Sorry if it's been asked already, but are Auckland Fc competing in the Australian Cup as of 24/25, or are they starting it later, as some of the qualifying has already started?
If you go to the Auckland FC Supporters FB page, you'll see a range of mixed views on 'The Port' as the name of their new main supporters group. Some Pro, some Con.
But yes until someone comes up with a more popular alternative, that seems their Supporters Group name for now. One of those in favour highlighting it's similar to how SFC's main fan group is the Cove.
Sorry if it's been asked already, but are Auckland Fc competing in the Australian Cup as of 24/25, or are they starting it later, as some of the qualifying has already started?
I don't think I've seen this brought up tbh. I would expect the answer to be no, mainly because the bottom four play off for spots in the Rnd of 32 before players contracts are up in June. They won't have a team ready to compete by then.
If you go to the Auckland FC Supporters FB page, you'll see a range of mixed views on 'The Port' as the name of their new main supporters group. Some Pro, some Con.
But yes until someone comes up with a more popular alternative, that seems their Supporters Group name for now. One of those in favour highlighting it's similar to how SFC's main fan group is the Cove.
Hi all. Quick one, where did “Wellington is the home of football.” come from?
With a number of Ex-Sydney people already on board at AFC I would've thought going for something close to The Cove would've been a con.
I wont add any more on the subject, so something ever so slightly back on the topic of AklFC... I don't know why my brain went here but it did. A Deceptikonz track as a walkout tune would blow my tiny mind.
I can handle 'Port' as a name..but using the Mutton Birds for a theme song is a real worry. Kiwi dirge funeral music. No thanks.
Not a fan of their music, but this Six 60 video I think of as very Auckland. Even if it has cameos from a Cantab, redundant news readers and a meth money launderer.
Perhaps a theme song for Doloras's socialist Ultras group, given Chloe Swarbrick also features. Maybe a bit too up beat poppy, however for sickle brandishing comrade types.
They start off by reinforcing their Black Knights branding (makes sense) and then finish with "Up the Purt". Fan group doing it, that's fine, that's their name. Club doing it though? Are they also a Port now? I reckon they need to fire their social media person (don't get me started on the double spaces they leave in on their posts).
Interesting read in relation to Auckland and successful sporting teams. I hardly follow league at all, but still notice the buzz around the Warriors. Yet they only sit 9th (bottom half) on the current NRL ladder!
Basically keep the rules simple, win more than you lose, and have some genuinely best in comp star X factor players that fans will pay to see!
Sports don't come much simpler than football. Though a big plus for the Warriors no doubt is they are the only NZ team in their comp.
Be interesting to see if 'Pinot Ports' become a thing if the Black Knights start off with a bang, and Aucklanders jump on board.
The latest buzzword around the Warriors is ‘Pinot Wahs’,a phrase to describe rich, white sports fans that have jumped on the club’s bandwagon. No longer are the Warriors a team only supported by those from west and south Auckland.
"That’s well and truly false, we’ve got members all around the globe, let alone all around New Zealand,” George said.
“We’re really proud that we’ve got a nation following our footy club and in Auckland, there are just as many members north of the bridge, than south of it.
“We’re seeing a huge growth in our membership, right across the board. We’re a nationwide club, supported by a nationwide fan base.”
But George is a realist, he knows the Warriors’ popularity could wane if form drops.
I think in NZ having some working class or primary industry cred is part of a valued masculine/ national identity. IE I can do DIY/barbecue/kick an egg ball, make a tackle etc etc if I had to. We don’t look up to our ‘royals’ like Ali Williams and fam in adoration. Thus it’s easy for fans to drop in and out of various egg ball codes as they have success.
Conversely soccer-football has not really had a strong NZ identity. It’s got an ex-pat cultural cringe identity. Unlike overseas where it’s the sport of angry young toughs like Roy Keane and Ian Wright, here it’s seen as middle class and worst of all, soft. That’s probably why many of our best players were no nonsense defenders.
