All Whites v Socceroos | Thurs 22nd Sept | 10.00pm

carlind

Wusty Wab

It would be pretty disappointing if we were unable to beat Australia in any of these friendlies. I generally think we have more players standing out for the national team compared to Australia and a lot of their goals from their past few games have come from set-pieces. Won't underestimate them though, it's been a while Socceroos, bring it on!

 I have Australia as big favourites to be honest, especially at home, and the odds share that view; Australia at 1.50 vs NZ at 5.50. Australia's form isn't stellar, but they play much stronger opposition. Even still, the All Whites have only managed to win against OFC opposition this year, and have only managed to score one goal (a penalty) in the four non-OFC matches. On paper they are probably stronger too, and they're able to name a 31-man squad and still leave out players that would be nailed-on starters for us, like Rukavytsya, Jeggo, Holland, Kalik etc.

I agree, Australia will be big favourites. Their home record against us is pretty immaculate, out of both friendlies this is the one we're most likely to lose. It would be pretty awesome to spoil the party at Australia's last home game before they head off to a World Cup though.

Wusty Wab

It would be pretty disappointing if we were unable to beat Australia in any of these friendlies. I generally think we have more players standing out for the national team compared to Australia and a lot of their goals from their past couple of games have come from set-pieces. Won't underestimate them though, it's been a while Socceroos, bring it on!

How can you say that. None of Garbett, Cacace, Wood or Greive are currently starting for their clubs. Bell not much either. Reid is clubless. But all in a first choice AWs team. Sail didn't get his touted overseas move. Matt Ryan is in a different class.

Aussie are favourites, and they also have far deeper depth in their squad. There is no Cam Howieson in their 31.

But AWs are a chance esp at Eden Park. Also pissing down with rain currently in SE QLD. Will be a wet pitch.

coochiee

Wusty Wab

It would be pretty disappointing if we were unable to beat Australia in any of these friendlies. I generally think we have more players standing out for the national team compared to Australia and a lot of their goals from their past couple of games have come from set-pieces. Won't underestimate them though, it's been a while Socceroos, bring it on!

How can you say that. None of Garbett, Cacace, Wood or Greive are currently starting for their clubs. Bell not much either. Reid is clubless. But all in a first choice AWs team. Sail didn't get his touted overseas move. Matt Ryan is in a different class.

Aussie are favourites, and they also have far deeper depth in their squad. There is no Cam Howieson in their 31.

But AWs are a chance esp at Eden Park. Also pissing down with rain currently in SE QLD. Will be a wet pitch.

Yes I know I've made a very risky/controversial statement. Australia definitely have more depth and players getting regular starts for big clubs, but watching their last few games, I just don't think they have been very impressive, despite the fact they are heading off to a World Cup and are playing much tougher opposition. I'm sorry but that's just how I feel about it at the moment, doesn't change the fact they are still heavy favourites tonight. 

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Billy T has arrived.

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Our midfield, which should have been our strength is horribly depleted.

Imagine: Bell, Stamenic, Sarpreet, Thomas, Lewis, Rufer. Add Just to that too. 

Compare that to Elliot, out of retirement Vicelich, Andy Barron and Jeremy Christie. 

All the current guys were starting in midfield for professional clubs.

More games might mean a chance to see some of that talent play together. 

Edit:Geez even managed to leave out the guy who almost got us to the WC: Garbett. 

coochiee

lthomas20

coochiee

Watch the full press conference with Danny Hay and Chris Wood ahead of their match against the Socceroos on Thursday night 🎥

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Count how many times does "we need more games" or similar comes up in those 13 minutes. 

I hope NZF is listening to Woodsy and Hay. We have to keep momentum going and make the most of the generation we have coming through. 

Sounds like they are a bit pissed there are no friendlies organised for Nov, pre the WC.

I remember Hudson making similar complaints early in his reign.

But doesn’t it cost like $200k or something to assemble the AWs per window?? Similar with the Ferns?? NZF will have to watch their pennies a bit until hopefully grabbing $15-20M FIFA WC qualification cash in 2026. Acting like a MASH triage

Yet the Ferns still manage to play a sharkload of games? Which I am assuming is not cheap for NZF. 

Yes it's harder because teams want to play against the Ferns and hardly anyone wants to play the All Whites. But it's gotten ridiculous. Even since the Olympics, when the All Whites have been more active, we've gotten 7 friendly matches. The Football Ferns in that time have gotten 13 friendly matches in that time, and have hardly improved at all. 

Way I see it - NZF is skimping on AWs games but happy to fund heaps of Ferns games because they are a host team at the 2023 WWC and will be at the 2024 Olympics. But it's extremely frustrating when this has long been an issue and the All Whites now have a potential golden generation that's going to get pissed into the wind on a national team level because we're stuck in OFC and play hardly any games. 

A bit early but does anyone have a link for those of us outside of Oceania to watch?

Ugggh, you'd think with this clash tonight, and again at Eden Park on Sunday, that there would at least be some coverage of this in the evening sports news. You know, given it's only 3 hours until kick off.

