Mark Judan: Family Time

The other 5 teams above don't have the threat of expulsion hanging over them, post next season. I imagine they don't have as many players on only 1 year deals, and certainly offer a more secure future at the moment. 

Plus the main players rumoured to be leaving are Williams, Burgess & Kurto. Rudan brought them all to the Nix. And none of them are likely to have come to Wellington, if it weren't for him.

Very different story if he takes someone like Krishna to WU. That's 'poaching'. To a lesser extent the same re Dura, who ominously hasn't now ruled out returning to Australia to play another season.

Have to place some trust in the new coach - Vidmar, Talay or whoever it is - undertaking pretty sound recruitment like Rudan managed. If appointed soon, they will certainly have more time than Rudan had, to get it right.

I never said 6.

I would say that if Rudan was to not work anywhere next year, there's a likelihood of some of our players ending up at WU still. If Rudan is at WU, it's likely even more will. 

Difference between us and other top 6 teams is they don't have so many important players sitting with no contracts still and they have a license to be in the league beyond next year. This whole FFA debacle has made us ripe to have our best players picked off. 

you can blame the FFA until the cows come home for leaving us ripe to be ripped off

But if you leave the house unlocked

It still takes some thief to come in and to rip you off.

RUDAN OUT

woops did I hear he has already gone months ago?

And that's the end

When your ex moves on quicker than you do. 

Whodan.

Autocorrect FTW.

Sad we will no longer see Rudan Stalking the sidelines.

I wonder if Ufuk wears a black shirt as well.

Potentially. Another thing we will miss is the video analytics from what I understand that was one of Rudan's specialties.

Hopefully Ufuk will prove himself at this level as well

Didn't he have external help with that?

I think anyone reviewing that much footage would need help collecting, reviewing, storing etc.

Id imaging there are some USB drives full of indepth stuff out there

I thought we have a video analyst on our payroll or did I imagine that?

I think you are right, possibly Mr Haworth who is playing for Mirimar this season.

There was a Video analyst guy last year (Carl Edwards) who had done work with Auckland City and a few other things in Auckland. He went back up there not long after the season started.

Carl now at Houston Dynamo

Have no idea what this all means, but stay tuned...

"Already the Phoenix have lost their manager Mark Rudan, and there will be more to come out about that messy departure in the coming months. Rudan brought charisma, although he wasn't quite so clean-shaven, quite so saturnine and Mourinho-esque when it wasn't match day.

It's been a hard road for the Aussie and towards the end it was getting harder. When finals football came Rudan lost his faith in talent and surprised many by leaving out Sarpreet Singh with whom his relationship had deteriorated."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/112513815/ma...

To be fair, that article is factually inaccurate on so many different things that it's hard to take anything from it seriously. 

Its a Mark Reason article, why would you even bother opening it?

I find Reason's work borderline readable sometimes, the logic jumps that he makes are often pretty hard to fathom.

I read it and it is just all shallow and all over the place like madwoman's custard. Krishna "not meeting marquee criteria"? Rudan having a fallout with Singh, an 18 year old boy??  Talays young Olyroos losing 3-2 to Uzbekistan meaning he's a bad coach???

Sounds like someone is desperate to be negative about the nix. Amazing how many imbeciles there are in this country. Especially given its the one pro club. 

He's desperate to be negative about anything. Its his schtick. Says a lot about the state of sports journalism

Haven't reliable journos stated that Singh was having a few attitude problems?

I know that Anfony Hudson is a conman, but I think he had a point about talented young Kiwi footballers not seeing the point of pushing themselves once they'd reached a certain level.

Interesting he lobs a few hand grenades about Rudan but doesn't write anything to expand on, or substantiate, what he's written. It might all turn out to be true but I take everything he writes with a massive pinch or salt.

You are right and that is my point too - he just writes in vignettes, but strong claims require strong background / depth in the story rather than putting it all down as a fact.

Can we now close this thread and have all Rudan conversations in “where are they now?”. Nix only here.....

I haven't read the article and I suspect Singh is not, but you are naive if you don't think there are some wanker 18 year old males out there. Isn't he  a couple of years older then 18 anyway?

except everyone at the club always talks about how Singh is a super level headed and down to earth kid, don't they. Reason opinion pieces are always sharkhouse anyway

He was dropped at the start of the season... 

No way is Cacace the quickest in the squad. The whole things reads like pure speculation 

Just another click bait piece from someone who thinks he is an expert on everything but really shows a complete lack of understanding of most things.Really dont no why people bother reading his rubbish.

The article  reminded me of that silly fool, Murray Deaker when he used to make his "anti"  comments on Football

This is literally the Mark Rudan thread. 

Yeah we need this thread for all future achievements on and off the field.

Once he's announced elsewhere we can move it to general A-League.

Well he's definitely not going to hang around to go to SWS - they've announced their coach. 

Perhaps Rudan will become an Assistant Coach at SFC...

Not as crazy as it sounds to be fair. I know he has proven himself as a head coach this year but if he means what he says about family being the driving factor then doing the assistant gig at Sydney for a year wouldn't be so bad. I almost hope this is what happens to be honest

in some ways, but I don't think he could be an assistant tbh. He's a head coach now- the Don, not the consigliere.

I think that's the only situation I'd accept for next season. Other than staying away from any HAL club!