him as he was away up the left. 
We haven’t been great, but the high boot and two or three soft fouls haven’t helped us for sure.


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almost 4 years ago
Good goal. Lucky but still. 
Unlike us who seem completely out of luck
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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almost 4 years ago
It’s hard when we don’t even look like we want to play… Mariners are fired up.


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almost 4 years ago
That was a good goal on second look. Nix body language has been bad from the kickoff. Lots of slumped shoulders and head shaking going on.
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almost 4 years ago
kwlap
Good goal. Lucky but still. 
Unlike us who seem completely out of luck


You make your luck though don’t you?


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almost 4 years ago
Pathetic from the corner 

Founder

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almost 4 years ago
siac
Ryan
Nommag
That chance came from a very simple Pennington turn over. There is very little quality in our side atm. Fortunately, it means I can both go to bed early and save money on tickets and fuel and avoid the Auckland game I was thinking of travelling to.
Fair weather fan then? Now is the time to support the team, not abandon them.

Pretty much this... If this was our number 1 line up and the owners wouldn't spend more than this lot, sure. But this is is 4th game in 11 days or something like that, several players out to injuries including most of the midfield and strikers, multiple people out with Covid... It's hardly surprising if we lose.

(edit - not saying you are a fairweather fan, based on your other comments you are not - just that now is a time the team needs support)
 The issue is the club needs the fairweather fans to go. The diehards are a drop in the bucket, history has proven the diehards don't cover the costs. If I'm hesitant to drive to Auckland to watch this game than I'd imagine the fairweather fans in Auckland will be giving this a wide berth. I feel sorry for the owners and the club and I really think that even the players on the pitch should be playing better than they are. That is the bit that gets me. 
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almost 4 years ago
wonder why morale might be a bit low for the nix lads at the moment?
not playing in front of your home crowd might have something to do with that, maybe?

Queenslander 3x a year.

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almost 4 years ago
Weird vibe in here tonight from posters. It’s been a tough couple of games (and seasons) but I don’t see how it makes it any easier if we pile on each other in here. 
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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almost 4 years ago
Been here since day 1 and watch every game.
Doesn't change the fact we are bloody poor right now.
Wish we weren't but we are pants currently.
theprof
MetalLegNZ
fudge we are poor


you do know how to turn the telly and PC off right?
 
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almost 4 years ago
theprof
MetalLegNZ
fudge we are poor


you do know how to turn the telly and PC off right?
 Do you deny it?
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almost 4 years ago · edited almost 4 years ago · History
think we are all tired of not having the team here to support, I for one am tired of the unfair negativity by some. Yes the team is struggling right now, there is a myriad of reasons why, some of them performance related and should be fixed, others have been well outside of the cubs and players hands.

if it was as easy as just "playing better" then I'm sure we'd have done that and be winning the league.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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almost 4 years ago
Monto
theprof
MetalLegNZ
fudge we are poor


you do know how to turn the telly and PC off right?
 Do you deny it?
tell ya what, when you've been here for 15 years you'll know when you've seen poor. A couple of poor performances does not make the team crap, or poor.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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almost 4 years ago
Guess the fans are feeling the long seasons away too. 

That and a good win run screwed over and having to listen to the contrast in sympathy, especially compared to Perth.

We went into our home games last year guns blazing. This is lame.




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almost 4 years ago
Think we’re missing the two left footed players in Laws and McGarry/Sutton on our left side. It’s slowing our distribution and changing our angles.


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almost 4 years ago
One of the real kickers is our massive attacking import has played fudge all.

Our massive defensive import bounces from the club super close to the start of the season.

Ball fights like he is carrying all the imports on his shoulder but fark it just sucks sometimes.
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almost 4 years ago · edited almost 4 years ago · History
Card? Should have been a card. The guy went through his back in the air. That’s dangerous play. 


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almost 4 years ago
theprof
Monto
theprof
MetalLegNZ
fudge we are poor


you do know how to turn the telly and PC off right?
 Do you deny it?
tell ya what, when you've been here for 15 years you'll know when you've seen poor. A couple of poor performances does not make the team crap, or poor.


Only 9 years here and i have seen some really poor too.
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almost 4 years ago
Bananas
theprof
Monto
theprof
MetalLegNZ
fudge we are poor


you do know how to turn the telly and PC off right?
 Do you deny it?
tell ya what, when you've been here for 15 years you'll know when you've seen poor. A couple of poor performances does not make the team crap, or poor.


Only 9 years here and i have seen some really poor too.
 it annoys me ALOT when those that appear to be new to the nix complain about the team being poor, when all they've really got to go on is the current and maybe last season. That data set is so much better than we have been in past years.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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almost 4 years ago
Think most on here are long suffering!
Hoping this game is going to be a reverse of the last game and we win the second half 5-0…


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almost 4 years ago
Nommag
Ryan
Nommag
That chance came from a very simple Pennington turn over. There is very little quality in our side atm. Fortunately, it means I can both go to bed early and save money on tickets and fuel and avoid the Auckland game I was thinking of travelling to.
Fair weather fan then? Now is the time to support the team, not abandon them.
 I'm fine to watch the nix even in a bad season. I've travelled to plenty of games and watched bad nix sides. But at the end of the day the phoenix are an entertainment product, the current team with all of the injuries is not a great product. I'll decide in the week prior depending on if the team has some players back. It would be a different story if I lived in one of the cities that was hosting a game, but I won't pay to travel 2 hours each way, parking etc to watch the team that is on the pitch today. I don't think that is unreasonable.
No need to announce it to the world then.
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almost 4 years ago
martinb
Think most on here are long suffering!
Hoping this game is going to be a reverse of the last game and we win the second half 5-0…
Yeah, remember the bad old Ricki days (he had lots of good ones too, I'm not knocking him) when we were so poor there was genuine concern that we were going to get thrown out of the league. Nearly were too.