I can't speak for 3 News (if someone can enlighten that would be great!) but there wasn't even a mention of it over on One. Zip, Zilch, Nada.

Pathetic. Bordering on disgusting.

Lots on the rugby though. This stupid bloody country. 🤬

YoungHe.\rt

Ugggh, you'd think with this clash tonight, and again at Eden Park on Sunday, that there would at least be some coverage of this in the evening sports news. You know, given it's only 3 hours until kick off.

I can't speak for 3 News (if someone can enlighten that would be great!) but there wasn't even a mention of it over on One. Zip, Zilch, Nada.

Pathetic. Bordering on disgusting.

Lots on the rugby though. This stupid bloody country. 🤬

I gave up on them the night before we played in the Confeds Cup opener against Russia... no coverage at all. 

lthomas20

YoungHe.\rt

Ugggh, you'd think with this clash tonight, and again at Eden Park on Sunday, that there would at least be some coverage of this in the evening sports news. You know, given it's only 3 hours until kick off.

I can't speak for 3 News (if someone can enlighten that would be great!) but there wasn't even a mention of it over on One. Zip, Zilch, Nada.

Pathetic. Bordering on disgusting.

Lots on the rugby though. This stupid bloody country. 🤬

I gave up on them the night before we played in the Confeds Cup opener against Russia... no coverage at all. 

I have emailed Three News berating them for not covering it and reminding them that Football is now much bigger than Rugby in terms of participation.
Also why would they report on a Netball game that was a farce as some great win.
NZ Football has a role to play ensuring that Three News is supplied with stories. But then again this may be asking too much as it is NZ Football.

whatever

lthomas20

YoungHe.\rt

Ugggh, you'd think with this clash tonight, and again at Eden Park on Sunday, that there would at least be some coverage of this in the evening sports news. You know, given it's only 3 hours until kick off.

I can't speak for 3 News (if someone can enlighten that would be great!) but there wasn't even a mention of it over on One. Zip, Zilch, Nada.

Pathetic. Bordering on disgusting.

Lots on the rugby though. This stupid bloody country. 🤬

I gave up on them the night before we played in the Confeds Cup opener against Russia... no coverage at all. 

I have emailed Three News berating them for not covering it and reminding them that Football is now much bigger than Rugby in terms of participation.
Also why would they report on a Netball game that was a farce as some great win.
NZ Football has a role to play ensuring that Three News is supplied with stories. But then again this may be asking too much as it is NZ Football.

I'm giving up on One after this evening. Fatman Saville can piss right off with his love of egg ball.
To be fair, if I want to really know what's going on with football I'm straight on here, or keeping an eye on Rollo or Voerman over on twitter.

How hard is it in a country like ours to cover a matchup of New Zealand v Australia?

It could be an egg and farken spoon race and it should arouse that competitive trait and coverage that makes this rivalry so great.

Piss poor all round, and a definite missed opportunity to at least get some attention on the All Whites before returning to Auckland over the coming days.

If it makes you feel any better, no coverage on channel 7,10 or 9 in Australia either.. it’s AFL grand final on Saturday and NRL prelims this weekend, not to mention the womens basketball World Cup in Sydney and the international cycling World Cup, which are obviously much more important to comment on then this game 

YoungHe.\rt

whatever

lthomas20

YoungHe.\rt

Ugggh, you'd think with this clash tonight, and again at Eden Park on Sunday, that there would at least be some coverage of this in the evening sports news. You know, given it's only 3 hours until kick off.

I can't speak for 3 News (if someone can enlighten that would be great!) but there wasn't even a mention of it over on One. Zip, Zilch, Nada.

Pathetic. Bordering on disgusting.

Lots on the rugby though. This stupid bloody country. 🤬

I gave up on them the night before we played in the Confeds Cup opener against Russia... no coverage at all. 

I have emailed Three News berating them for not covering it and reminding them that Football is now much bigger than Rugby in terms of participation.
Also why would they report on a Netball game that was a farce as some great win.
NZ Football has a role to play ensuring that Three News is supplied with stories. But then again this may be asking too much as it is NZ Football.

I'm giving up on One after this evening. Fatman Saville can piss right off with his love of egg ball.
To be fair, if I want to really know what's going on with football I'm straight on here, or keeping an eye on Rollo or Voerman over on twitter.

How hard is it in a country like ours to cover a matchup of New Zealand v Australia?

It could be an egg and farken spoon race and it should arouse that competitive trait and coverage that makes this rivalry so great.

Piss poor all round, and a definite missed opportunity to at least get some attention on the All Whites before returning to Auckland over the coming days.

Marto

A bit early but does anyone have a link for those of us outside of Oceania to watch?

Like most major football in Oz these days, it's available for free for those outside of Australasia on the My Football channel provided by the FFA:
https://www.myfootball.com.au/news/how-watch-socceroos-vs-new-zealand

Pretty strong looking Aussie line up.

After the Costa Rica game I think my exact words were "Football is a joke, I'm never watching it ever again".

Yet here we are, I'm really looking forward to this game.

