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ALL WHITES V BAHRAIN - Official 1st Leg T

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darkhorse wrote:

so what!! they dont hve to speak to media. when has media ever given the all whites a fair amount of coverage prior to this? so who gives a toss what media want. GO ALL WHITES>

There's no point playing a zero-sum game against someone with nothing to lose from the situation.

14/11/09

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dont know what yr on about!! darkhorse2009-10-08 22:19:07
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In this case there's nothing to gain from shunning the media, based upon a perception they've done few favours to NZ Football in the past.
 
No need for player interviews, if it's a real problem, but access to training and some of the staff would be good.
 
In saying all this, I read in articles recently that were interviews with players (Scott, Nelsen, Sigmund) so they're obviously not completely off limits!

14/11/09

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liverpoolfan1 wrote:
tigers wrote:
i think it is reasonable for a coach to decide that it is not what he wants for his players as part of their preparation for such an important game
 
having said that NZF would be then expected to explain this and provide other tour party options for the media to interview
 
the job of the players is to win this play-off
 
the job of NZF (in my view) is to promote the sport but not at the expense of missing out on SA
 
Tigers, those comments suggest that doing media interviews (or not doing them) 3-5 days out from the game will have a significant impact on whether the All Whites win and/or play well on Sunday.
 
Do you really believe that?
 
 
I don't know enough about sports' psychology to say for sure one way or another but i do think for those players who aren't used to this level of media attention and/or the pressures of a match of this importance - it could easily be a distraction 
 
i guess that nzf have thought through the issues (naive, i know, but it's far enough away from the xmas hols for them to be focused )
 
more importantly, if Ricki believes that (rightly or wrongly) he has my support in his current decision
 
i agree that better pre-match coverage would help viewership for away leg and possibly attendence on 14/11 (though the result from leg 1 might be the bigger factor)
 
it is possibly a bit of a catch -22 situation - i.e the players aren't used to intense media so let's shield them, which in turn means the media 'lose interest', which compounds the lack of player experience in responding to the media
 
but to summarise a 1% increase in our chances of winning is worth the loss of 50% of media air-time prior to this match i reckon (numbers obviously plucked out of thin air)
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I reckon the less that we/Bahrain know the better.

for us it adds to the excitement, the whole mystery behind formation and lineup makes me even more excited.

for Bahrain they will be bewildered as to what we are upto, and have really no idea what/who to expect come leg 1.

after Manama I'd expect that we will be going crazy media wise, to entice the public to get behind us. even the likes of $5 B&W scarfs for supporters.

Bring it on Bahrain!!!!It's Business Time!!!!
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clark007e wrote:
SiNZ wrote:
Hard News wrote:
4:15 build up.  4:30 game isn't it ?
 
Yes.
SS1 programming commences at 4:15am.
 
Replayed on SS2 at 9:30am and 9pm.
 
ESPN have the Italy-Ireland QC Qualifer live at 2am.
 
And SS3 has the U20 WC QFs live at 3:15am and 6:45am.
 
 


Any idea if the game will be in HD?
 
Not in HD according to the on-line Sky Guide. At least there's no HD suffix, like there is for some programmes.
SiNZ2009-10-08 23:14:17
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Just did a quick around a number of football and blogg sites ... seems you guys have done something near impossible... Australia is cheering for a NZ team.... 

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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Midfielder wrote:
Just did a quick around a number of football and blogg sites ... seems you guys have done something near impossible... Australia is cheering for a NZ team.... 


 
Never thought i'd see the day
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  wow next money will be growing on trees!!!!!!!! 
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Addicks wrote:
darkhorse wrote:

so what!! they dont hve to speak to media. when has media ever given the all whites a fair amount of coverage prior to this? so who gives a toss what media want. GO ALL WHITES>

There's no point playing a zero-sum game against someone with nothing to lose from the situation.
 
The AWs are oplaying a zero sum game against Bahrain.  Rightly or wrongly that's the one that they are focussing on
james dean2009-10-09 00:36:14

Normo's coming home

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From the NZ Herald:

There will be a special area at the stadium in Riffa for women supporters who attend the World Cup qualifier.

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Getting desperate now - has anyone UK based found a channel showing it?

Normo's coming home

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Just did a quick around a number of football and blogg sites ... seems you guys have done something near impossible... Australia is cheering for a NZ team.... 
 
 
Good job, there were heaps of Kiwis supporting the Ockers before and during WC 2006. Was at the Sports Cafe in Welly for the playoff game vs Uruguay and the place went mental when Aloisi scored the winning pen. Nice to hear we've got you aussies on our side :)
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Live on the Fox Soccer Channel in Canada. But you can't find TV coverage in the UK?Good luck.

 

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smittyz11 wrote:
  wow next money will be growing on trees!!!!!!!! 
 
the aussies don't need that, they just dig it out of the ground
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Hubminator wrote:
Just did a quick around a number of football and blogg sites ... seems you guys have done something near impossible... Australia is cheering for a NZ team.... 
 
 
Good job, there were heaps of Kiwis supporting the Ockers before and during WC 2006. Was at the Sports Cafe in Welly for the playoff game vs Uruguay and the place went mental when Aloisi scored the winning pen. Nice to hear we've got you aussies on our side :)
 
Mostly so there is a possibility of beating you in front of the rest of the world...
 
New Zealand football gets into the World Cup and it will be huge for soccer in New Zealand, including the Wellington Phoneix. Which inturn helps Australian football...
 
