I'd swap Lehmann for Richards any day. I'd love it if Wenger bought him he's got a great future ahead of him and i think he'd get plenty of game time unlike if he went somewhere like Chel$ki.
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Saw an article today that steve bruce has asked wenger to have
bendtner back on loan in january... thoughts?
Better than Robinson?
Better than Robinson?
Wont mind if we bought scott carson the liverpool keeper hes pretty
good
if lehmann hadnt been sent off i suspect he could have just about
saved both of those... I don't see Almunia as a number one keeper
for any length of time....He never mistimes coming out, he alwasy
gets the ball, hes great one on one, hes great at diving saves, the
guy has it all. For me he is by far and away the best keeper in the
world, i've never seen anything like him, not Van der sar, not
buffon, not kahn even at his peak, dare i say it hes better than
seaman ever was. The guy is unbelievable.
If Lehmann hadn't been sent off in that match, then he probably could have saved both of the goals that Barcelona scored, but having said that, Almunia didn't have a bad final. Overall I rate him as a good goalie - nowhere near the best, but I'd prefer him to a lot of other premier league goalies. And when you say that Cech is better than Kahn in his prime, I think that's quite a big call to make. In his prime Kahn was a phenomenal goalkeeper. And I think Moss could give old Cech a run for his money any day
Would you really start richards ahead of
toure/gallas/eboue/sagna???
Yes he would get game time, but not in a big game with
everyone fit. He may very well be defensively better than
eboue/sagna (big if) but he would not suit our game plan with them
flying down the right garrincha style.
Definitely no way I would start him in the middle ahead of
toure or gallas either...
Just not the arsenal way - we buy them young and mould them.
Richards is already a class act - yes he will get better but he
hasn't been bought through our systems so may not align to our
style of play. Does he have the one-touch skills which are a
necessity for all ten outfiled players at arsenal??? (Senderos
aside )
Its funny how we always pick on the other CD when they are paired
with Toure. First Cygan (who wasn't completely useless), now
Senderos. I think senderos is a great CD but even Rio
Ferdinand or John Terry would look crap playing alongside Toure. I
am still amazed that every summer with all the rumors of big clubs
stealing our best players, nothing ever gets mentioned about Toure?
UberGunner2007-10-13 09:44:02
Very good point. Toure is absolutely outstanding year after year -
perhaps the most underrated player in the premiership?
which makes losing him for the african nations cup, a major
problem.
Agreed. We'll definitely need Gallas fit for that period. His
experience will be indispensable without Toure there. Though I do
rate Senderos, and Gilberto is able enough to play there, having
someone like Toure or Gallas makes them look better and a lot more
comfortable...
I read the other day that Bendtner is considering a move away
if he cant'get gametime. That would be a shame. I liked the look of
him pre-season, and he was outstanding when on loan at Birmingham.
I'd love to see him fopr 90 mins in the premiership. Guess it wont
happen unless there's injuries though. RVP and Adebayor are carving
right now, and Eduardo is likely to get time once back from
injury...
Also, even though we have all this money supposedly available
in january, can you really see wenger buying anyone? We don't
really appear to need any players, perhaps a centre back but that's
all? Even then, we'll probably just bring Djourou back
from loan? Almost certain that we won't be bidding for
Richards or any other big buys.
Hey boys. Was just having a flick through the ManU thread and
thought a congrats is in order.
The gunners thread is by far the biggest english team thread
on this site, and i think the general discussion is very well
informed - seems all us local gooners are quite advanced in our
technical knowledge of the english game. I enjoy reading everyone's
comments on here, and was quire surprised to see the number of
gooners making comments on the ManU thread. Some nifty little one
liners (nice work ubergunner) and a lot of sticking up for the
mighty arsenal - good to see.
Because my lord, those scum fans can talk some sh*te!!!! Their
thread was a load of b*llocks. Not a smart word between them.
Big ups to us gooners, we are the best fans on this
site!
ARSENAL PREMIERSHIP CHAMPIONS 07/08!!!!
^^^^ nuf said!
Tbh paul i don't even bother going into the Man Yoo thread. No time for it.
Wenger only send Djourou out on loan untill jan so he can come back and be cover while toure goes for african cup. Maybe buy a keeper i reckon we seem to have most other areas well covered. on a side note check this freekick out from the weekend
Best fans for sure.
Saw an article today that steve bruce has asked wenger to have
bendtner back on loan in january... thoughts?
I think it could be a good move. See him up against some big
teams. Although the service to him wouldn't be great. Then again,
we would be light on strikers if we got injuries...
Great idea imo. He's obviously gunning (no pun intended) for some
game time but isn't yet up to Arsenal standards. Adebayor won't be
going to the African Cup now so unless we get an injury to a
striker, let Bendtner out.