So while there is a strong and long heritage of participation in soccer-football, it’s not held up to espouse the national virtues of mateship and toughness.
Pommy soccer like Liverpool and that is different because that’s their thing and it’s okay to watch that sometimes.
Our recent successes include those exposed to a football culture or indeed just a culture outside the NZ mainstream including Italy and India.
In leaders like Ricki, Danny Hay, Ryan Nelsen and Woodsy we reclaim it a bit for NZ. But they’re still seen as a bit over there. It doesn’t help that internationally there isn’t really a chance to build serious and sustained rivalries. Nothing like being up against Poms/Aussies/Saffers/etc regularly to get people to support you.
The Nix have done a heck of a job and I think Auckland will be fascinating in how the NZ mainstream copes with two soccer-football teams.
But certainly the cultural rules for supporting them are guna be different, but we’re not quite sure exactly how different and how far behind we’ve left Barry Crump and, please forgive me, an archetype like Don Clarke. We’re not used to status symbol sport, or at least the ABs are supposed to be humble etc. Auckland AFC might not be so apologetic for its own existence.
I think in NZ having some working class or primary industry cred is part of a valued masculine/ national identity. IE I can do DIY/barbecue/kick an egg ball, make a tackle etc etc if I had to. We don’t look up to our ‘royals’ like Ali Williams and fam in adoration. Thus it’s easy for fans to drop in and out of various egg ball codes as they have success.
Conversely soccer-football has not really had a strong NZ identity. It’s got an ex-pat cultural cringe identity. Unlike overseas where it’s the sport of angry young toughs like Roy Keane and Ian Wright, here it’s seen as middle class and worst of all, soft. That’s probably why many of our best players were no nonsense defenders.
So while there is a strong and long heritage of participation in soccer-football, it’s not held up to espouse the national virtues of mateship and toughness.
Pommy soccer like Liverpool and that is different because that’s their thing and it’s okay to watch that sometimes.
Our recent successes include those exposed to a football culture or indeed just a culture outside the NZ mainstream including Italy and India.
In leaders like Ricki, Danny Hay, Ryan Nelsen and Woodsy we reclaim it a bit for NZ. But they’re still seen as a bit over there. It doesn’t help that internationally there isn’t really a chance to build serious and sustained rivalries. Nothing like being up against Poms/Aussies/Saffers/etc regularly to get people to support you.
The Nix have done a heck of a job and I think Auckland will be fascinating in how the NZ mainstream copes with two soccer-football teams.
But certainly the cultural rules for supporting them are guna be different, but we’re not quite sure exactly how different and how far behind we’ve left Barry Crump and, please forgive me, an archetype like Don Clarke. We’re not used to status symbol sport, or at least the ABs are supposed to be humble etc. Auckland AFC might not be so apologetic for its own existence.
Replying to the interesting Martinb post. Regarding sporting culture in NZ I think the tide has/is turning. The Nix are established and are excepted as part of the sporting landscape, if not yet 100% mainstream. The timing of the arrival of Auckland FC could well be perfect. A lot of the macho sports establishment was stunned by the support of the WWC. Ok, many who watched were event driven but there is an enormous number of people who are turned off by the toxic masculinity of rugby culture and now look to football as an option. NZ has changed enormously. Auckland FC are going to do OK. They will probably be too bling bling for my taste but what ever works in Auckland.
Replying to the interesting Martinb post. Regarding sporting culture in NZ I think the tide has/is turning. The Nix are established and are excepted as part of the sporting landscape, if not yet 100% mainstream. The timing of the arrival of Auckland FC could well be perfect. A lot of the macho sports establishment was stunned by the support of the WWC. Ok, many who watched were event driven but there is an enormous number of people who are turned off by the toxic masculinity of rugby culture and now look to football as an option. NZ has changed enormously. Auckland FC are going to do OK. They will probably be too bling bling for my taste but what ever works in Auckland.