A World Cup entrance for New Zealand could be the stimulus for a second Kiwi A-League side into the future...
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Just done  a rematch on FM
 
Lost 1 nil to a 89th minute goal. Would take that espc away from home. Hopefully that's not a sign. Trying to get a home game now

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Ahhhh!!!! Soooooo excited!!! Come on New Zealand!! Got my NZ shirt on now and I'm not taking it off til after the game!! Come on!!
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El-Kun wrote:
Got my NZ shirt on now and I'm not taking it off til after the game!! Come on!!


Remind me not to stand next to you at Four Kings tomorrow night...
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. Meh, don't worry. Its not that far away now. And its not like I'm going to be running round sweating much in the next few days (apart from when Elliott smacks it into the top corner to given us a 1-0 win!)
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El-Kun wrote:
Got my NZ shirt on now and I'm not taking it off til after the game!! Come on!!
 
Haha me too!!!!
 
Tempted to break out into song here at Uni too.
Buffon II2009-10-09 09:54:46

Three for me, and two for them.

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. Wouldn't be a bad idea!! It'd be great to do that if you knew people would join in...You could get an epic chant going!
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Buffon II wrote:
El-Kun wrote:
Got my NZ shirt on now and I'm not taking it off til after the game!! Come on!!
 
Haha me too!!!!
 
Tempted to break out into song here at Uni too.
 
Do it man!
 
One shot for glory.........
 
Steve Sumner was extremely positive about our chances on radio sport last hour. Good to see.
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Seems the media blackout has ended, Miles and Tony Smith had one on ones with the boys this morning. Ricki told Miles than Killy, Smeltzy and Rory will play. Telfer giving us good props but refusing to believe Steve Sumner over his son when Sumner told him 0-0 would not be the ideal non-win result that a scored draw would be. Bles Telf but good on him for speaking the truth, biggest sporting event in NZ this year.
 
Getting very very nervous.

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I know I was surprised Telf was so into it! people bang him out, but really he does have an interest in alot of minor sports, unlike Deaker
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Go Radio Sport, right into it. Cant believe that they would be playing 3 strikers. Just never expected that at all. 

All Aboard the Phoenix/ All Whites Bandwagon!!

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Yeah- neither! Thought it'd be generally defensive and hope for a set-piece/counter attack goal.
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scoop wrote:
Go Radio Sport, right into it. Cant believe that they would be playing 3 strikers. Just never expected that at all. 
 
Crickey - Ricki is always reasonably conservative (and defensive minded). He's breaking with that to play 3 strikers. Major game to be experimenting with....
 
 Isn't this the time to be parking the bus up? I'd rather a 1-1 draw (as any AW supporter would) rather than lose 3-5. I'm getting nervous...
Brewer2009-10-09 11:39:04
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Brewer wrote:
scoop wrote:
Go Radio Sport, right into it. Cant believe that they would be playing 3 strikers. Just never expected that at all. 
 
Crickey - Ricki is always reasonably conservative (and defensive minded). He's breaking with that to play 3 strikers. Major game to be experimenting with....
 
 Isn't this the time to be parking the bus up? I'd rather a 1-1 draw (as any AW supporter would) rather than lose 3-5. I'm getting nervous...
 
And then win 2-0 at home.  No worries.
 
Wow, the YF front page is full of stories that weren't there yesterday...unprecedented.  Props to the Guardian for calling out the Bahrani media's overeaction to NZ comments.  Wish it was Saturday already!!
Addicks2009-10-09 11:43:48

14/11/09

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Fairfax and the Herald, and Radio Sport are going great guns with coverage.
 
Pity TV has been rubbish. Again, almost nothing last night on the news. Lazy and cheap (no camera crew in Bahrain).
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It's okay though.  They have coverage of 'netball max' in Manchester on TVNZ and TV3 have... well... just what do TV3 have without Gourdie ?

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Telfer again correctly made the point that if this was an Americas Cup regatta in Dubai then Tasker would be there. TV3 would have sent someone aswell.
 
But massive props to Fairfax and Radio Sport, don't think the Herald have anyone there but seems like a lot of their lifout today must have been about the AWs. Guess it helps there isn't a hell of a lot of high profile stuff on at the moment either.

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No McGlinchey? That would be a massive call

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yea but we cant play 11 in outfield??? plus that article cant spell lochhead. its with an h not with a k
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i reckon itl be 4 - 3 - 3 with locHhead slot back to defence but yea but that shows that we do have quite a bit of depth that a class player like mcglinchy cant make the starting 11 
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bopman wrote:
Seems the media blackout has ended, Miles and Tony Smith had one on ones with the boys this morning. Ricki told Miles than Killy, Smeltzy and Rory will play.
Getting very very nervous.
 
Sure hope this is just a rumour(playing 3 strikers) coz if they do it goes under the heading of SUICIDE....FFS this is an away leg in a WC qualifier. It is not a "lets go out there with all guns blazing" charity game.
 
I think this is all a smokescreen, that and the 5 across the back. Its just the usual sort of keep them guessing type of stuff that happens before the game.
 
One thing that I hope happens is that the NZ managers keep cool heads during the game. WE want Ricki and co to be calm and rational throughout the match. That means making the right subs at the right time and calling tactical changes when needed.
 
My call for the team selection would be 451. Siggy at right back, Browny and Elliot CM, bertos and mcCinchly wide mid.
 
To me the squad looks a litttle unbalanced...too many strikers and not enough midfield cover. If Elliot or brown get injured then Barron comes in.....but then who is left on the bench? A tough game like this you may need fresh legs in midfield later in the game.....you will only need more strikers if you are 3 goals down
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Agreed. I wonder if the writer of that article knows there can only be 10 outfield players on the pitch at a time?
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