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I really hate when people conflate signings with announcements

Doloras

So... we have fixtures for the Nix Women, the squad leaves town in just over a month, but we don't have any players announced yet?

In the Senz interview Domey did two weeks ago. He said the coaching staff and squad announcements would be made in the next couple of weeks when the start date for the comp was confirmed. Now the start date is confirmed I guess we are one step closer to other announcements.
Another interesting comment in that interview for me was Dome saying the 7 Australian player rule was only in place for the next two seasons and that after the 2023 world cup, that would change and likely be same as A league rules over eligibility. 

Will be interesting if Longo is in the playing roster given her nzf role 

Feverish

Will be interesting if Longo is in the playing roster given her nzf role 

Generally not much womens football being played in NZ summer when the W league will be played. But being based in Aus is not ideal for the NZ Womens football development officer.

Nelfoos

I really hate when people conflate signings with announcements

In this case, however, at least as of lunchtime on Thursday September 23, I'm fairly certain there are no unannounced signings either.

What he means is he really hates me

Doloras

What he means is he really hates me

Don't flatter yourself, I don't even know you

Doloras

So... we have fixtures for the Nix Women, the squad leaves town in just over a month, but we don't have any players announced yet?

 Sounds like they are going to announce a large portion of the squad as well as the coach all at once. 

It's gonna be a special announcement. COYN.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/women-in-sport/126551658/wellington-phoenix-to-make-womens-team-announcements-squad-rules-confirmed

FYI - by my math the current 17 man A League Mens squad has 11 Kiwis.

But Womens A League with 10 teams (as opposed to 12 in the means comp), probably currently has more Kiwis (7) at other clubs than the Mens League.

Anyway semantics, and number of Kiwis is likely to be pretty similar over both comps. Though really there should be less in the Womens with a max 18 player squad, and 2 less teams.

The week slowly slides by, And the silence continues with no announcements around the Nix ALW team. Can I take from this that all is not well between NZF and the Nix on coming to agreements on setup. Or are they finding it more difficult to tie down coaching and player contracts than what they expected. Or maybe they are putting there time into preparing for a big announcement with much fanfare and a big sponsor reveal for the team.

Ranix

The week slowly slides by, And the silence continues with no announcements around the Nix ALW team. Can I take from this that all is not well between NZF and the Nix on coming to agreements on setup. Or are they finding it more difficult to tie down coaching and player contracts than what they expected. Or maybe they are putting there time into preparing for a big announcement with much fanfare and a big sponsor reveal for the team.

 Or maybe they planned it for Friday?

I agree, Friday seems to be the day for announcements…

Ranix

The week slowly slides by, And the silence continues with no announcements around the Nix ALW team. Can I take from this that all is not well between NZF and the Nix on coming to agreements on setup. Or are they finding it more difficult to tie down coaching and player contracts than what they expected. Or maybe they are putting there time into preparing for a big announcement with much fanfare and a big sponsor reveal for the team.

Hopefully, tomorrow...

Oi Oi Edgecumbe

Ranix

The week slowly slides by, And the silence continues with no announcements around the Nix ALW team. Can I take from this that all is not well between NZF and the Nix on coming to agreements on setup. Or are they finding it more difficult to tie down coaching and player contracts than what they expected. Or maybe they are putting there time into preparing for a big announcement with much fanfare and a big sponsor reveal for the team.

Hopefully, tomorrow...

Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow,
creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
to the last syllable of recorded time..
Could be describing lockdown!

They've said things are tough and they're struggling with MIQ for both teams including hinting that they can't bring over their preferred coach for the W-League.

They probably just don't have anything to announce yet and I'm sure they're more frustrated about that than we are.

To be honest, with the issues we're facing and the limited build up, I'll be satisfied if we're last but competitive and have a solid foundation to build upon for next season.

NSW talking opening up there borders next month. Not sure what that means for MIQ into Sydney for fully vaccinated non Australians. Ferns also have games at end of the month in Canada. ALW doesn't start till December. Are there maybe a few players like Longo and Stratford they trying to to get to Canada then into Aus? Who knows? So difficult to make plans with certainty in this current environment
 

Ranix

NSW talking opening up there borders next month. Not sure what that means for MIQ into Sydney for fully vaccinated non Australians. Ferns also have games at end of the month in Canada. ALW doesn't start till December. Are there maybe a few players like Longo and Stratford they trying to to get to Canada then into Aus? Who knows? So difficult to make plans with certainty in this current environment
 

Pre Xmas very low chance of non Australians entering Oz, and avoiding 2 weeks MIQ. Travellers from NZ likely the exception. You would hope 2 Nix teams entering NSW would have some type of soft quarantine/bio security bubble arrangement, allowing them to train upon arrival.

QLD are just trialling home quarantine for interstate travellers (you still to apply for an exemption to enter QLD from VIC & NSW), and will be months before that's rolled out for overseas arrivals. Though NZ-Aus will loosen up sooner, ie TT bubble reopened.

Ferns in Canada will be sans any ALW players.

Ranix

NSW talking opening up there borders next month. Not sure what that means for MIQ into Sydney for fully vaccinated non Australians. Ferns also have games at end of the month in Canada. ALW doesn't start till December. Are there maybe a few players like Longo and Stratford they trying to to get to Canada then into Aus? Who knows? So difficult to make plans with certainty in this current environment
 

 No NZ based players going to Canada. Longo and Stratford aren’t fully fit yet either are they?

