WPM 2022/23 Squad Speculation, Confirmation and Mutual Termination

Rock Hopper

I'm in the bolster the defence camp and think Niko Boxall would be the path of least resistance. Although if the door is open for another attacker now that Waine has left surely Losagga's time is now.

I'm sure you jest but the squad already has 5 visa players. Maybe a month ago, Sasse could have been let go early, but that ain't happening now.

Within the club there seems promotion options in the front 3rd - Karunaratne, Bidois. More minutes OVH. Jackson Manuel got 5 games (1 start) last season.

But in defence last game against Perth there was no CB cover on the bench with both Surman & Payne out. Presumably Rufer would have to slot in there in need.

One Tyler Boyd is a free agent if Uffie fancies it.

KiwiMancunian

One Tyler Boyd is a free agent if Uffie fancies it.

Yeah, that bridge is well and truly burnt. He will pop up in the MLS I'm sure.

It's football... no bridge is burnt.

Good age and experience.

MetalLegNZ

It's football... no bridge is burnt.

Good age and experience.

Yipe Barba's back at the Nix, and his departure last time was worse than Boyd's.

But I imagine the Nix will hold zero attractiveness to the American. If he doesn't stay in greater Europe, it will be the MLS.

Boyd apparently has interest from the MLS, Turkey and Liga MX. Yes he’s changed his association but could we have two Kiwis playing in SA?

coochiee

MetalLegNZ

It's football... no bridge is burnt.

Good age and experience.

Yipe Barba's back at the Nix, and his departure last time was worse than Boyd's.

But I imagine the Nix will hold zero attractiveness to the American. If he doesn't stay in greater Europe, it will be the MLS.

Disagree. Boyd was a double betrayal with the club and country and a general feeling he was too good for us. Kosta was an overhyped marquee. 

OVH has looked like he’s got something when he’s been given time. 
News on Sutts and Old?

Yeh we totally missed Oldie's energy and Waineo's scoring ability today. Bring back Ben!

martinb

coochiee

MetalLegNZ

It's football... no bridge is burnt.

Good age and experience.

Yipe Barba's back at the Nix, and his departure last time was worse than Boyd's.

But I imagine the Nix will hold zero attractiveness to the American. If he doesn't stay in greater Europe, it will be the MLS.

Disagree. Boyd was a double betrayal with the club and country and a general feeling he was too good for us. Kosta was an overhyped marquee. 

OVH has looked like he’s got something when he’s been given time. 
News on Sutts and Old?

Old apparently back for Sydney, according to press (AV I think). Sutts might be late for the plane, but could be available to play.

100% agree. Start these lads like Old and OVH and pick n stick. 

Oi Oi Edgecumbe

Yeh we totally missed Oldie's energy and Waineo's scoring ability today. Bring back Ben!

Transfer window open and we've got a slot in the squad.Do we think we're going to sign any one?

Did Brian Kaltak ever trial or have interest from Phoenix? Arguably the best CB in the league right now. 

Also anyone aware of any other talent in the islands? i reckon its time to have a proper look at these guys.

Nikko Boxall signed for Auckland City... interesting. 

Wonder if there's any chance we can do a deal to sign him after the Club World Cup? But not hopeful tbh given past fractured relationship with ACFC

Showtime Nixie

Did Brian Kaltak ever trial or have interest from Phoenix? Arguably the best CB in the league right now. 

Also anyone aware of any other talent in the islands? i reckon its time to have a proper look at these guys.

Oceania paid for him to trial with us a few years ago. He just signed an extension with CCM until 2025.

Should we look at someone from this article about nz's best up and coming players?

I can't actually read it, because its a premium article, more posting in hope someone who can, will : )

Link Here

Cannot believe we didn't sign Kaltak that's crazy! He will get Central Coast a good sale fee at some point for sure.

