WPM 2023/24 Squad Speculation, Confirmation and Mutual Termination

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Life and death
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Mason Greenwood might be available. I say that tongue in cheek but what would you think if we signed him? I can’t remember the name of the Ex Serie A Italian who was in purgatory for match fixing (I think), do people deserve a chance at redemption?  
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Mason Greenwood might be available. I say that tongue in cheek but what would you think if we signed him? I can’t remember the name of the Ex Serie A Italian who was in purgatory for match fixing (I think), do people deserve a chance at redemption?  

You are thinking of Marco Rossi.  I suspect Mason Greenwood might have to go somewhere they do not speak English or at least read English newspapers.  I rather suspect that no matter where that lad goes, there will be fan revolt against him.  
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Saudi League surely - they will pass a law making it illegal to say anything negative about him.
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It’s a tough one- but I wonder how long that lasts. 
Just I was listening to a podcast and there was an interview with a murderer who had done his time and was now a tour guide. 
Mason Greenwood is likely never going to be able to benefit from the profession he’s trained for, once he’s gone from United. There’s a lot less famous who’ve done worse and been rehabilitated, or are famous and had name suppression and we never found out it was them. 
The charges being dropped in many ways do him no favours as justice is not seen to be done. 
I don’t excuse the behaviour, but I thought if we can rehabilitate a murderer, surely we can rehabilitate these young men? 

Anyway probably not a thought for this thread. 
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if we can rehabilitate a murderer


Bold statement that a murderer should have the right to play professional football at the highest level.
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if we can rehabilitate a murderer


Bold statement that a murderer should have the right to play professional football at the highest level.

Not what I said, though, yes well spotted, I could have been more clear. And many may believe murderers shouldn’t ever be returned to society, which is a valid view. 

A court would try to determine the severity of the offense against the benchmarks society has set and give him a chance to do his time. 

I was wondering how just the process that is playing out now will be. But I suppose he’s still a wealthy young man with his liberty, just unable to play a sport or do much that requires publicity. It’s not that much of a punishment in that context. 
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if we can rehabilitate a murderer


Bold statement that a murderer should have the right to play professional football at the highest level.

There are a few out there tbf. Marcos Alonso and Luke McCormack (ex Plymouth keeper).
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Everyone has the right, once they'd done their time and paid their debt to society/their victims, to be accepted back into society. That does not mean they have a right to whatever riches or privilege they had before they did their crime.
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Everyone has the right, once they'd done their time and paid their debt to society/their victims, to be accepted back into society. That does not mean they have a right to whatever riches or privilege they had before they did their crime.

I kinda agree with that, if their wealth has been gained by criminal means then absolutley they should not be allowed it after they've done their time, but if their weath has nothing to do with the alleged criminality then it can't/shouldnt be confiscated and they should be able to access it once released.
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Doloras
Everyone has the right, once they'd done their time and paid their debt to society/their victims, to be accepted back into society. That does not mean they have a right to whatever riches or privilege they had before they did their crime.

Once they've done their time they have the right to whatever employment they can get, if that employment is professional football then it is what it is. That is the nature of western justice systems.
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Marquee
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No dickhead policy trumps all rehabilitation though.
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Life and death
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Does that policy actually exist at the club? Or is it an urban myth?
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No dickhead policy trumps all rehabilitation though.
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Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi
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Thank God, some speculation that isn't about greenwood
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Chiefytheman
Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi

If we sign another local CB we'll definitely be lining up an import forward then. Midfield spots are covered with the players we've got so can't see them signing an import CM. Maybe an import RB but not sure if we've ever signed an import fullback from recent memory. 
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Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi
What are peoples thoughts on him/his level? 
Never been sold on him, but I believe he is left footed and left sided centre backs are fashionable nowadays.
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Does that policy actually exist at the club? Or is it an urban myth?
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No dickhead policy trumps all rehabilitation though.
yes, when hiring players the team always talks about character and attitude first and ability second.
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Chiefytheman
Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi
What are peoples thoughts on him/his level? 
Never been sold on him, but I believe he is left footed and left sided centre backs are fashionable nowadays.
Haven't watched him play for a long time. So only speculating, but would have thought he'd be a similar level to Laws maybe...... Probably not an upgrade when you consider Laws is now playing in Europe and Brotherton is playing US third tier, but he is a NZer.
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Chiefytheman
Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi
What are peoples thoughts on him/his level? 
Never been sold on him, but I believe he is left footed and left sided centre backs are fashionable nowadays.