This is disappointing but nothing like as horrible as its been in the past.
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almost 4 years ago
theprof
Monto
theprof
MetalLegNZ
fudge we are poor


you do know how to turn the telly and PC off right?
 Do you deny it?
tell ya what, when you've been here for 15 years you'll know when you've seen poor. A couple of poor performances does not make the team crap, or poor.
Been a phoenix supporter since day one and held a membership as long as I have worked. You don't hold the monopoly on being a supporter like you seem to think.

They're playing very poor relative to everything else under Talay. That's not an unfair criticism.
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almost 4 years ago · edited almost 4 years ago · History
martinb
Think most on here are long suffering!
Hoping this game is going to be a reverse of the last game and we win the second half 5-0…
This team has played 4 games in 11 days with very little rotation and they have another game in 4 days. They're done, I can't see them winning games until they get a break.

Hopefully I'm wrong.
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almost 4 years ago
Sotirio and Reno have had a break…As has Elliot. 

Look don’t interrupt me when I’m clutching at straws man!


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almost 4 years ago
Ryan
martinb
Think most on here are long suffering!
Hoping this game is going to be a reverse of the last game and we win the second half 5-0…
This team has played 4 games in 11 days with very little rotation and they have another game in 4 days. They're done, I can't see them winning games until they get a break.

Hopefully I'm wrong.
 Think you're bang on the money there. The performances won't improve until the players get a break, this is simply too much football for them with no rotation. Really hope they can turn it around.
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almost 4 years ago
Even Uffie looks and sounds a bit subdued tonight. Hopefully he can rouse the boys in the sheds. Need a big lift second half and a bit of magic from Piscopo and Sotirio if we can manage to stay in the game until they come on.
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almost 4 years ago · edited almost 4 years ago · History
Ryan
martinb
Think most on here are long suffering!
Hoping this game is going to be a reverse of the last game and we win the second half 5-0…
This team has played 4 games in 11 days with very little rotation and they have another game in 4 days. They're done, I can't see them winning games until they get a break.

Hopefully I'm wrong.
Yeah we've got the rough end of the stick on so many things with COVID disruptions. Probably the toughest times the team has had to deal with in the Phoenix's entire history when you think about it. Basically 2 years away from home now. Big respect to the Phoenix owners and management for keeping the wheels turning even though the road seems permanently uphill. 
 
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almost 4 years ago
Been here as long as anyone... my profile only says 9 years because I had to get a new one (didn't work when I was overseas).

This is as bad as I remember it, mainly because I don't see the tide turning anytime soon. No Rufer, No Lewis, No Hooper and no chance to bring in any much needed quality.

Look at our bench, it's a bunch of kids and a semi fit Piscopo who has been underwhelming this season. Who in our starting line up would start for the Mariners currently... Sail, Payne and Wooton... maybe Sandoval. And we are talking CCM here, not Sydney or one of the Melbourne Teams.

I'm negative, because I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed because I am passionate.



theprof
Monto
theprof
MetalLegNZ
fudge we are poor


you do know how to turn the telly and PC off right?
 Do you deny it?
tell ya what, when you've been here for 15 years you'll know when you've seen poor. A couple of poor performances does not make the team crap, or poor.
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almost 4 years ago · edited almost 4 years ago · History
Good to see the fans feeling it. We're all looking for better. But It's been a lot worse. We've played this bad AND been likely to loose our spot in the League with half of Aus keen to be rid of us. We've played like this AND been late paying players. And potentially folding w/o an owner able to fund the side. 

These guys are doing it hard. Fatigued, illness, over hectic schedule, missing starters. Permanently away from home. 

Dissapointing as it is, cut them a bit of slack. 
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MetalLegNZ
Been here as long as anyone... my profile only says 9 years because I had to get a new one (didn't work when I was overseas).

This is as bad as I remember it, mainly because I don't see the tide turning anytime soon. No Rufer, No Lewis, No Hooper and no chance to bring in any much needed quality.

Look at our bench, it's a bunch of kids and a semi fit Piscopo who has been underwhelming this season. Who in our starting line up would start for the Mariners currently... Sail, Payne and Wooton... maybe Sandoval. And we are talking CCM here, not Sydney or one of the Melbourne Teams.

I'm negative, because I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed because I am passionate.



theprof
Monto
theprof
MetalLegNZ
fudge we are poor


you do know how to turn the telly and PC off right?
 Do you deny it?
tell ya what, when you've been here for 15 years you'll know when you've seen poor. A couple of poor performances does not make the team crap, or poor.
2015 - 2018 were worse, the team wasn't winning and it didn't seem like it had a future. The problems this team faces are completely out of their control, the team itself is competitive and the club has the foundations for success.
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almost 4 years ago
Thought Elliot has made some good forward runs. I'd prefer to see Sutton back at LB. Old has had a run of starts, he really needs to be doing better if he wants to continue at this level. 
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almost 4 years ago
No team would be expected to get results in our situation, for reasons that have already been mentioned. It was always going to be another tough season away from home. And yet, credit to the club and team, we're still higher up the table than some other teams
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almost 4 years ago
That's the second time Wooton and Sail have got their communication all wrong. Both times should've been easy pickups by Sail but smashed away by Wooton into touch instead.
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almost 4 years ago
yeah we have been much worse than we are now and with less reasons.
Those suggesting some rest and rotation to the starters - I ask you with who?
We literally had to fly two academy guys in over the weekend so we could have a full bench. Due to COVID and injuries we are at bare bones levels, and we are at the point of having to play stupid amounts of games in a matter of weeks. It couldnt be a worse situation for the team.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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