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Fifa man opposes England World cup bid.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/6939170.stm
 
 
Basically this Fifa rep has made some pretty derogatory comments about England and English football and opposes the England bid for the 2018 world cup. He states England has made no impact in football, obviously he fails to remember the 1996 European Cup which was considered a pretty successful tournament and that the premier league has a huge following throughout the world. Its pretty sad that people still need to bash England. The empire is finished get over it.
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Read a book called "Foul!" by Andrew Jennings. After you've read that you'll have a better picture of what Jack Warner's all about, and the rest of his FIFA cronies   
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JENNINGS: Mr Warner failed to respond to my requests for an interview, so I tried to catch his attention as he arrived at this political meeting flanked by minders. Good evening, Mr Warner - Andrew Jennings, BBC Panorama programme. Would you give me an interview? WARMER: Excuse.. excuse. JENNINGS: [to minder muscling in] We're on a public highway, please don't interrupt. WARNER: Would you please leave along. JENNINGS: I would like to ask you, how much profit do you expect to make� WARNER: Would you please leave me alone. JENNINGS: � from trading in World Cup tickets this year? WARNER: Why don't you go f--k yourself! JENNINGS: Mr Warner, I asked you how much profit you hope to make from the World Cup this year. You are selling tickets? [Warner beckons to henchman to advance] JENNINGS: Could I ask you, why did you allow Neville Ferguson to cast Haiti's vote to elect President Blatter? Could I ask you please, how much you expect to make from selling World Cup Tickets here? [to henchman muscling in] I'm not touching him. Following our encounter Mr Warner has issued a press release from his office here. It's headed: "Operation: Get Jack Warner." He claims to have unmasked a conspiracy between me, local reporter Lasana Liburd and the Trinidad Government. It says: "Mr Jennings went as far as attempting to physically obstruct me from taking the podium. His actions provoked a crowd of onlookers who sought to keep Mr Jennings from my path. I caution him to be less irresponsible in the future." Less irresponsible in the future? I don't remember being irresponsible, but I do remember this:

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/5076282.stm
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Cheers guys I'm a bit light on reading material I'll check the book out.
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England haven't won anything big in 41 years, and the premier league might be brilliant, but how many of the good players are English? Far less than half I reckon.
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Well, Warner is a fairly shady character, and while I share the sentiment that England's footballing prowess since WW 2 has often been wildly exaggerated, if that was the sole reason for awarding World Cups to countries, the US and Japan would certainly never have hosted the tournament.
The big issue here is FIFA's rotation policy. Europeans have been opposed to it from the start - in the past they often hosted every second World Cup, under consistent rotation policy it'd probably be every fourth or fifth - so a power struggle between European and non-European countries over this issue is clearly heating up. If the rotation policy is retained, then North and Central America would get the 2018 World Cup, the region Warner is in charge off. If the rotation policy is discarded and FIFA decides to go back to Europe, then England would be heavily favoured to win the hosting rights, so Warner seems to be using his FIFA position to undermine England's chances, although he clearly did not speak in any official FIFA capacity.
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England haven't won anything big in 41 years, and the premier league might be brilliant, but how many of the good players are English? Far less than half I reckon.
I fail to see how this is relevant, what has south africa won, what has USA or south korea/japan won. Its about the ability to host the event. and the ability to promte the game in your region. maybe a world cup in the uk would help build the youth talent so the premiership wouldnt have to rely on so many imports.
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UberGunner wrote:
England haven't won anything big in 41 years, and the premier league might be brilliant, but how many of the good players are English? Far less than half I reckon.

I fail to see how this is relevant, what has south africa won, what has USA or south korea/japan won. Its about the ability to host the event. and the ability to promte the game in your region. maybe a world cup in the uk would help build the youth talent so the premiership wouldnt have to rely on so many imports.


Fair point, but still, I don't like the English team so I don't want England to be able to host it. If any country from that area gets to host it I'd want it to be Ireland, but I don't know if they have good enough facilities.   
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Ireland? Dont make me laugh.

I dont know what this cock is blaberring on about, but if we're unpopular and an 'irritant', so we dont get to host world cups, I dont see the logic.

Germany held 2006, my god they are popular. I heard the Jews were jumping for joy along with all the other 200 nations they invaded and killed and tortured. Everyone loves Germany.
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Ireland are a good side, what would be wrong with them hosting it? If they have the facilities then there would be no difference between them hosting it and S. Korea and Japan co-hosting (which happened in 2002).
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I think the UK hosting the world cup world be great. Not England but the whole United Kingdom, have each country host group games with the quarters and semis at the major stadiums and finla at wembley. Id be there for sure.
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Ireland are a good side, what would be wrong with them hosting it? If they have the facilities then there would be no difference between them hosting it and S. Korea and Japan co-hosting (which happened in 2002).