Average at best.
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Would’ve preferred to keep Nikko over Brotherton but I’ll take it I suppose.
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Chiefytheman
Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi
What are peoples thoughts on him/his level? 
Never been sold on him, but I believe he is left footed and left sided centre backs are fashionable nowadays.


Average at best.

Well he ain't doing much at Forward Madison (FM) who are 5th in the USL League One - basically 3rd tier stateside. Only 5 starts across the season in 23 games.

FM have a RB by the name of Payne, maybe that's the selling point.

https://us.soccerway.com/players/samuel-brotherton/388835/


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Thank God, some speculation that isn't about greenwood

Sorry! 

So no return for Rojas or Musa either? Probably prefer him ahead of Brotherton just on the basis he was here long long ago! 
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Chiefytheman
Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi
What are peoples thoughts on him/his level? 
Never been sold on him, but I believe he is left footed and left sided centre backs are fashionable nowadays.
Haven't watched him play for a long time. So only speculating, but would have thought he'd be a similar level to Laws maybe...... Probably not an upgrade when you consider Laws is now playing in Europe and Brotherton is playing US third tier, but he is a NZer.

And that Laws assist for Zawada last season was tip top.

Question is is he better than Payne. And again probably not is the answer. We need at least two CBS better than Payne to be doing well. Surman will be pushing you’d think, but not yet. 
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Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi

Could it be that one of his ex team mates at ACFC like Nathan Lobo or Joe Lee has been signed by the Nix?

Chiefy did say they would be looking closely at some NZ Domestic players when he was appointed. There just has been no word on anyone trialling, apart from that Bayliss guy - and he's come over from Oz.
Life and death
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Doesn’t every club say the same things? How about actuality in practise?
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Napier Phoenix
Does that policy actually exist at the club? Or is it an urban myth?
Ryan
No dickhead policy trumps all rehabilitation though.
yes, when hiring players the team always talks about character and attitude first and ability second.
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Chiefytheman
Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi

Could it be that one of his ex team mates at ACFC like Nathan Lobo or Joe Lee has been signed by the Nix?

Chiefy did say they would be looking closely at some NZ Domestic players when he was appointed. There just has been no word on anyone trialling, apart from that Bayliss guy - and he's come over from Oz.

I know I've been out of the loop the last couple weeks but what Bayliss guy? The NZ u23's called up an Aussie Bayliss kid but he is contracted to the Jets.

We do have that young Fijian kid on trial 
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Chiefytheman
Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi

Could it be that one of his ex team mates at ACFC like Nathan Lobo or Joe Lee has been signed by the Nix?

Chiefy did say they would be looking closely at some NZ Domestic players when he was appointed. There just has been no word on anyone trialling, apart from that Bayliss guy - and he's come over from Oz.

I know I've been out of the loop the last couple weeks but what Bayliss guy? The NZ u23's called up an Aussie Bayliss kid but he is contracted to the Jets.

We do have that young Fijian kid on trial 
NZ u23s have called up Lachlan Bayliss who plays as an attacking midfielder for the Jets.

Nix are currently trialling Lachlan’s older brother James Bayliss. He’s 23, plays for the Mariners (mainly reserves atm) and can cover defensive midfield, left back and right back.
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Doesn’t every club say the same things? How about actuality in practise?
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Napier Phoenix
Does that policy actually exist at the club? Or is it an urban myth?
Ryan
No dickhead policy trumps all rehabilitation though.
yes, when hiring players the team always talks about character and attitude first and ability second.
To disprove that the policy is real, all you would have to do is provide an example of a Nix player who was a talented dickhead. 
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Thanks Friar Tuck, I seem to have totally missed that news.
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Napier Phoenix
Doesn’t every club say the same things? How about actuality in practise?
Ryan
Napier Phoenix
Does that policy actually exist at the club? Or is it an urban myth?
Ryan
No dickhead policy trumps all rehabilitation though.
yes, when hiring players the team always talks about character and attitude first and ability second.
To disprove that the policy is real, all you would have to do is provide an example of a Nix player who was a talented dickhead. 
Stefan Marinovic 
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and Sarpreet Singh
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Chiefytheman
Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi

Could it be that one of his ex team mates at ACFC like Nathan Lobo or Joe Lee has been signed by the Nix?

