Every interview Baz has he seems likeable but he never comes across as someone who understands the tactical intricacies of the game. Always just words like 'tempo' 'intensity' 'passion' etc
All Whites vs Egypt | Mon 22nd June | 1:00pm (NZT) | BC Place, Vancouver
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coochiee wrote:
Good point, but we know that her NZ sabbatical is all due to Dronegate.
The Ferns job would be a huge retrograde step from taking Canada to Olympics gold.
Short odds Priestman is off to coach in one of the top European leagues next. Being a Brit, you'd think the WSL.
She's been quite public about being well settled in NZ with her special needs child. Maybe she does go, but it wouldn't surprise me to see her stay in NZ medium-term at least, while her partner is running the academy and their child is primary school aged - stability and autism go hand in hand.
I think there's probably room in the women's game still to share the Ferns/Nix jobs but I doubt NZF would be interested, there are Intl window clashes to consider. Still, clearly we need to do better than Mayne.
I think there's probably room in the women's game still to share the Ferns/Nix jobs but I doubt NZF would be interested, there are Intl window clashes to consider. Still, clearly we need to do better than Mayne.
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That’s a very authoritative ‘Wrong’ Cooch.
We didn’t get our full complement of subs until the 85th minute. By which time it certainly was 3-1. And we didn’t regain our momentum until then.
Bindon helped, but not just by himself.
We hadn’t been attacking most of the first half, the second half similarly was mostly sitting back and taking wave after wave of attack. We played them into confidence. When they were 1-0 down and couldn’t hit the side of the barn they were feeling the pressure.
If we had the ball halfway up the park they aren’t scoring and we have less need for aerial defense.
And I was just watching the game. The best chance created before the subs was by McCowatt. It seemed to me watching live that McCowatt was the one getting on the ball and driving forward after the goal.
What cost us was not the stomp or the poor officiating, it was the reaction to it. A familiar one from the Nix’s season for the first goal and once the wall was breached their belief was sky high.
The starting team rallied against Iran, but were exhausted mentally and physically today.
We didn’t get our full complement of subs until the 85th minute. By which time it certainly was 3-1. And we didn’t regain our momentum until then.
Bindon helped, but not just by himself.
We hadn’t been attacking most of the first half, the second half similarly was mostly sitting back and taking wave after wave of attack. We played them into confidence. When they were 1-0 down and couldn’t hit the side of the barn they were feeling the pressure.
If we had the ball halfway up the park they aren’t scoring and we have less need for aerial defense.
And I was just watching the game. The best chance created before the subs was by McCowatt. It seemed to me watching live that McCowatt was the one getting on the ball and driving forward after the goal.
What cost us was not the stomp or the poor officiating, it was the reaction to it. A familiar one from the Nix’s season for the first goal and once the wall was breached their belief was sky high.
The starting team rallied against Iran, but were exhausted mentally and physically today.
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Didn't know her child was autistic. Yes understandably then some stability is a priority.
NZF and the Nix, job/cost sharing makes some sense. Mayne is taking the Ferns nowhere.
As long as we are competitive against Belgium (I doubt we get a result), I'd sort of be happy to give Baze another 18 months until the end of 2027. Of course you do a full post WC review, get lots of player feedback.
It's just that I don't think the AWs gaffer role is going to attract many quality candidates until the WC actually comes into focus. That will happen from 2028. There could be a higher class of applicant floating around. Of course if Pragnell can get the AWs into say the 2027 Gold Cup that changes somewhat.
Being the affable guy he is I reckon Bazeley would even agree to effectively being a locum until 2028. NZF could even approach Des Buckingham in advance and ask him would be be keen on a 2 year contract starting mid 2028 to the 2030 WC. I think in his heart Des would love to coach at a WC, especially reconnecting with the large cohort he had at the U20 WC in 2019. He'd know how to coach against an Arab nation after his time in Saudi!
I think that yes there is some real value in a coach who has coached around the international football traps, and is streetwise to some of the issues that arise at tourneys like the World Cup. Managing referees, preparing players for all eventualities on the pitch etc. But then those coaches don't come cheap.
NZF and the Nix, job/cost sharing makes some sense. Mayne is taking the Ferns nowhere.
