All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams
Please note. Not a defamation of Alex Rufer who i think had the makings of a good defensive midfielder in the ASB Premiership last season.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Nope definitely not Alex Ruther, but surly Brockie cant hold his place in the team either.
Well you'd think he would be on the bench behind Wood and Smeltz
Wasn't Brockie's only goal for NZ in that game against Serbia which got called off early? No, that was Rory Fallon; I just remembered it because the Serb commentator kept calling him Brooki.
History made at All Whites v Myanmar? First known flying of #RedPeak flag at international sporting event.
Kotahitanga. We are one.
Have I read this right Jeremy Brockie has only scored one goal in 47 internationals, how is this
possible?? Its not like we play against teams in Europe, most his games would be against
south pacific sides wouldnt it?
How can he still be in the team.
I would think most of those appearances are not up front or off the bench. It was only a few years ago he was playing left WB, did put in a few decent crosses:
Edit: His record still isn't great.
Looked at the Highlights of the Myanmar v Kuwait Game.
We have actually drawn with the Keystone Cops.
Almost completely different side. Only 3 players started both games.
Looked at the Highlights of the Myanmar v Kuwait Game.
We have actually drawn with the Keystone Cops.
Almost completely different side. Only 3 players started both games.
Yeah, they saved their strongest side for the friendly and not the WC qualifier.
:P
Not necessarily. This articles suggests that more of the U20s should be used. Perhaps the Kuwait game gave the coach the balls to bring through the next generation.
Right so we drew with Keystone Cops U20 side. Feel much better now.
Can someone get a message to Dale.... Anthony Hudson seems to have hacked his Yellow Fever account.
Also somewhat amusing that there has almost been zero blame of any players. Except for the predictable Brockie stuff.
Also somewhat amusing that there has almost been zero blame of any players. Except for the predictable Brockie stuff.
I think it's weird that we are so shark at football when we have such good participation rates. I know most kids stop playing as they get older but still, what the fudge.
Also somewhat amusing that there has almost been zero blame of any players. Except for the predictable Brockie stuff.
Please explain to me why a starting EPL CB with significant experience is launching 40 yard balls to 30 yards of vacant space and he is not even under pressure? Cause he is a shark footballer?
Did Hudson tell them to get it wide and lob in loopy crosses ala Lochhead and Bertos cause thats pretty much a lot of what we saw when the strengths of 2 of his key players in Rojas and Kosta are low crosses or running at players. Granted it was not them doing it but they went away from the skill set they have best to be utilised. Because they were coached to play that way. How many players were out of position that contributed to them having zero midfield towards the end.
You are usually spot on but I think you have to ask were the players poor or were they playing to very poor tactics that made them look poor.
Grumpy old bastard alert
This is the first time in about 7-8 years i'm not going to watch an All Whites game. I just have zero faith in the leadership and Hudson and if I wake up and they have scrapped a draw or lost Hudson should walk/be shoved.
The whole in ineligibility thing has me disillusioned with NZF.
I'm fairly certain the only reason we are playing this game is to fix Hudsons winless record as All Whites coach.
Oh dear....will Hapless Hudson ever win a game coaching any team?
Coaching the All Whites could prove his career highlight before slipping back into coaching non-league teams in England or obscure lower division sides in the USA.
Absolutely dire stuff.
Hudson needs a home game against a Pacific Island side - if his team doesn't perform in that, then cut him...
They would beat a Pacific Island team at home, wouldn't they? ......wouldn't they?......
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
Well according to Steve Sumner, Aaron Clapham and Jake Butler would solve our problems in midfield. Yawn.
I agree that we have picked too many average youngsters who will probably never reach professional ranks. It's almost a waste of time having them in the squad, clinging to the hope that they will dramatically improve one day.
Stefan Marinovic (GK), 2. Winston Reid (capt), 3. Thomas Doyle (26. Liam Higgins 84’) 4. Themi Tzimopoulos, 5. Michael Boxall, 6. Bill Tuiloma (10. Clayton Lewis 56’), 7. Kosta Barbarouses (19. Harshae Raniga 72’ – 24. Tim Payne 77’), 8. Michael McGlinchey, 9. Shane Smeltz, 11. Marco Rojas (21. Moses Dyer 84’), 18. Jeremy Brockie (23. Alex Rufer 72’)
Substitutes not used: 12. Max Crocombe (GK), 17. Sam Brotherton, 22. Logan Rogerson, 27. Te Atawhai Hudson-Wihongi
Hudson came along and talked a big game but is yet to deliver anything. I think we could be more lenient on him if things were moving in the right direction. If we lost to decent teams but were trying a new style of football then you could live without getting the results. However, it seems like Hudson is just playing the same tactics as Herbert but is just doing a sharkter job implementing them.