Yea just saw that about adebayor. For anyone who doesn't know;
"Arsenal have been given a boost because striker Emmanuel
Adebayor's Togo side failed to qualify for the African Nations Cup,
meaning he will not miss any games for the Gunners at the end of
January. (Daily Mirror)"
Holy sh*t just watched that youtube link a few posts up... freakin
amazing. Reminded me of the first of my hattrick at indoor footy on
sunday
Another bit of positive team news for Arsenal is Lehman finally put on a perfromance worthy of all his self promotion lately. His form vs Ireland was excellant, and if he continues in a similar manner to the last time Wenger dropped him, Almunia may have a struggle keeping his spot.
as crazy as lehman is he is our number 1, i have never really rated
Almunia as a first choice keeper for us, if we are going to do
business in the transfer window i'm sure it will be for a keeper
I think it could be a good move. See him up against some big
teams. Although the service to him wouldn't be great. Then again,
we would be light on strikers if we got injuries...
It would be good to see him in top flight and give him a
chance to prove himself, he would get good service from seb larrson
the x gunner he's they best player. I really do hope that
Bendtner does stick around because he has a lot of skill and is big
and strong. On a sidenote cant wait for silva to click into gear,
he scored for croatia in the weekend
It must be hard for Wenger to decide which players to give game
time too. for the first time in a long time we don't have a
plethora on injuries, and the team seems to be firing on all
cylinders. we are so attack minded that at home we basically play
2-4-4, with both our left and right sides spending more time
forward than back. We struggled to use our width last season and
considering the amount of space we had at Highbury its no surprise
that it took a while to adjust, but now with the pace and ball
control we have out wide, teams struggle to contain us. Teams that
last year where putting 10 men behind the ball where having some
success because we seemed to only have one type of approach play,
now we are whipping in pinpoint crosses behind those 10 man
defenses and scoring nearly at will sometimes. I think when we play
Liverpool and Man- u at the end of the month we will see how much
ground we have made on the big teams. Lesser teams playing against
Arsenal try to contain us. Bigger teams try and stick to their own
game plan which they struggled to do against us last year, this
year i think they will be in with the other teams, trying to
contain us and scoring on the counter. I am really looking forward
to seeing how this run into Xmas pans out as it is usually our
weakest period of the season but I just cant spot any significant
weakness this year.
(pauses for breath)
MAY ARSENAL RULE FOREVER
yeah i do agree with you on that, the next 3games will be massive
for us, bolton has been our bogey team for a couple of years even
thou they arnt good as they used to be. if we can get 4points form
liverpool and man u i'd be happy
speaking on strikers we have young mexican carlos vela out on loan
in spain too
gunners vs bolton @245am sunday morning, sky has finally come to
its senses
I'm all over this one.
Predictions?
I'm thinking 3-1.
Predictions?
I'm thinking 3-1.
i'd say 2 nil, RVP should be raring to go as he didnt play for
holland in the weekend, dont why considering he's been on fire in
EPL. hope silva will come and score.
silva scored a goody for croatia. if you watch him before the bal
gets centered he totally confuses the defender who loses him, then
he does well to get to the ball and score. overall good. also hope
he blossoms, which i dont see as a problem seeing his past form for
club and country
Can't wait for the bolton game. Im predicting 4-0. Yes they have
been our nemesis, but i think we have shown a lot of resolve this
year and rough tactics don't seem to phase us like they have over
the past two years. In saying that, Bolton are not necessarily
playing that type of game anymore either. They are trying to play
real football and failing miserably. It will be a hiding, all we
have to do is keep a lid on anelka. I'm not really worried about
how we'll perform against the big teams either. We coped with them
well last year. All we need is for our midfield to control
posession and hte goals will come. It will be all about our backs
keeping drogba (if fit), torres, ronaldo etc under control - which
i think they are well capable of. When these guys run riot it's
generally due to their pace against cumbersome fullbacks and centre
halves. Sagna and clichy have plenty of pace, and toure/gallas are
no slouches. I am confident and i think we should be looking for 6
pts against manU/Lpool, although i too would be happy with 4
points. Lpool are down at the moment, and i think they should be
targeted for a good beating. Knowing their rubbish rotation policy,
you can bet more than one of their truly class players won't be
playing either. Always a bonus...
More importantly, i really hope we can get rosicky out there
and give him some good minutes to get his game going. With him,
fab, diaby, hleb, flamini, denilson and gilberto all fit, we'll
have a great starting midfield, and an awesome bench should we need
change it up a bit. Our depth is looking more impressive every game
that goes on. How many times do we dominate and score when our subs
are on...
P.S. i'm so damn excited that i am getting sick and tired of
international breaks!!!!
Left out Eboue when talking about that midfield too...
international breaks are a pain in the ass, 4-0 is my minimum
score, hoping for more tho...Besides Keepers is there any positions
we need to fill??
I don't think so. Djourou will come back on loan to cover toure for
the african nations cup. Who else do we lose for the african
nations? Just Eboue? Sagna is playing well, and we've got Hoyte
there... Bendtner is our fourth striker, and even if we had
striking injuries, we are more than confident playing a 4-5-1 with
RVP or Adebayor leading the line.
Our midfield is deep, plenty of cover there.