As long as we are competitive against Belgium (I doubt we get a result), I'd sort of be happy to give Baze another 18 months until the end of 2027. Of course you do a full post WC review, get lots of player feedback.
It's just that I don't think the AWs gaffer role is going to attract many quality candidates until the WC actually comes into focus. That will happen from 2028. There could be a higher class of applicant floating around. Of course if Pragnell can get the AWs into say the 2027 Gold Cup that changes somewhat.
Being the affable guy he is I reckon Bazeley would even agree to effectively being a locum until 2028. NZF could even approach Des Buckingham in advance and ask him would be be keen on a 2 year contract starting mid 2028 to the 2030 WC. I think in his heart Des would love to coach at a WC, especially reconnecting with the large cohort he had at the U20 WC in 2019. He'd know how to coach against an Arab nation after his time in Saudi!
I think that yes there is some real value in a coach who has coached around the international football traps, and is streetwise to some of the issues that arise at tourneys like the World Cup. Managing referees, preparing players for all eventualities on the pitch etc. But then those coaches don't come cheap.
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Ufuk Talay was quite open about his interest in job sharing the Nix and AWs and seemed disappointed it was a no-go.
Considering this was pre-Auckland FC the issue of "coach impartiality" was not in the way.
A decent quality coach would either need a side gig for most of his tenure, or only come in late in the piece before the WC finals, much like Australia did in the days gone by with a whole raft of Dutch coaches.
Considering this was pre-Auckland FC the issue of "coach impartiality" was not in the way.
A decent quality coach would either need a side gig for most of his tenure, or only come in late in the piece before the WC finals, much like Australia did in the days gone by with a whole raft of Dutch coaches.
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Job sharing the AWs role, aka Ricki a big no these days.
Ricki's preparation for the Mexico WC playoffs in 2013 was awful, in large part because he was still coaching the Nix days before departing for Mexico City.
Ricki's preparation for the Mexico WC playoffs in 2013 was awful, in large part because he was still coaching the Nix days before departing for Mexico City.
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martinb wrote:
That’s a very authoritative ‘Wrong’ Cooch.
We didn’t get our full complement of subs until the 85th minute. By which time it certainly was 3-1. And we didn’t regain our momentum until then.
Bindon helped, but not just by himself.
We hadn’t been attacking most of the first half, the second half similarly was mostly sitting back and taking wave after wave of attack. We played them into confidence. When they were 1-0 down and couldn’t hit the side of the barn they were feeling the pressure.
If we had the ball halfway up the park they aren’t scoring and we have less need for aerial defense.
And I was just watching the game. The best chance created before the subs was by McCowatt. It seemed to me watching live that McCowatt was the one getting on the ball and driving forward after the goal.
What cost us was not the stomp or the poor officiating, it was the reaction to it. A familiar one from the Nix’s season for the first goal and once the wall was breached their belief was sky high.
The starting team rallied against Iran, but were exhausted mentally and physically today.
Technically I don't think we used the full complement of subs. Once Egypt used a concussion sub, we were allowed one more, although admittedly that occured past the 90 minute mark.
On the timing of subs issue, with 5 subs / 3 windows, I think you need to take a look at rugby approach, where they are planning to replace props/hookers/halfbacks after 50 minutes in order to make use of the full resources of the full 23 man playing group. So with our preferred 4-2-3-1, tell the 3 (singh, just, mccowatt) they are running for 45 minutes plus 15 minutes in the second half, leave nothing in the tank, sub them off (even if on hattrick etc) at 60 minute mark and put Randall, Old, Thomas to run for 30 minutes. Problem is that our fullbacks are doing a lot of running and so both have need replacing as well, which does not leave a sub spare for injury.
On the timing of subs issue, with 5 subs / 3 windows, I think you need to take a look at rugby approach, where they are planning to replace props/hookers/halfbacks after 50 minutes in order to make use of the full resources of the full 23 man playing group. So with our preferred 4-2-3-1, tell the 3 (singh, just, mccowatt) they are running for 45 minutes plus 15 minutes in the second half, leave nothing in the tank, sub them off (even if on hattrick etc) at 60 minute mark and put Randall, Old, Thomas to run for 30 minutes. Problem is that our fullbacks are doing a lot of running and so both have need replacing as well, which does not leave a sub spare for injury.