You have to keep in mind that if you sack Hudson, probably no one else wants the job. If you sack him, I don't think someone else can come in and lead us to the World Cup. I suppose that the flip side of that is that if we keep Hudson on things could get worse and some players could have their development stunted.
We need to be playing twice in the next window and picking our best squad available.
Also somewhat amusing that there has almost been zero blame of any players. Except for the predictable Brockie stuff.
You are usually spot on but I think you have to ask were the players poor or were they playing to very poor tactics that made them look poor.
Hudson came along and talked a big game but is yet to deliver anything. I think we could be more lenient on him if things were moving in the right direction. If we lost to decent teams but were trying a new style of football then you could live without getting the results. However, it seems like Hudson is just playing the same tactics as Herbert but is just doing a sharkter job implementing them.
You have to keep in mind that if you sack Hudson, probably no one else wants the job. If you sack him, I don't think someone else can come in and lead us to the World Cup. I suppose that the flip side of that is that if we keep Hudson on things could get worse and some players could have their development stunted.
We need to be playing twice in the next window and picking our best squad available.
You'd expect Ramon or Emblem to be available. What will happen though is that Ricki will come back as our most succesful coach. Happens all over the world.
Nah. Pretty confident that ship has sailed. Sailed to the Maldives in fact.
Best. GIF. Evah.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Hudson came along and talked a big game but is yet to deliver anything. I think we could be more lenient on him if things were moving in the right direction. If we lost to decent teams but were trying a new style of football then you could live without getting the results. However, it seems like Hudson is just playing the same tactics as Herbert but is just doing a sharkter job implementing them.
You have to keep in mind that if you sack Hudson, probably no one else wants the job. If you sack him, I don't think someone else can come in and lead us to the World Cup. I suppose that the flip side of that is that if we keep Hudson on things could get worse and some players could have their development stunted.
We need to be playing twice in the next window and picking our best squad available.
You'd expect Ramon or Emblem to be available. What will happen though is that Ricki will come back as our most succeful coach. Happens all over the world.
Emblen or Ramon would both get the job done better than Hudson I think and in fact, Emblen has form with way they played against SA and Japan.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Possibly the worst thing about the state of football in NZ at the moment is that it generates this sort of shark:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c...
This would turn the rest of the Oceania region into even more of a ghetto, but quite frankly who cares in the same way that nobody cared when Australia was allowed to leave. We aren't strong enough to prop anyone else up.
Yup, it's FIFA and Australia's fault that our football is such a shambles and they should screw over the rest of OFC to make it right.
Sure our qualifying path doesn't help but serving up dross like last night in friendlies against teams outside the world's top 150 is no way to state your case. Plus I'm pretty sure we managed to field ineligible players in Olympic qualifying all by ourselves.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Right so we drew with Keystone Cops U20 side. Feel much better now.
That the U20s beat 5-0 at the U20World Cup.
TBH it looked like a team who weren't together, and didn't know what the plan was.
When the U20 lads came on, they had been playing together and at least looked like a team and created some good chances.
Brockie is a coach killer. Flatters to deceive. Scores hat loads, but hasn't fired up front for the national team and probably didn't suit this formation. Though not his fault to be sure. Aerial balls were what we tried to do in the Solomons too. And we had Wood and Smith then. Same result. Low percentage play.
Can see how alignment was a good idea with the Olympics to go to. Not so much now. We want to win some games. Long ball was a definite fail. Think we should have been running at them with Marco and Kosta at the top of the box. That was when we looked dangerous and how we got the goal. Our passing was so off. Appallingly off.
Also somewhat amusing that there has almost been zero blame of any players. Except for the predictable Brockie stuff.
When you have no options to pass to and no team mates within 30 metres and 3 players closing you down...don't think Boxall or Doyle should be scapegoated. Doyle isn't supposed to be our playmaker right?