I don't think we'll need a keeper either really. Almunia has
been competent lately. And Lehmann is talking trash in the press -
generally when he talks trash he backs it up with good form - like
last time Almunia had a stint, and when he overtook Kahn for
Germany. We will really just need to grab a keeper next year i
think as this will probably be Lehmann's last. We may see Almunia
keeping next year in the premiership, with Fabianski doing the FA
Cup/Carling Cup in anticipation of taking the first team spot for
09/10. It appears we bought him to groom him for Lehmann's eventual
departure...
paulm2007-10-16 23:09:48
Dont really rate Almunia much aye, doesnt let in howlers but does
let in a few softies
PaulM is right. We couldnt be in a better position atm. everyone is
in form, nearly everyone is fit. quality cover and competition in
all positions, a carling cup squad that could beat most premier
league teams. Tonnes of cash for transfers, but no reason to spend
it :). The only downside at the moment is the international
break makes the newpapers in spain a little nervous with no gossip
to report so they have started the whole Fabregas rumors again.
First it was Barca, now Real Madrid. I dont think Fabregas will
want to leave Arsenal for another 3-4 years (if ever- and then only
to go to Barca), But if someone coughed up the 100mil euros to buy
out his 8 yr contract who knows?
i think he will repay wenger cos of the faith wenger should in him,
well i'm hoping so. He is our future captain if he sticks around
and has the x factor. Could trade him with barc maybe if they gave
us messi LOL
Agreed ubergunner. I really dont think fabregas will leave - he
loves wenger. But it doesn't make it any easier when reading all
the rumours. I think that's something I'll never get used to.
F*cking press!!!!
And ripthajacka i agree to some level on your almunia comment.
He doesn't have howlers, but he does let some in sometimes that
make me wonder 0 chief being both goals in the champions league
final; - if lehmann hadnt been sent off i suspect he could have
just about saved both of those... I don't see Almunia as a number
one keeper for any length of time. I think hes only there for
exactly what hes doing right now - cover for injury. And we've
obviously bought fabianski as our long term number one keeper
eventually.
All i can do is watch Petr Cech and dream of what could be...
honestly the guy is amazing. He is the only thing i really enjoy
watching when chelsea is playing. He never mistimes coming out, he
alwasy gets the ball, hes great one on one, hes great at diving
saves, the guy has it all. For me he is by far and away the best
keeper in the world, i've never seen anything like him, not Van der
sar, not buffon, not kahn even at his peak, dare i say it hes
better than seaman ever was. The guy is unbelievable.
All i can do is watch Petr Cech and dream of what could be...
honestly the guy is amazing. He is the only thing i really enjoy
watching when chelsea is playing. He never mistimes coming out, he
alwasy gets the ball, hes great one on one, hes great at diving
saves, the guy has it all. For me he is by far and away the best
keeper in the world, i've never seen anything like him, not Van der
sar, not buffon, not kahn even at his peak, dare i say it hes
better than seaman ever was. The guy is unbelievable.
Better than Robinson?
All i can do is watch Petr Cech and dream of what could be...
honestly the guy is amazing. He is the only thing i really enjoy
watching when chelsea is playing. He never mistimes coming out, he
alwasy gets the ball, hes great one on one, hes great at diving
saves, the guy has it all. For me he is by far and away the best
keeper in the world, i've never seen anything like him, not Van der
sar, not buffon, not kahn even at his peak, dare i say it hes
better than seaman ever was. The guy is unbelievable.
Better than Robinson?
Hell im better than Robinson, and the keepers glove dont fit
me properly.
Wont mind if we bought scott carson the liverpool keeper hes pretty
good
The problem is, is "pretty good" good enough for Arsenal. If
he isnt a regular fist team starter @ Liverpool, do we really want
to have him as our first choice.
I was quite excited after the world cup when we where rumored
to be looking at buying Buffon (shame it never happened), but
finding a quality keeper from anywhere, good enough to make a mark
in the Premier League is a big ask. Thats why I think Wenger
is grooming Fabianski. Every year it gets harder to import premier
league quality as the level increases year after year, as better
players are brought in. Even the championship quality is
increaseing as the quality of the premiership hand me downs,
increases also.
If Lehmann hadn't been sent off in that match, then he probably could have saved both of the goals that Barcelona scored, but having said that, Almunia didn't have a bad final. Overall I rate him as a good goalie - nowhere near the best, but I'd prefer him to a lot of other premier league goalies. And when you say that Cech is better than Kahn in his prime, I think that's quite a big call to make. In his prime Kahn was a phenomenal goalkeeper. And I think Moss could give old Cech a run for his money any day
i thought he was out at loan at aston villa at the moment?? he was
awesome for charlton last year, if he wasnt there charlton might
have let in double the amount of goals
ps Yes i was excited about buffon too but i have learnt that
wenger will never buy a superstar
Heh. Bolton have let both their managers go 4 days out from this
weekends game. They probaly said you have get a point from the
Arsenal game or your fired, and he said "May as well quit now
then!"