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martinb wrote:
That’s a very authoritative ‘Wrong’ Cooch.
We didn’t get our full complement of subs until the 85th minute. By which time it certainly was 3-1. And we didn’t regain our momentum until then.
Bindon helped, but not just by himself.
We hadn’t been attacking most of the first half, the second half similarly was mostly sitting back and taking wave after wave of attack. We played them into confidence. When they were 1-0 down and couldn’t hit the side of the barn they were feeling the pressure.
If we had the ball halfway up the park they aren’t scoring and we have less need for aerial defense.
And I was just watching the game. The best chance created before the subs was by McCowatt. It seemed to me watching live that McCowatt was the one getting on the ball and driving forward after the goal.
What cost us was not the stomp or the poor officiating, it was the reaction to it. A familiar one from the Nix’s season for the first goal and once the wall was breached their belief was sky high.
The starting team rallied against Iran, but were exhausted mentally and physically today.
You said the subs were made at 3-1. The only subs made post their 3rd goal were Bindon for Payne and FDV for Just.
Tyler B could yes have come on earlier to shore up the defence. It was surprising Payne played 85 mins, and it may have been physical/mental fatigue that saw Trezeguet sneak in ahead of him.
But I don't know if Singh coming off earlier changes things much.
The tide started turning when Wood wasn't getting so many headers/chest downs, and we weren't getting the 2nd balls any more. Crocs long balls weren't now all hitting Wood. We were getting starved of possession. The pushed Marmoush wider at HT and it worked.
After their first goal, we had a good strong period around 60-65 mins.
But then Old gets stamped, lies on the ground in shock, they take the quick throw, some of our players are too busy gesticulating with the ref whilst running back, and bang they go 2-1 up at 67 mins. Maybe immediately after that Sarpreet & Libby should have been dragged, but they were off well before their 3rd goal.
We did have some late game momentum but that was as much them going defensive (back 3/5?) and letting us have the ball. Salah off.
None of Thomas, Randall or Old had much effect on the game when they came on. Randall with a pretty simple task to force a corner, but somehow the ball came off him for a goal kick. Bindon easily the best of the subs and maybe lubbering FDV 2nd to that, with his dangerous corners and crosses.
Tyler B could yes have come on earlier to shore up the defence. It was surprising Payne played 85 mins, and it may have been physical/mental fatigue that saw Trezeguet sneak in ahead of him.
But I don't know if Singh coming off earlier changes things much.
The tide started turning when Wood wasn't getting so many headers/chest downs, and we weren't getting the 2nd balls any more. Crocs long balls weren't now all hitting Wood. We were getting starved of possession. The pushed Marmoush wider at HT and it worked.
After their first goal, we had a good strong period around 60-65 mins.
But then Old gets stamped, lies on the ground in shock, they take the quick throw, some of our players are too busy gesticulating with the ref whilst running back, and bang they go 2-1 up at 67 mins. Maybe immediately after that Sarpreet & Libby should have been dragged, but they were off well before their 3rd goal.
We did have some late game momentum but that was as much them going defensive (back 3/5?) and letting us have the ball. Salah off.
None of Thomas, Randall or Old had much effect on the game when they came on. Randall with a pretty simple task to force a corner, but somehow the ball came off him for a goal kick. Bindon easily the best of the subs and maybe lubbering FDV 2nd to that, with his dangerous corners and crosses.
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AV has been reading the game thread.
I think Paulsen & Bindon are also in consideration to start.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360996469/should-all-whites-have-made-changes-earlier-their-fifa-world-cup-loss-egypt
Bazeley didn’t turn to his bench until the 66th minute, after the lead his side held for 43 minutes had been erased, when he introduced Old, who soon found himself back on the sideline waiting for a pair of torn and bloody shorts to be replaced.
I think Paulsen & Bindon are also in consideration to start.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360996469/should-all-whites-have-made-changes-earlier-their-fifa-world-cup-loss-egypt
Bazeley didn’t turn to his bench until the 66th minute, after the lead his side held for 43 minutes had been erased, when he introduced Old, who soon found himself back on the sideline waiting for a pair of torn and bloody shorts to be replaced.