I think we are floundering a bit as a culture. Look at our response to this government and last election campaign. A company can essentially run a candidate on the West Coast? Eh. Ministers can govern by fiat, and attack the courts. Huh. Policies can be openly run for the late stage tobacco lobby? True. Nothing has seen us take to the streets. We used to be mostly opposed to this kind of starvation of our state. Now we’re not sure.
Cricket is splintering. Super Rugby has splintered. US money is in the hen house, with little respect for fusty board rooms and the like. The Saffers have pissed off and taken their money with them. The ABs aren’t as special as they recently were (though McCaw and Carter were freaks!) and we can’t afford stadiums to watch them in in rugby strongholds. The prosperity and insularity of the 50s and 60s is well in the past.
So I think if anyone comes in with confidence about their identity and what they’re doing they’re guna pick up followers. Especially if they have money and perhaps something new to offer. I think the Nix has shown it’s possible. In a city of 1.5 million there has to be 15,000 people who’d come to a decent footy game, if the game clearly believed in itself.
I think there’s still guna be plenty of toxicity around the football, sadly. But of a different kind!
And having your masculine identity tied into sport doesn’t HAVE TO be toxic. Better sport than bitcoin imo.
Though that said the WahiNix have been great to watch.
Replying to the interesting Martinb post. Regarding sporting culture in NZ I think the tide has/is turning. The Nix are established and are excepted as part of the sporting landscape, if not yet 100% mainstream. The timing of the arrival of Auckland FC could well be perfect. A lot of the macho sports establishment was stunned by the support of the WWC. Ok, many who watched were event driven but there is an enormous number of people who are turned off by the toxic masculinity of rugby culture and now look to football as an option. NZ has changed enormously. Auckland FC are going to do OK. They will probably be too bling bling for my taste but what ever works in Auckland.
I think we are floundering a bit as a culture. Look at our response to this government and last election campaign. A company can essentially run a candidate on the West Coast? Eh. Ministers can govern by fiat, and attack the courts. Huh. Policies can be openly run for the late stage tobacco lobby? True. Nothing has seen us take to the streets. We used to be mostly opposed to this kind of starvation of our state. Now we’re not sure.
Cricket is splintering. Super Rugby has splintered. US money is in the hen house, with little respect for fusty board rooms and the like. The Saffers have pissed off and taken their money with them. The ABs aren’t as special as they recently were (though McCaw and Carter were freaks!) and we can’t afford stadiums to watch them in in rugby strongholds. The prosperity and insularity of the 50s and 60s is well in the past.
So I think if anyone comes in with confidence about their identity and what they’re doing they’re guna pick up followers. Especially if they have money and perhaps something new to offer. I think the Nix has shown it’s possible. In a city of 1.5 million there has to be 15,000 people who’d come to a decent footy game, if the game clearly believed in itself.
I think there’s still guna be plenty of toxicity around the football, sadly. But of a different kind!
And having your masculine identity tied into sport doesn’t HAVE TO be toxic. Better sport than bitcoin imo.
Though that said the WahiNix have been great to watch.
But is Popeye's spinach grown sustainably? Does he truly respect Olive Oyl? And is he not consumed by guilt in being unable to locate his inner Maori?
Replying to the interesting Martinb post. Regarding sporting culture in NZ I think the tide has/is turning. The Nix are established and are excepted as part of the sporting landscape, if not yet 100% mainstream. The timing of the arrival of Auckland FC could well be perfect. A lot of the macho sports establishment was stunned by the support of the WWC. Ok, many who watched were event driven but there is an enormous number of people who are turned off by the toxic masculinity of rugby culture and now look to football as an option. NZ has changed enormously. Auckland FC are going to do OK. They will probably be too bling bling for my taste but what ever works in Auckland.
I think we are floundering a bit as a culture. Look at our response to this government and last election campaign. A company can essentially run a candidate on the West Coast? Eh. Ministers can govern by fiat, and attack the courts. Huh. Policies can be openly run for the late stage tobacco lobby? True. Nothing has seen us take to the streets. We used to be mostly opposed to this kind of starvation of our state. Now we’re not sure.