Hudson came along and talked a big game but is yet to deliver anything. I think we could be more lenient on him if things were moving in the right direction. If we lost to decent teams but were trying a new style of football then you could live without getting the results. However, it seems like Hudson is just playing the same tactics as Herbert but is just doing a sharkter job implementing them.
You have to keep in mind that if you sack Hudson, probably no one else wants the job. If you sack him, I don't think someone else can come in and lead us to the World Cup. I suppose that the flip side of that is that if we keep Hudson on things could get worse and some players could have their development stunted.
We need to be playing twice in the next window and picking our best squad available.
You'd expect Ramon or Emblem to be available. What will happen though is that Ricki will come back as our most succeful coach. Happens all over the world.
I'd be more then happy with Ramon or Emblin. Can't ever see Ricki coming back though as his not done a whole lot post the AWs that's stuck (eg India).
Any coach is walking into a complete mess. Hudson sure hasn't shown a determination to win games. Talk your pre-game tactics, fine. Make your plans.
But when you are 1-0 in Myanmar and the pitch isn't great, but you have a fistful of good players at your disposal, shut out the game!
Any coach is walking into a complete mess. Hudson sure hasn't shown a determination to win games. Talk your pre-game tactics, fine. Make your plans.
But when you are 1-0 in Myanmar and the pitch isn't great, but you have a fistful of good players at your disposal, shut out the game!
Should we need to shut out a game against Myanmar? I would have hoped that we could have beaten by at least 4 goals.
Any coach is walking into a complete mess. Hudson sure hasn't shown a determination to win games. Talk your pre-game tactics, fine. Make your plans.
But when you are 1-0 in Myanmar and the pitch isn't great, but you have a fistful of good players at your disposal, shut out the game!
Should we need to shut out a game against Myanmar? I would have hoped that we could have beaten by at least 4 goals.
Sorry, by that I meant win from there, however you do it. Don't play force back, especially if no one told Myanmar we were playing force back. (That's the game where you try to boot the ball further than the guys at the other end of the pitch)
That was absolute horse shark.
We had NOTHING going forward, we had so much bloody possession and created nothing with it.
So often when one of our players had the ball and would look up the rest of the team were just standing there, very little off the ball movement.
We had no fluidity going forward and were just static all over the park.
Hudson needs to re-think his selection policy, next thing we will have players from Paraparumu under 12's getting full caps.
Our players also need to stand up and take some responsibility for that horse shark too.
We are an absolute joke at the moment.
You look at our best eleven on paper and it looks decent, put them on the park and they play like they should be in Capital 7.
Fu ck this stupid game.
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Also somewhat amusing that there has almost been zero blame of any players. Except for the predictable Brockie stuff.
I assume that when a Premier League hero like Winston Reid is firing long balls out from right back, it's because he's been told to, not because he wants to.
Nah. Pretty confident that ship has sailed. Sailed to the Maldives in fact.
The Maldives will be underwater in 15 years time, and Ricki will be back.
On the news De Jong was saying its all part of the plan and we are building towards World Cup qualification not looking for easy wins. We only need to start winning at the nations cups which on the news they pointed out is only three international games away.
On the news De Jong was saying its all part of the plan and we are building towards World Cup qualification not looking for easy wins. We only need to start winning at the nations cups which on the news they pointed out is only three international games away.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Please note. Not a defamation of Alex Rufer who i think had the makings of a good defensive midfielder in the ASB Premiership last season.
Must be some other Alex Rufer. The only Alex Rufer I have seen plays up front in the "not a striker" role.
I think at very least after this display Hudson AT THE VERY VERY LEAST needs to come out infront of the media and explain exactly what his tactics were for this game, why it failed, and what he is going to do to ensure a performance like that never happens again. But I guarantee itll be another "Hey listen I take alot of positives from this performance"
I predict an ugly 1-1 draw
Shoulda stuck with the gut instinct
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Also somewhat amusing that there has almost been zero blame of any players. Except for the predictable Brockie stuff.
You are usually spot on but I think you have to ask were the players poor or were they playing to very poor tactics that made them look poor.
I would have more sympathy for the coaching if the selections weren't so inconsistent, the performances weren't so consistent(ly bad) and he hadn't talked such a huge game. There is a big difference between having great ideas and being able to get a group of players to implement them on the pitch - where is the high tempo/pressing game that he supposedly wanted to implement?
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