Old came on for McCowatt, with two more changes following in the 76th minute – Jesse Randall and Ryan Thomas for Liberato Cacace and Sarpreet Singh – and the final two following in the 85th – Tyler Bindon and Francis de Vries for Eli Just and Tim Payne.
Bazeley was asked about whether any of them could have been made sooner in his post-match press conference and said: “We talked about it at halftime.
“We knew backing up [our first half performance] was going to be difficult, but we looked at it at halftime. We spoke to the players and the medical department and everybody was fine.
“We were doing so well, so it's a difficult one to predict – that we wouldn’t be able to replicate the first half performance.
“I think you'll see that we reacted pretty quickly and tried to get some help on the left side with Oldie defensively, with their right back pushing right on. Then by how we got players on to try to get back in the game, in regard to Ryan and Jesse coming on.
“I think we made changes when we could. Who knows, if we made them earlier, maybe we would have been able to change it, but I think when you look at the first-half performance, the players on the pitch were doing really well, so well it would be hard to take them off.
“We made changes pretty early.”
“We made changes pretty early.”
The question is whether changes could have been made proactively, before Zico’s equaliser, instead of reactively after it, and whether more could have been made immediately after the scores were levelled.
At the time, early from the second half, watching from the media tribunes, it certainly felt as though fresh legs in midfield – Thomas – and pace on the counter in attack – Old and Randall – would have been useful.
They were the first three men brought on, but in hindsight, the timing of their introductions does feel like it was slightly too late.
Captain Chris Wood was asked by Stuff after the match if fresher legs were needed sooner and replied: “Not necessarily.
“I think we just needed to do better in the moment to weather the storm. This is international football and it's good sides [we’re up against] every single time we play.
“We just have to weather the storm better. If we do better on their first goal, I think we can get ourselves back into the game, but that's how games go.”
Bazeley stuck with the same starting XI against Egypt that began the 2-2 draw with Iran the All Whites had in their first group G match in Los Angeles.
With just four days before their last match against Belgium – one for recovery, one off and two for training – he is more likely to make changes this time around, with Old, Thomas and Randall all likely to come into consideration to start.
The match at 8pm Friday local time in Vancouver (3pm Saturday afternoon NZ time) is effectively a must-win match for both teams with regard to making the knockout stage.
World No 10 Belgium have had two draws so far – coming from behind to earn a point from a 1-1 stalemate with Egypt, then hanging on with 10 men in a 0-0 draw with Iran.
The All Whites have never beaten an opponent ranked that high in the world by FIFA.
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Randall starting would be an error, he's just not at the level of the other options. Thomas in for Singh, both McCowatt and Just deserve to keep their starting spot.
Not that Singh has been bad, he wasn't as involved vs Egypt as he was vs Iran but he's only got 45-50 useful minutes in him so he's probably a better game chasing option.
Not that Singh has been bad, he wasn't as involved vs Egypt as he was vs Iran but he's only got 45-50 useful minutes in him so he's probably a better game chasing option.
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I think playing with Randall from the start would frustrate Wood. Jesse taking the wrong option, one touch too many and losing the ball.
We saw the Woodsman give Just a bit of a broadside for taking the shot, when not trying the pass across goal to his captain. I fear our captain is starting to feel the burden of never scoring in a really major game for the AWs.
It could be worse with inexperienced Randall on the park, and yes Just and McCowatt have for the most part done well.
We might retain possession more with Thomas starting but won't gain much in attack. His goals/assist record at Zwolle was very low this season. Against Egypt, Thomas was a bit free down the right late on, but rather than try a centring cross or pass into the box when we needed a goal, conservatively fed it back infield with a short pass. That's more his game nowadays.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360996626/mr-brightside-treacle-and-wrong-chris-wood-kiwi-fans-view-egypt-blowout
Like a small boy with a frisky Great Dane, we struggled to hold on to the lead.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360996456/finn-surmans-dream-world-cup-goal-undone-egypt-strikes-back
We saw the Woodsman give Just a bit of a broadside for taking the shot, when not trying the pass across goal to his captain. I fear our captain is starting to feel the burden of never scoring in a really major game for the AWs.