Chiefy did say they would be looking closely at some NZ Domestic players when he was appointed. There just has been no word on anyone trialling, apart from that Bayliss guy - and he's come over from Oz.

I know I've been out of the loop the last couple weeks but what Bayliss guy? The NZ u23's called up an Aussie Bayliss kid but he is contracted to the Jets.

We do have that young Fijian kid on trial 
NZ u23s have called up Lachlan Bayliss who plays as an attacking midfielder for the Jets.

Nix are currently trialling Lachlan’s older brother James Bayliss. He’s 23, plays for the Mariners (mainly reserves atm) and can cover defensive midfield, left back and right back.
these are the children of Skip Bayless - not sure how they qualify to play for NZ
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Singh and Marinovic were dickheads? I'd be interested to know why you reckon they were dickheads? 

I'd probably say Oli Sail but can't say I'm an excellent judge of character, especially when I haven't even met them, just watched them
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Chiefytheman
Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi

Could it be that one of his ex team mates at ACFC like Nathan Lobo or Joe Lee has been signed by the Nix?

Chiefy did say they would be looking closely at some NZ Domestic players when he was appointed. There just has been no word on anyone trialling, apart from that Bayliss guy - and he's come over from Oz.

I know I've been out of the loop the last couple weeks but what Bayliss guy? The NZ u23's called up an Aussie Bayliss kid but he is contracted to the Jets.

We do have that young Fijian kid on trial 
NZ u23s have called up Lachlan Bayliss who plays as an attacking midfielder for the Jets.

Nix are currently trialling Lachlan’s older brother James Bayliss. He’s 23, plays for the Mariners (mainly reserves atm) and can cover defensive midfield, left back and right back.
these are the children of Skip Bayless - not sure how they qualify to play for NZ

Interesting.
I wonder why they spell their name different?

James has “I have Australian an New Zealand passports…” on his LinkedIn page, and Lachlan is about to play some Olympic qualifiers for New Zealand, so would on the face of it have rights to New Zealand citizenship. Perhaps the boys have at least one parent who was not Skip Bayless do you think?


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Chiefytheman
Sam Brotherton has just started following the Nix on Insta. CB with experience and a Kiwi

Could it be that one of his ex team mates at ACFC like Nathan Lobo or Joe Lee has been signed by the Nix?

Chiefy did say they would be looking closely at some NZ Domestic players when he was appointed. There just has been no word on anyone trialling, apart from that Bayliss guy - and he's come over from Oz.
Ahahaha of course we have been providing lip service by saying we are looking closely at domestic players.

I'll believe it when I see it... the Nix prefer to look after their own interests and promote from the academy (or get some Aussie rando that our coach used to coach)
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The NIX is a business - they should look after their own interest first, always.

I don't understand how that can be a slight against the club... it's kind of a necessity for building a sustainable company.
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Joey Johns
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Singh and Marinovic were dickheads? I'd be interested to know why you reckon they were dickheads? 

I'd probably say Oli Sail but can't say I'm an excellent judge of character, especially when I haven't even met them, just watched them
Yeah, I want to hear details on all three of these too. Especially Singh, because, let's face it, goalkeepers are naturally 20% more dickish than outfield players
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anaveragestem
Joey Johns
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Singh and Marinovic were dickheads? I'd be interested to know why you reckon they were dickheads? 

I'd probably say Oli Sail but can't say I'm an excellent judge of character, especially when I haven't even met them, just watched them
Yeah, I want to hear details on all three of these too. Especially Singh, because, let's face it, goalkeepers are naturally 20% more dickish than outfield players

yeah Oli is probably the only one I'd call a dick and that was really only due to his behavior in the last season. Even then it wasn't directed at the fans, his team or the club, more the opposition. Singh?????? Marinovic? I mean, I never liked the guy as a player but nothing would scream "dick" about him.
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Why are we talking about Singh and Marinovic when we should be talking about Mitch Nichols
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WPM 2023/24 Squad Speculation, Confirmation and Mutual Termination