Friday afternoon Bump.

The week slowly slides by, And the silence continues with no announcements around the Nix ALW team. Can I take from this that all is not well between NZF and the Nix on coming to agreements on setup. Or are they finding it more difficult to tie down coaching and player contracts than what they expected. Or maybe they are putting there time into preparing for a big announcement with much fanfare and a big sponsor reveal for the team.

I reckon Monday

Oi Oi Edgecumbe

I reckon Monday

Latest 😬

https://www.facebook.com/WellingtonPhoenixFC

Logan Smith

The Wellington Phoenix are set to make their first announcements about their inaugural A-League Women campaign next week.

NZ Football chief executive Andrew Pragnell said this week a final agreement was in place and Phoenix general manager David Dome said on Friday: “In the next seven days, we’ll be making some announcements”. It is likely they will begin by naming the team’s coach.

Expect some news this afternoon I'm told.

The Wellington Phoenix and New Zealand Football (NZF) are excited to announce the inaugural coaching staff for the Club’s first ever A-League Women’s team.

In consultation with NZF, Gemma Lewis has been chosen as the Wellington Phoenix A-League Women’s Head Coach, with Natalie Lawrence serving as Assistant Coach for the 21/22 Season.

Lewis and Lawrence will join Canberra United as the only all-female coaching staff in the A-League Women’s competition, with Lewis being the fourth female Head Coach named in the 10-Club league - the first time in A-League Women’s history that the competition has boasted that number.

https://www.nzfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/108816?newsfeedId=1230159

lets hope they get a decent enough squad together to be competitive!

theprof

lets hope they get a decent enough squad together to be competitive!

Going to be a learning year I think. This from the stuff article. Lets hope they can pull some surprises.

“No doubt it’s going to be a huge learning season for us and the squad given the players we are looking at, but it’s also a chance for coach and players to show the rest of Australasia what they can do.

Ranix

theprof

lets hope they get a decent enough squad together to be competitive!

Going to be a learning year I think. This from the stuff article. Lets hope they can pull some surprises.

“No doubt it’s going to be a huge learning season for us and the squad given the players we are looking at, but it’s also a chance for coach and players to show the rest of Australasia what they can do.

Still, any coach worth their salt is going to be targeting mid table as a mark of success, even with the short time frame and lack of prep time. You'd expect there will be some early learnings, but you have to be looking to not be the worst team around.

Mods... you think it might be a good idea to open its own group for the womens team? much like the Mens team. As we get going, I can see there being multiple subjects relating to the team and the league itself. 

Geez, after reading the article, I'm very surprised that they aren't alot further down the track with there organisation than they are now about 1 month after officially announcing a team to enter the league.
Sounds like they are still a way off finalising nz squad members and are only just applying for exemptions for players and coaches (including Lewis I presume) to leave Auckland. Tough times to be doing all this I guess.
That being said it is pretty exciting seeing this come together, and even with a young NZ (mostly) team,  It will be really good to see them test themselves in Aus. I do hope they recruit some experienced heads in the team to give some leadership, and lay some foundations for the future.

Edit. Stuff article has been updated. things sound a bit more promising with player recruitment. Here is some more insight from Lewis about proposed playing style.
https://thewomensgame.com/news/pretty-amazing-phoenix-announce-first-a-league-womens-coach-571042

Ranix

Geez, after reading the article, I'm very surprised that they aren't alot further down the track with there organisation than they are now about 1 month after officially announcing a team to enter the league.
Sounds like they are still a way off finalising nz squad members and are only just applying for exemptions for players and coaches (including Lewis I presume) to leave Auckland. Tough times to be doing all this I guess.
That being said it is pretty exciting seeing this come together, and even with a young NZ (mostly) team,  It will be really good to see them test themselves in Aus. I do hope they recruit some experienced heads in the team to give some leadership, and lay some foundations for the future.

Edit. Stuff article has been updated. things sound a bit more promising with player recruitment. Here is some more insight from Lewis about proposed playing style.
https://thewomensgame.com/news/pretty-amazing-phoenix-announce-first-a-league-womens-coach-571042

 Must have at least 7 Aussies aye? Think I said so earlier but in some ways a relief as it prevents the club from lining up a squad of 18 untested young Kiwis...

Napier Phoenix

Mods... you think it might be a good idea to open its own group for the womens team? much like the Mens team. As we get going, I can see there being multiple subjects relating to the team and the league itself. 

Done!

coochiee

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/women-in-sport/126808483/wellington-phoenix-disappointed-by-lack-of-commercial-support-for-womens-team

Maybe they should look to Australia for sponsors and commercial partners. 

Royz

coochiee

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/women-in-sport/126808483/wellington-phoenix-disappointed-by-lack-of-commercial-support-for-womens-team

Maybe they should look to Australia for sponsors and commercial partners. 

Agree or brand owners in both countries like ANZ , Bunnings, JB etc

Dome said that all the banks had been approached already, most of the big businesses in NZ have some Australian ownership/links -and I doubt Welnix would have ignored any business' when looking for sponsorship.

The HeNix & the SheNix fly out Monday I believe. Good luck to them all.