Cricket is splintering. Super Rugby has splintered. US money is in the hen house, with little respect for fusty board rooms and the like. The Saffers have pissed off and taken their money with them. The ABs aren’t as special as they recently were (though McCaw and Carter were freaks!) and we can’t afford stadiums to watch them in in rugby strongholds. The prosperity and insularity of the 50s and 60s is well in the past.
So I think if anyone comes in with confidence about their identity and what they’re doing they’re guna pick up followers. Especially if they have money and perhaps something new to offer. I think the Nix has shown it’s possible. In a city of 1.5 million there has to be 15,000 people who’d come to a decent footy game, if the game clearly believed in itself.
I think there’s still guna be plenty of toxicity around the football, sadly. But of a different kind!
And having your masculine identity tied into sport doesn’t HAVE TO be toxic. Better sport than bitcoin imo.
Though that said the WahiNix have been great to watch.
But is Popeye's spinach grown sustainably? Does he truly respect Olive Oyl? And is he not consumed by guilt in being unable to locate his inner Maori?
No Popeye is in a tiny room in a retirement home which he had to sell his $2 million 2 bedroom house to get into. No appreciation, no refunds.
Organics etc are Matakana markets, Nosh etc etc type queries. Obviously he don’t give a fark about all that. Rest home meals are provided.
I mean there is a theory that lowland Scots and Pakeha New Zealanders are some of the dullest people on the planet. In order to get around this the Scots use the Highlanders for their identity and Kiwis tutu around in boats getting pipis and flounder, listening on their transistors to the ABs do the haka before the game.
People around the world tend to agree- Sir George Grey not making many craft beer labels: (https://thespinoff.co.nz/kai/25-01-2023/why-are-overseas-breweries-still-getting-it-so-wrong-when-it-comes-to-maori Despite as the article says there being no such thing as Maori beer, ‘Type “Māori” into the search bar on beer tracking platform Untappd and you’ll be confronted by an astonishing number of results: 11,407 beers with the word included in their names at the time of writing. Meanwhile, the word “aroha” returns almost 2,000 beers and “haka” results in 17,000. ‘) That’s the international association with New Zealand and the awesome array of New Zealand hops.
I’m a bit confused about Popeye in this situation. He should be a tattooed (Great Polynesian word that) yank and so damn interesting and above it all, but I had him in an old NZ house initially above. Unless he’s really a Catholic Glaswegian ship builder, I don’t think he’s guilty about much. Work hard, play hard kind of guy.
Does he truly respect Olive Oyl? I’m not sure about that. No windows into men souls and so on. I don’t know him well enough.
The Port seems an odd branding which has zip all to do with the medieval crusade type imagery or even the warrior language. But hey, if it gets you 5% off at Foley pubs I’m sure no one minds.
But the idea of Auckland as a baby Bling, a kind of posh, flashy, preppy kid of a Corica + City FG nous footy club, should appeal to a few tbh. If their play can match that ambition.
Anyway, wtf were we talking about? Was that a very poor attempt at trolling or a dig at the Port? Or a bit of both? Surely we’re not bored with the season still all to play for?
With so many of our players at NIX already signed for next year - will our angst be directed at their signings... but obviously in reverse, if they sign quality we complain, if the sign a journeyman we celebrate.
Our Island on the logo is sharke - haven't really worried much about their other promo stuff to the PORT idea... but that part is poor IMO.
With so many of our players at NIX already signed for next year - will our angst be directed at their signings... but obviously in reverse, if they sign quality we complain, if the sign a journeyman we celebrate.
Our Island on the logo is sharke - haven't really worried much about their other promo stuff to the PORT idea... but that part is poor IMO.
Yeah, I'm all good with building a rivalry etc, but claiming the North Island as your own is a bit naff especially when most of the country have some reason or another to dislike Auckland and wish to not be connected to them in anyway. Why not something like "Our city, our team, our tribe/legion"??? keep what you claiming local, maybe win a few derbies before you start making claims that suggest you are the footballing centre of the North Island, when clearly the Nix are!