Fascinating team sheet for All Whites.
Winston Reid not starting.
Chris Wood captain.
Nice mix of youth & experience & plenty of cavalry on the bench.
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5-3-2, turning to a 3-5-2 in transition/on attack.

It's getting close now. 
Come on you All Whites! ⚪⚫

Ranix

Pretty strong looking Aussie line up.

 Doesn't look amazing tbh. Definitely beatable. 

Ninja

Ranix

Pretty strong looking Aussie line up.

 Doesn't look amazing tbh. Definitely beatable. 

Arnold not mixing it up to much though for this game. Plenty of players there with lots of international experience.

starting: Oli Sail, Dane Ingham, Michaell Boxall, Tim Payne, Nando Pijanker, Liberato Cacace, Joe Bell, Matt Garbett, Elijah Just, Chris Wood (c), Andre de Jong 

Reid on the bench, maybe saving him for Aucks...

Ranix

Ninja

Ranix

Pretty strong looking Aussie line up.

 Doesn't look amazing tbh. Definitely beatable. 

Arnold not mixing it up to much though for this game. Plenty of players there with lots of international experience.

I mean, in terms of current clubs of their starting 11: 
-------------------Copenhagen--------------------
Al-Wakrah-----Dundee United-----Columbus Crew---Brescia
Celtic---------------St.Pauli----------Hellas Verona
Cadiz-------------Hibernian-----------Cerezo Osaka

Probably not too much disparity with our 11 on paper.

It is live on TV in OZ. Both games on channel 10

Nixieboys222

If it makes you feel any better, no coverage on channel 7,10 or 9 in Australia either.. it’s AFL grand final on Saturday and NRL prelims this weekend, not to mention the womens basketball World Cup in Sydney and the international cycling World Cup, which are obviously much more important to comment on then this game 

YoungHe.\rt

whatever

lthomas20

YoungHe.\rt

Ugggh, you'd think with this clash tonight, and again at Eden Park on Sunday, that there would at least be some coverage of this in the evening sports news. You know, given it's only 3 hours until kick off.

I can't speak for 3 News (if someone can enlighten that would be great!) but there wasn't even a mention of it over on One. Zip, Zilch, Nada.

Pathetic. Bordering on disgusting.

Lots on the rugby though. This stupid bloody country. 🤬

I gave up on them the night before we played in the Confeds Cup opener against Russia... no coverage at all. 

I have emailed Three News berating them for not covering it and reminding them that Football is now much bigger than Rugby in terms of participation.
Also why would they report on a Netball game that was a farce as some great win.
NZ Football has a role to play ensuring that Three News is supplied with stories. But then again this may be asking too much as it is NZ Football.

I'm giving up on One after this evening. Fatman Saville can piss right off with his love of egg ball.
To be fair, if I want to really know what's going on with football I'm straight on here, or keeping an eye on Rollo or Voerman over on twitter.

How hard is it in a country like ours to cover a matchup of New Zealand v Australia?

It could be an egg and farken spoon race and it should arouse that competitive trait and coverage that makes this rivalry so great.

Piss poor all round, and a definite missed opportunity to at least get some attention on the All Whites before returning to Auckland over the coming days.

Looks like my prediction that Payne will never play for the AWs after crapping it vs Costa Rica hasn't come true.....

A less crude team sheet for the boys.

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Ninja

Ranix

Ninja

Ranix

Pretty strong looking Aussie line up.

 Doesn't look amazing tbh. Definitely beatable. 

Arnold not mixing it up to much though for this game. Plenty of players there with lots of international experience.

I mean, in terms of current clubs of their starting 11: 
-------------------Copenhagen--------------------
Al-Wakrah-----Dundee United-----Columbus Crew---Brescia
Celtic---------------St.Pauli----------Hellas Verona
Cadiz-------------Hibernian-----------Cerezo Osaka

Fair enough.
We have 3 domestic players in our starting XI though. (A league)
Compared to there zero. 
If that means anything.

Anyone got a stream link?

De Jong over Waine..

wilbaker

De Jong over Waine..

I guess De Jong is in season. So should be match fit.
Waine still pre-season.

Big Pete 65

Marto

A bit early but does anyone have a link for those of us outside of Oceania to watch?

Like most major football in Oz these days, it's available for free for those outside of Australasia on the My Football channel provided by the FFA:
https://www.myfootball.com.au/news/how-watch-socceroos-vs-new-zealand

Thanks so much for that Big Pete.  Can't this/thank you enough!

13 minutes to go, very excited about this game, regardless of result! looks like a decent crowd.

Those nz football zip up jackets look fudging tidy...

Interesting reading that our national football body was founded well before Australia's?

Rock Hopper

Those nz football zip up jackets look fudging tidy...

Supposed the new shirts are on sale at Eden Park game, while they are a bit boring, I will still be getting one for sure.

3-1 AWs. Cmon lads

Thoughts on this lineup?

What's this hiatus chat?

Damn, that was a bad miss

Oh bruh..... de Jong... bro...

Rock Hopper

Oh bruh..... de Jong... bro...

De Jong is he really to this level?