Nikko Boxall probably on more at ACFC than minimum A-League wage so unlikely he would come to us.

latest presser from talay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SWSJqdtnvU

Quizzed on Waine departure and any replacement.
Interesting he does make mention if bringing another player it would be a defender. Which they are looking into.

Makes sense.  If there is something we need to sure up it's defense.

Ryan

Showtime Nixie

Did Brian Kaltak ever trial or have interest from Phoenix? Arguably the best CB in the league right now. 

Also anyone aware of any other talent in the islands? i reckon its time to have a proper look at these guys.

Oceania paid for him to trial with us a few years ago. He just signed an extension with CCM until 2025.

CCM passed on him 4 years ago as well. The difference this time being Monty.

MetalLegNZ

Should we look at someone from this article about nz's best up and coming players?

I can't actually read it, because its a premium article, more posting in hope someone who can, will : )

Link Here

 On the men's side of that article the three players named are Jay Herdman, Marley Leuluai and Finn Surman (other two named are Milly Clegg and Danielle Canham). 

Showtime Nixie

Cannot believe we didn't sign Kaltak that's crazy! He will get Central Coast a good sale fee at some point for sure.

Nikko Boxall probably on more at ACFC than minimum A-League wage so unlikely he would come to us.

He's 29 and would probs have to spend a few seasons at A-League level to drive enough interest overseas and by then he'd probs be too old for clubs willing to pay a fee. But a big missed opportunity for us as he came to NZ in 2018? so he could've got citizenship after playing a season with us?

wilbaker

Showtime Nixie

Cannot believe we didn't sign Kaltak that's crazy! He will get Central Coast a good sale fee at some point for sure.

Nikko Boxall probably on more at ACFC than minimum A-League wage so unlikely he would come to us.

He's 29 and would probs have to spend a few seasons at A-League level to drive enough interest overseas and by then he'd probs be too old for clubs willing to pay a fee. But a big missed opportunity for us as he came to NZ in 2018? so he could've got citizenship after playing a season with us?

Yes is a missed opportunity in a way. Was handy in Krishna's last season having him as a non visa player.

But really the problem is ALM not having a non visa spot for OFC (non NZ) players. Would be a nice boost for the Island teams.

Ranix

latest presser from talay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SWSJqdtnvU

Quizzed on Waine departure and any replacement.
Interesting he does make mention if bringing another player it would be a defender. Which they are looking into.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/300783992/wellington-phoenix-consider-defensive-signing-following-ben-waines-departure

carlind

MetalLegNZ

Should we look at someone from this article about nz's best up and coming players?

I can't actually read it, because its a premium article, more posting in hope someone who can, will : )

Link Here

 On the men's side of that article the three players named are Jay Herdman, Marley Leuluai and Finn Surman (other two named are Milly Clegg and Danielle Canham). 

Marley Leuluai is the son of League player Kylie Leuluai. Picked up football while his Dad was playing league in the UK. Currently in the Man City system. Zero chance of him coming here for a while.

Would we be looking for a centre back or left back / right back?

Kurtis Mogg
Dino Botica
Sam Brotherton
Noah Billingsley 

Tyler Schriver (spp). If Kaltak can make the leap to ALM, maybe he could to.

Talay is quoted as 'speaking to the Board' (Welnix). I take that to mean it will have to be a cheap signing. Or maybe they need to do some succession planning if there has been some overseas interest in Sutton or even Elliott (UK passport). I'm sure Welnix wouldn't mind selling some more young Kiwis, for some useful transfer fee income if they can.

So a new LB or RB signing with a longer term outlook maybe. Just upgrade Adam Supyk to a senior deal even.

Niche Cache had Jack Henry-Sinclair as RB in it's 'team of the season (National League)'. Bilingsley not in 1st XI, 2nd XI or 3rd XI selections.
https://theniche-cache.com/football/2022/12/30/2022-mens-national-league-team-of-the-season

Noah Bilingsley was playing more forward the Chch United this season so doubt he’d be an option on the defensive end.

coochiee

Tyler Schriver (spp). If Kaltak can make the leap to ALM, maybe he could to.

