All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams

All Whites vs Finland | Fri 27th March | 7:00pm (NZT) | Eden Park

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02 Mar 10:26 · edited 02 Mar 10:45 · History
AWs squad could be named late next week. I think AV has written expect a naming about 2 weeks before their first game on the 27th March verus Finland

This was the 24 man squad named last November (Colombia & Ecuador). 
Lots of withdrawls and then additions from the original team naming.

Nando Pijnaker, Ryan Thomas, Chris Wood, Tim Payne, Liberato Cacace, Alex Paulsen and Callum McCowatt were all either unavailable or withdrew from the initial selection.

OPP, McGarry, Randall, Tzanev and Tommy Smith were all added to the initial selection.

Think I have all the comings & goings correct, but might be an error in there.


Goalkeepers: Max Crocombe, Kees Sims, Nik Tzanev
Defenders: Francis de Vries,  James McGarry, Tyler Bindon, Michael Boxall, George Stanger, Finn Surman, Bill Tuiloma, Storm Roux, Tommy Smith
Midfielders: Joe Bell, Matt Garbett, Ben Old, Owen Parker-Price, Sarpreet Singh, Marko Stamenić, Alex Rufer
Forwards: Eli Just, Jesse Randall, Andre de Jong, Ben Waine, Kosta Barbarouses

The guys in
bold I think are at the most risk of being dropped/not selected, November to now.


Out - Singh
In - Paulsen, McCowatt, Payne
Possible Outs - Garbett, Tzanev, Stanger, Smith, OPP, ADJ
Possible Ins - Cacace, Nando Pijnaker, Henry Gray, Michael Woud, Callan Elliot, Lachlan Bayliss, and Moses Dyer - some others I can't think of
Unavailable -  Wood, Singh, Thomas?, Dalton Wilkins? Pijnaker?


Possible March 23 man squad
Goalkeepers: Crocombe, Paulsen, Tzanev
Defenders: de Vries, Cacace, Bindon, Boxall, Pijnaker, Surman, Tuiloma, Payne
Midfielders: Bell, Garbett, Old, Parker-Price, Bayliss, Stamenić, Rufer
Forwards: Just, Randall, Waine, Barbarouses and Mata


Singh and Wood are definitely not available. Thomas big question mark, he went off injured last night. Apparently he's been getting pain killing injections to play at Zwolle.
Garbett and Cacace likely not far off a return to play in the UK, but it maybe better they don't travel, and concentrate on having their bodies right for when the AWs go into World Cup camp.

I listened to Crocombe on the Ben Foster podcast recently, and Crocs said the 50-60 hour round trip to UK-NZ-UK is tough.
He can spend up to a day nearly in bed in NZ during a window, if the jet lag hits him hard. Window is a chance to look at different selection options like Old at LB, and Bayliss in midfield.

Sims (Swedish league to start after the March window) and Gray (Harrogate battling to survive in L2) may both stay in Europe.
So the 3rd keeper could be one of Tzanev or Woud. Experienced UK journeyman Tzanev more likely to be the perfect 3rd keeper setting up the cones, and offering Crocs and AP some coaching advice. It's basically his role now at Huddersfield it seems as 3rd/4th choice.

Bayliss deserves a crack ahead of ADJ. But both maybe picked if Thomas & Garbett are unavailable.

Pijnaker if over his groin injury, should come in for Stanger & Tommy Smith. Roux and Elliot may both miss out if otherwise CBs Bindon and Tuiloma are considered the best RB backups to Payne.

It might yet be that Bindon starts at RB in the World Cup. Honestly the AWs ain't strong enough to leave a quality Championship level player on the pine, at the big dance. He must be playing very well to keep his starting spot at The Blades.

 
Dyer is my smokey. I do wonder what would have happened if he had stayed with Galway in the LOI?
If he'd continued his hot goal scoring run there, he may just have forced Baze's hand. Mata got picked for the AWs for 1-2 years from the LOI.  But Cambodia is in reality just so far off the radar it's hard to assess his credentials.
02 Mar 18:57
surprised you haven't bolded Bill, his form must be causing some concern.

Queenslander 3x a year.

02 Mar 19:58
Piney was saying on the Football Fever podcast that he's heard that Woud might be in the squad for these March games
02 Mar 20:36
With the World Cup going to 26-man squads and this being the last named prior to the World Cup, will this squad also be 26? 
02 Mar 21:06 · edited 02 Mar 21:07 · History
theprof
surprised you haven't bolded Bill, his form must be causing some concern.