It could be worse with inexperienced Randall on the park, and yes Just and McCowatt have for the most part done well.
We might retain possession more with Thomas starting but won't gain much in attack. His goals/assist record at Zwolle was very low this season. Against Egypt, Thomas was a bit free down the right late on, but rather than try a centring cross or pass into the box when we needed a goal, conservatively fed it back infield with a short pass. That's more his game nowadays.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360996626/mr-brightside-treacle-and-wrong-chris-wood-kiwi-fans-view-egypt-blowout
Like a small boy with a frisky Great Dane, we struggled to hold on to the lead.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360996456/finn-surmans-dream-world-cup-goal-undone-egypt-strikes-back
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That also suggests that the guys who were spent didn’t want to come off and that perhaps Bazeley deferred to their opinion, rather than fully refresh the team.
The fight back against Iran was a good one, but we were mentally cooked before and after Egypt scored, against the crowd and the occasion. And a fair few were physically done too.
So the performance against Belgium will define our cup.
We’ve attacked, we’ve played 4 at the back, but the twenty minute period of getting a shellacking from Egypt is strong now.
The good news is maybe the Belgium support won’t be so numerous or so unconditional, given the supporter’s previous criticisms of their team.
Interesting call on Woodsy. I think the Iran game is the best I’ve seen from him against us, both magical goals.
Against Egypt he got two or three balls floated in, but I think even if he’d been more aggressive in attacking the ball the ref would’ve protected the keeper. He’s in a wee scoring dip since coming back for Forest too, certainly compared to his two better seasons for them.
Interesting to add a few things together- the wanting the ball from Eli, choosing to take that free kick when it’s not something we’ve seen a lot from him and how much he was fired up and was talking passion and belief into everyone at the start of the Iran game.
His goals at club are headers, usually not him alone against 4 plus the keeper, which is how we’ve been sending him crosses…but he also does well linking and finishing counters. The purest Wood goal we’ve seen is that lay off for Eli. Fast ball and player movement, making space for someone to shoot before the keeper can get properly set for preference!
There’s been a couple of times he’s been caught between wanting to try to turn and shoot and laying off, when the defenders have been tighter and the options not as good as Eli against Iran.
As as well, we were up against a team featuring Mo Salah. Even a brilliant piece of play, as we saw with McCowatt and Stamenic doesn’t guarantee a goal. Maybe Woodsy needs Bayliss and Randall, lots of shooting, a bit of chaos and disorder and a loose ball or rebound to pounce on and put away.
And the best awareness in the box if he wants a square ball is probably Ben Waine. Though I doubt we’ll see him, but he’s had that knockout success this season!
The fight back against Iran was a good one, but we were mentally cooked before and after Egypt scored, against the crowd and the occasion. And a fair few were physically done too.
So the performance against Belgium will define our cup.
We’ve attacked, we’ve played 4 at the back, but the twenty minute period of getting a shellacking from Egypt is strong now.
The good news is maybe the Belgium support won’t be so numerous or so unconditional, given the supporter’s previous criticisms of their team.
Interesting call on Woodsy. I think the Iran game is the best I’ve seen from him against us, both magical goals.
Against Egypt he got two or three balls floated in, but I think even if he’d been more aggressive in attacking the ball the ref would’ve protected the keeper. He’s in a wee scoring dip since coming back for Forest too, certainly compared to his two better seasons for them.
Interesting to add a few things together- the wanting the ball from Eli, choosing to take that free kick when it’s not something we’ve seen a lot from him and how much he was fired up and was talking passion and belief into everyone at the start of the Iran game.
His goals at club are headers, usually not him alone against 4 plus the keeper, which is how we’ve been sending him crosses…but he also does well linking and finishing counters. The purest Wood goal we’ve seen is that lay off for Eli. Fast ball and player movement, making space for someone to shoot before the keeper can get properly set for preference!
There’s been a couple of times he’s been caught between wanting to try to turn and shoot and laying off, when the defenders have been tighter and the options not as good as Eli against Iran.
As as well, we were up against a team featuring Mo Salah. Even a brilliant piece of play, as we saw with McCowatt and Stamenic doesn’t guarantee a goal. Maybe Woodsy needs Bayliss and Randall, lots of shooting, a bit of chaos and disorder and a loose ball or rebound to pounce on and put away.