You see whats wrong with your argument?
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England certainly have the facilities: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_stadia_by_capacity
With more on the way with Liverpool and possibly Everton building new ones.
 
Ireland sadly do not:
http://www.stadiumguide.com/ireland.htm and the roads would need upgrading as well.
 
UK would be good as a host but of course would not then include the Rep of Ireland.
 
Auckland and Dairy bought "Foul" before the match-looks good!
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Wolfben wrote:
Ireland are a good side, what would be wrong with them hosting it? If they have the facilities then there would be no difference between them hosting it and S. Korea and Japan co-hosting (which happened in 2002).

You see whats wrong with your argument?


There's only something wrong with my argument if Ireland haven't got the facilities, and nobody has yet showed me that they haven't.

Having read some of the later posts, it sounds like a good idea to have the World Cup held in Great Britain and Ireland with each country getting a group/s + some knock-out games.loyalgunner2007-08-12 21:20:17
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If South Africa are sttruggling to get the required facilities, do you really believe Ireland have the facilities? C'mon be realistic.

If it was held in GB, then realistically there'd be a couple of stadiums in Scotland (Ibrox + Celtic Park), Wales 1,Ireland have 1, Landsdowne Road which is used for Rugby, and theres heaps in England.

If the reason for not choosing England is because 'we arent popular in Europe' yet Germany hosted 2006, it makes a mockery of Fifa
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I think you'll find that Croke Park in Dublin could also be used. Holds 82000. Think a joint UK/Ireland bid would be a winner tho'.
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I think you'll find that Croke Park in Dublin could also be used. Holds 82000. Think a joint UK/Ireland bid would be a winner tho'.

Ok didnt know that. Still, 2 grounds isnt enough to hold a WC. I think the biggest stadium that is home to a football club is Cork City's ground holding something lie 9,000 and like a third is standing
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I agree, the only realistic way to do it would be a joint bid and hold games in Scotland, Ireland, Wales and England
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Yes, but would England want that? Its not as if they are lacking in stadiums and dont really gain anything from the rest of the nations being there
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Sadly, probably not. But, by the looks of things, if Mr Warner gets his way it might be the only way they'll have a sniff of hosting a World Cup Final
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I'm sure if England can't get it any other way then they wouldn't mind co-hosting. And I'm sure Ireland's got more than just Croke park - because where would they play all of their Gaelic football, Rugby, Football.
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I'm sure if England can't get it any other way then they wouldn't mind co-hosting. And I'm sure Ireland's got more than just Croke park - because where would they play all of their Gaelic football, Rugby, Football.


Gaelic Football/hurling - Croke Park

Football/rugby - Lansdowne Road

That's pretty much it.

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Auckland Jag wrote:
Sadly, probably not. But, by the looks of things, if Mr Warner gets his way it might be the only way they'll have a sniff of hosting a World Cup Final


Warner doesn't have anywhere near enough authority for his comments to be taken really seriously. Like I said in a previous post, it seems he is just trying to pile the pressure on to try to ensure 2018 World Cup is held in the CONCACAF region. I think it's a pretty safe bet that England will host the World Cup as soon as it goes back to Europe, without any joint bids with Ireland/Scotland/Wales. There's simply no incentive for the FA to go for something like that, given that England's got everything required to host a pretty good tournament.
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I'm sure if England can't get it any other way then they wouldn't mind co-hosting. And I'm sure Ireland's got more than just Croke park - because where would they play all of their Gaelic football, Rugby, Football.


Gaelic Football/hurling - Croke Park

Football/rugby - Lansdowne Road

That's pretty much it.



OK, in that case I'm wrong about having the world cup in Ireland.
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Wolfben wrote:

If South Africa are sttruggling to get the required facilities, do you really believe Ireland have the facilities? C'mon be realistic.

If it was held in GB, then realistically there'd be a couple of stadiums in Scotland (Ibrox + Celtic Park), Wales 1,Ireland have 1, Landsdowne Road which is used for Rugby, and theres heaps in England.

If the reason for not choosing England is because 'we arent popular in Europe' yet Germany hosted 2006, it makes a mockery of Fifa
 
 
...Hampden Park.... make that 3 buddy.

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