His position in a full strength AWs is now at RB not CB. I think he’s still ahead of Roux and Elliot as a RB

Tuiloma at the Nix is pretty much the same as Tuiloma at Charlotte. Prone to defensive errors but a goal threat at the other end, plus a very useful long switch pass. That’s why they had him mostly at RB
02 Mar 23:15
Wood and attacking midfielder Sarpreet Singh are set to miss those fixtures with injuries.

Left back Liberato Cacace and midfielders Matt Garbett and Ryan Thomas are other key figures under injury clouds at present.

Bazeley is set to name his squad the week beforehand.
03 Mar 00:59
I'd like to see LBS in the mix again
03 Mar 03:09
I think Woud has been in decent form and he’s playing regularly. Probably deserves the nod. Facing quality daily in training, tough corner routines and May, Randall and Brook shooting at him.

He’s currently the best kiwi keeper available in Australasia, given injuries etc. 

I haven’t seen the video, but we’ve had a few interesting keepers over the time with Utting and Batty and a few others. I need my keeper to make saves, not necessarily be the most balanced individual! All Whites are All Whites, not the segregated by clubs English teams of the 90s and 2000s. Let’s keep it that way from the beginning and not make the extra professionals an issue we don’t need.


03 Mar 03:47
durandurante
I'd like to see LBS in the mix again

He's the future, and a Phoenix player but he's done nothing this season to deserve an AWs callup.
03 Mar 04:05
coochiee
durandurante
I'd like to see LBS in the mix again

He's the future, and a Phoenix player but he's done nothing this season to deserve an AWs callup.

Totally agree. The raw talent is there imo but would be doing him a disservice by gifting him another AW cap. To my mind has not really developed anywhere as much as we were all hoping. Whether this is a function of the coaching and/or the environment only time will tell but he needs to be putting in more consistent performances with an end product to really kick on.
03 Mar 04:30
Yeah I think Bindon at right back is a great shout. Payne has been pretty poor this season. Maybe he can show he’s worthy to keep his spot under greeny but it’d take a lot for me to pick him a starter now. He’s been getting exposed at A League level and I can’t imagine what’d happen when he faces world class wingers.

Problem is it’s not Bindon’s best position by any stretch but I think we are just gonna have to make it work. He’s not one to get forward and beat a man or whip a quality ball in. But I’d rather sacrifice that than have someone who’s gonna be able to defend on the other end which is the priority.

Besides the right back position which has a question mark I think every other position is locked in.

Crocombe
Bindon/Payne, Surman, Boxall, Cacace
Bell, Stamenic
Thomas
Singh Wood Just.

Anyone differ?

coochiee
AWs squad could be named late next week. I think AV has written expect a naming about 2 weeks before their first game on the 27th March verus Finland

This was the 24 man squad named last November (Colombia & Ecuador). 
Lots of withdrawls and then additions from the original team naming.

Nando Pijnaker, Ryan Thomas, Chris Wood, Tim Payne, Liberato Cacace, Alex Paulsen and Callum McCowatt were all either unavailable or withdrew from the initial selection.

OPP, McGarry, Randall, Tzanev and Tommy Smith were all added to the initial selection.

Think I have all the comings & goings correct, but might be an error in there.


Goalkeepers: Max Crocombe, Kees Sims, Nik Tzanev
Defenders: Francis de Vries,  James McGarry, Tyler Bindon, Michael Boxall, George Stanger, Finn Surman, Bill Tuiloma, Storm Roux, Tommy Smith
Midfielders: Joe Bell, Matt Garbett, Ben Old, Owen Parker-Price, Sarpreet Singh, Marko Stamenić, Alex Rufer
Forwards: Eli Just, Jesse Randall, Andre de Jong, Ben Waine, Kosta Barbarouses

The guys in
bold I think are at the most risk of being dropped/not selected, November to now.


Out - Singh
In - Paulsen, McCowatt, Payne
Possible Outs - Garbett, Tzanev, Stanger, Smith, OPP, ADJ
Possible Ins - Cacace, Nando Pijnaker, Henry Gray, Michael Woud, Callan Elliot, Lachlan Bayliss, and Moses Dyer - some others I can't think of
Unavailable -  Wood, Singh, Thomas?, Dalton Wilkins? Pijnaker?