And the best awareness in the box if he wants a square ball is probably Ben Waine. Though I doubt we’ll see him, but he’s had that knockout success this season!
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AucklandPhoenix wrote:
The fact Baz said “we made changes preety early”
At best sums up his coaching naivety and at worst the BS he spins.
One more game and we can put Bazball to bed.
you can also say that for the England test team (if they make Stokes captain and lose against us).
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As someone who's been at our last 4 games, I've noticed that our subs have been a lot later then the other teams (Egypt made a change before the end of the first half for instance) and we are still incredibly poor at defending crosses (4 goals in 4 games, simply not good enough). Belgium will look to cross as its a sure-fire way to score against us.
Crocs, Singh and Randall have not been good enough. Why is Randall even getting on ahead of Waine/Kosta, he's provided zip in his cameos.
AP needs to start the last game and Singh come off the bench and why does Callum Mc. score so many goals at club level yet never looks like scoring in white?
Being at the front of the March in Vancouver holding the flying kiwi banner was something else!
Crocs, Singh and Randall have not been good enough. Why is Randall even getting on ahead of Waine/Kosta, he's provided zip in his cameos.
AP needs to start the last game and Singh come off the bench and why does Callum Mc. score so many goals at club level yet never looks like scoring in white?
Being at the front of the March in Vancouver holding the flying kiwi banner was something else!
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That Egyptian first half sub was due to an injury. Other teams expect to beat the lowest ranked team at the WC, so when we take a lead they are always likely to make the first change, as we are happy with things and they are not
Only an excellent reflex save by the Pharaohs keeper denied McC. But yes he is overdue for the AWs
Only an excellent reflex save by the Pharaohs keeper denied McC. But yes he is overdue for the AWs
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Nelfoos wrote:coochiee wrote:She's been quite public about being well settled in NZ with her special needs child. Maybe she does go, but it wouldn't surprise me to see her stay in NZ medium-term at least, while her partner is running the academy and their child is primary school aged - stability and autism go hand in hand.
Good point, but we know that her NZ sabbatical is all due to Dronegate.
The Ferns job would be a huge retrograde step from taking Canada to Olympics gold.
Short odds Priestman is off to coach in one of the top European leagues next. Being a Brit, you'd think the WSL.
I think there's probably room in the women's game still to share the Ferns/Nix jobs but I doubt NZF would be interested, there are Intl window clashes to consider. Still, clearly we need to do better than Mayne.
If Bev stays in NZ and NZ football ignore the chance to have her involved with the Ferns at whatever arrangement can be made they need to be all sacked.
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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ballane wrote:Nelfoos wrote:If Bev stays in NZ and NZ football ignore the chance to have her involved with the Ferns at whatever arrangement can be made they need to be all sacked.coochiee wrote:She's been quite public about being well settled in NZ with her special needs child. Maybe she does go, but it wouldn't surprise me to see her stay in NZ medium-term at least, while her partner is running the academy and their child is primary school aged - stability and autism go hand in hand.
Good point, but we know that her NZ sabbatical is all due to Dronegate.
The Ferns job would be a huge retrograde step from taking Canada to Olympics gold.
Short odds Priestman is off to coach in one of the top European leagues next. Being a Brit, you'd think the WSL.
I think there's probably room in the women's game still to share the Ferns/Nix jobs but I doubt NZF would be interested, there are Intl window clashes to consider. Still, clearly we need to do better than Mayne.
I think if a WSL team under performs and sacks their coach early days next season, surely she will be targeted.
Yes she is settled here and NZ Football should be actively getting her to coach the Ferns ASAP, but money does talk.
Yes she is settled here and NZ Football should be actively getting her to coach the Ferns ASAP, but money does talk.
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coochiee wrote:
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Wow. That tweet says it all. We were in a different ball game and needed reinforcements sooner.
Add in the crowd and ref and no wonder our defense looked tired.
Remember this was a team with Mo Salah, however off his best form he is.
Add in the crowd and ref and no wonder our defense looked tired.
Remember this was a team with Mo Salah, however off his best form he is.
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