Talay is quoted as 'speaking to the Board' (Welnix). I take that to mean it will have to be a cheap signing. Or maybe they need to do some succession planning if there has been some overseas interest in Sutton or even Elliott (UK passport). I'm sure Welnix wouldn't mind selling some more young Kiwis, for some useful transfer fee income if they can.

So a new LB or RB signing with a longer term outlook maybe. Just upgrade Adam Supyk to a senior deal even.

Niche Cache had Jack Henry-Sinclair as RB in it's 'team of the season (National League)'. Bilingsley not in 1st XI, 2nd XI or 3rd XI selections.
https://theniche-cache.com/football/2022/12/30/2022-mens-national-league-team-of-the-season

We need to be looking higher than that surely???? 

Options limited in a way, as has to be a non visa local signing, and is the off season for NPL and NZ National League players. So honestly could take a while for anyone from that pathway to get up to ALM fitness levels, and then the season is over.

Obviously there is Niko Boxall, or is there some Aussie up in Europe now a free agent? Nix look okay for LBs but I see Michael Zullo hasn't signed for the Roar.

Maybe Winston Reid is bored with retirement

I would have thought 'going to the board' only happens when you need more money than has been budgeted for. Which would mean someone who costs more than Waine's salary.

2ndBest

I would have thought 'going to the board' only happens when you need more money than has been budgeted for. Which would mean someone who costs more than Waine's salary.

Agreed - looking to reinvest that transfer fee!

Daniel Garb from the A Leagues Podcast has said that Sail has once again attracted interest from England.

NZPhoenixFan

Daniel Garb from the A Leagues Podcast has said that Sail has once again attracted interest from England.

 Transfermarkt has him off-contract at the end of the season, so unless there's an extension that isn't known about, anyone's free to negotiate with him right now

These guys should be on top of the contract extension list:

Oli Sail
Alex Rufer
Clayton Lewis
Callan Elliot

Full list of players off contract at the end of the season.

It should be noted that under Talay we've been keeping a higher % of players between season

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Tbh i would keep most of them, but wouldnt be to fussed if Laws & Sasse do leave, both I believe are quite replaceable (this is not to say they're not bad players)

FransenFC

Full list of players off contract at the end of the season.

It should be noted that under Talay we've been keeping a higher % of players between season

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Only thing is 5/9 of these players are starters currently
-Sail
-Mauragis
-Elliot
-Two CMs

Its worrying all 4 CM options are out of contract, NEED to keep 2 of them at least

Nixieboys222

Tbh i would keep most of them, but wouldnt be to fussed if Laws & Sasse do leave, both I believe are quite replaceable (this is not to say they're not bad players)

FransenFC

Full list of players off contract at the end of the season.

It should be noted that under Talay we've been keeping a higher % of players between season

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Nixieboys222

Tbh i would keep most of them, but wouldnt be to fussed if Laws & Sasse do leave, both I believe are quite replaceable (this is not to say they're not bad players)

FransenFC

Full list of players off contract at the end of the season.

It should be noted that under Talay we've been keeping a higher % of players between season

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EXPIRES END OF 2022/23:
Callan ELLIOT
Joshua LAWS
Clayton LEWIS
Lucas MAURAGIS [Loan]
Nicolas PENNINGTON
Alex RUFER
Oliver SAIL
Yan SASSE [V] *
Steven UGARKOVIC

EXPIRES END OF 2023/24:
Kosta BARBAROUSES
Bozhidar KRAEV [V]
Ben OLD
Alex PAULSEN
Oskar ZAWADA [V]

EXPIRES END OF 2024/25:
Tim PAYNE
Finn SURMAN
Sam SUTTON
Oskar VAN HATTUM
Scott WOOTTON [V]  
David BALL [V] 

* Reportedly has triggers to extend contract by 1 season