Possible March 23 man squad
Goalkeepers: Crocombe, Paulsen, Tzanev
Defenders: de Vries, Cacace, Bindon, Boxall, Pijnaker, Surman, Tuiloma, Payne
Midfielders: Bell, Garbett, Old, Parker-Price, Bayliss, Stamenić, Rufer
Forwards: Just, Randall, Waine, Barbarouses and Mata


Singh and Wood are definitely not available. Thomas big question mark, he went off injured last night. Apparently he's been getting pain killing injections to play at Zwolle.
Garbett and Cacace likely not far off a return to play in the UK, but it maybe better they don't travel, and concentrate on having their bodies right for when the AWs go into World Cup camp.

I listened to Crocombe on the Ben Foster podcast recently, and Crocs said the 50-60 hour round trip to UK-NZ-UK is tough.
He can spend up to a day nearly in bed in NZ during a window, if the jet lag hits him hard. Window is a chance to look at different selection options like Old at LB, and Bayliss in midfield.

Sims (Swedish league to start after the March window) and Gray (Harrogate battling to survive in L2) may both stay in Europe.
So the 3rd keeper could be one of Tzanev or Woud. Experienced UK journeyman Tzanev more likely to be the perfect 3rd keeper setting up the cones, and offering Crocs and AP some coaching advice. It's basically his role now at Huddersfield it seems as 3rd/4th choice.

Bayliss deserves a crack ahead of ADJ. But both maybe picked if Thomas & Garbett are unavailable.

Pijnaker if over his groin injury, should come in for Stanger & Tommy Smith. Roux and Elliot may both miss out if otherwise CBs Bindon and Tuiloma are considered the best RB backups to Payne.

It might yet be that Bindon starts at RB in the World Cup. Honestly the AWs ain't strong enough to leave a quality Championship level player on the pine, at the big dance. He must be playing very well to keep his starting spot at The Blades.

 
Dyer is my smokey. I do wonder what would have happened if he had stayed with Galway in the LOI?
If he'd continued his hot goal scoring run there, he may just have forced Baze's hand. Mata got picked for the AWs for 1-2 years from the LOI.  But Cambodia is in reality just so far off the radar it's hard to assess his credentials.
03 Mar 05:19
Might be a strategic consideration. Having a strong defender in reserve given injuries or late impact or the nature of tournament play might be a go. Wilkins is a LB? 

Payne/Elliot/Roux are a step below the CB and CMs. Tuiloma should be asking to play RB at the Nix. 


03 Mar 06:44 · edited 03 Mar 06:45 · History
Wilkins is primarily a LB, but can play on the right side.
Sadly he's just consistantly breaking down.

Can Libby play on the right?
It seems that Old is now making a great fist of it as a LB with St Etienne, and he has genuine pace.

It's the biggest negative with FDV at LB. Just fear that some of really pacey opposition players that are in the AWs pool, he will struggle to contain. His WC role should be to come off the pine if the AWs are chasing a goal, and bang in some crosses/dead balls to Wood.

But if Cacace could pay on the right, then with Old on the other flank, the AWs would have two genuinely quick full backs playing at a very decent level in Europe.

Of course that is all reliant on Libby himself being injury free. And yes agree Tuiloma should be asking for Nix mins at RB/RWB
03 Mar 11:56
If we're talking chance of Tyler Bindon as right back (pace possibly the only thing holding that back) to get our best players on...

Why not three at the back and wing backs? Libby was signed for such a position and could a Ben Old or Callum McCowatt do similar and a Boxall-Surman-Bindon work as a three at the back?
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03 Mar 11:56
If we're talking chance of Tyler Bindon as right back (pace possibly the only thing holding that back) to get our best players on...

Why not three at the back and wing backs? Libby was signed for such a position and could a Ben Old or Callum McCowatt do similar and a Boxall-Surman-Bindon work as a three at the back?
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03 Mar 12:09 · edited 03 Mar 12:12 · History
Bazeley seems pretty set on a 4-3-3, and apparently alot of that has been player driven.

Though I'm sure if the AWs are ever looking to protect a lead, or even hold onto a draw in the 2nd half of their pool games, Dazza will be tempted to throw on a 3rd CB.

Boxy slotted in between Bindon & Surman in the 82nd min of last year's 1-0 win over the Ivorians.
86 mins (1-1) against Norway and Bindon comes in alongside Finn and Michael.